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Old 10-18-2006, 07:30 PM   #681
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I owe a big, big thank you to this forum and specifically Ben_328ci for inspiring me to try to get this damage covered. With almost no fuss, BMW covered all but $213 of my repair. I am thrilled, as I was prepared to spend $1500.

I've learned that it can make a huge difference if you take your car in early. The body shop that did the work (subbed out by the dealer) told me that they repaired an M3 that had torn the sheet metal up to the area of the rear seats. That repair cost $10k+. I caught mine relatively quickly, and my repair was $3,200 (twice what my local independant wanted). I don't know, but would guess that BMW may be less willing to cover repairs on cars where the owner let it go for a long period of time and the damage is severe. I'm sure I was also helped by the fact that my wife and I just leased an X5--the fifth BMW we've owned.

I share everyone's frustration with this situation, but in my case BMW has stood behind their product, and expended 30%+ of the car's value to fix it, which I find pretty surprising. I love the car, and aside from this issue, it's been extremely trouble-free, and I continue to be a BMW fanatic. It was all I could do to leave the dealership without trying to find some way to finance a new 335.

Cheers,

Tim
Hi Tim,

I have also had this issue, you might see my past messages in this thread. Your failure is actually rather far along. An early failure looks like this:

http://www.pbase.com/cliffwarner/image/65939542/medium

There was no crack visable on the inboard side. My car was repaired by first knotching the crack, drillling the tip of the crack out and welding the crack shut. This was ground flat and then the Turner kit was put in. On failures such as in your car the broken metal first must be replaced, and only then can the Turner kit be applied. If you do not reinforce after repair, it will likely happen again. If you look at the other photos, the one labeled 12-02-04_1942 is not from my car. I was using that to make a point that the cracks always start on the outside of the mount and at the four spotwelds. All failures I have seen have the same crack pattern at the spotwelds.

Cliff

I am located in your area, outside of Philadelphia near West Chester.

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Old 10-18-2006, 08:00 PM   #682
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Updating the master list and the breakdown by year and model:
1999
323i: 9
328i: 19

2000
323i: 5
328i: 15
323Ci: 37
328Ci: 36

2001
325i: 1
330i: 0
325Ci: 0
330Ci: 2

2002
325i: 0
330i: 0
325Ci: 2
330Ci: 1
M3: 1

2003
M3: 1

1) 02bmw330ci - 2002 BMW 330Ci - Sub Frame / Diff mount Tears (9/12/04) 77,000 Miles
2) Cuore_alfa - 2000 BMW 323Ci - Cabrio Sub Frame (whit less than 20k miles)
3) Atrytone - 2000 BMW 328Ci - Sub Frame/Cracked 8/1/04 70,000Miles
4) Ps323ci - 2000 323ci - Sub Frame Damage (rear) - 23,000 Miles - 3/15/04
5) Mpower619 - 2000328Ci - Sub Frame Damage(left rear)-42,000 miles Oct/03
6) 3quarterI - 2001 BMW 325i - Sub Frame / Control Arm Bushing Tear - 57,000 miles
7) Tavy8010- 1999 BMW 328i- Sub Frame(Rear) / Diff. mounts torn - 70,000 miles (9/8/04)
8) bimmerchop - 2000 BMW 328i - Rear driver's side Sub Frame/ Diff. mounts torn - 25,000 miles
9) M3wannaBEE - 2000 323Ci - SubFrame - 80,000 miles
10) SharifM3- 2002 M3- Subframe ripping out of trunk -30,000 miles
11) dinane46328i- 1999 328i -subframe damage- 59,000
12) hoodust - 2000 323ci - subframe damage (fixed :reinforced) - 80,000
13) BLKMJK - 1999 328i - Subframe tear drivers side - 50,000 miles
14) sycE46 - 2000 323ci - subframe started to crack. Fixed by BMW 40,000 miles
15) Demsuga - 1999 BMW 328 i- Sub Frame Damage(left rear) - 63,000 miles (9/10/04)
16) HamannGirLR714 - 2000 328ci -subframe torn from trunk 44,500 miles
17) Asmodeus - 1999 BMW 328i- Sub Frame Rear / Diff. mounts torn - 125,000 Km
18) ///M PWR 00 - 2003 BMW M3 Coupe - Sub Frame / Diff mount Tears
19) Blazin e46 - 2000 323ci - subframe cracked - 51,000 miles (9/20/04)
20) Sir.B - 2000 328i - subframe cracked about a year ago ($600 fixed)
21) wolf328ci - 2000 328ci, Subframe torn in 2 points, 52,000 miles
22) kevmo - 1999 323i , subframe cracked 70 K
23) srcstc - 2000 BMW 323Ci - Left-rear SubFrame mount torn from trunk 08/03 55K miles, stock suspension!
24) Allen Yad - 1999 323i - subframe torn in both places, 42,000 miles
25) jtecnik- 2000 328ci - Rear driver's side Sub Frame/ Diff. mounts 77k miles
26) madmak - 1999 328i - 100,000km - both sides gaping tears - still on cpo warranty and dealer says "you should keep an eye on that!"
27) burrito007 - 323i 83000 mi subframe broke in 2003 trying to get dealer to fix but not looking promising
28) tommiexboi - 2000 328i - driver's side subframe ripping/tearing/cracking - 85,000 miles
29) yayopwr-1999 328i 95k miles- driver's side rear cracking....paying out of pocket in hopes that bmw will soon fess up and pay me back
30) ffabbroc - 2000 BMW 328Ci 50K chassis cracked at rear subframe mounts
31) Jetblast - 1999 328i - 100k drivers side rear subframe mount completely tore out
32) sbk25 - 1999 328i - 86k drivers side rear subframe mount tearing apart
33) sanjaypatelis - 2000 328i - 49k drivers/passenger side rear and differential mounts torn out/and almost torn out
34) Berserker - 2002 328i (April build) - Cracking has started on the drivers side - not a problem yet - but I am sure it will grow.
35) e46ryder-1999 323i 82k- Crackin tearing sticking out the drivers side passenger side no problem
36) blownZ71 - 2000 328Ci Subframe torn out left rear. Needs repair
37) rich323ci - 2000 323ci - 74,000 miles - Discovered cracks 2 weeks ago, waiting for dealer to inspect.
38) IslandE46 - 2000 323ci - 46,000 miles - Driver's side rear torn out. Passenger side fine. Repaired myself with Turner Motorsports kit. 7/10/2005
39) r6tanz - 2000 328CI - 65K - driver's side subframe cracked - repaired 2 days ago and still in the shop 7/22/05
40) bimmer88 2000 328ci - 75k miles -driver's side torn out
41) als00328ci 2000 328ci - 64000 km's - drivers side ripped right out.
42) 00e46 2000 328i - 83k miles - Drivers side cracked and torn.
43) DRG 2001 330ci 53k miles SUBFRAME
44) Mtecknic330ci- 2001 330ci- Minnesota- 85k- rear left subframe
45) Rick Chamberlain - 2000 328ci - 78k - Body failure at left rear subframe mount point.
46) Trippinbillies4 - 2000 328Ci - 105k - Torn back driver's side
47) jtt777- 2000 328Ci - 70k - Torn back driver's side subframe
48) hhboy77 - 2000 323ci - 58K - what else...torn driver's side rear subframe mount
49) 2K323CI - 2000 323ci - 47000 miles Driver's side rear torn out. Warranty expired by date not miles.
50) Kiapeyvan 2000 323Ci Cracked/torn subframe 84K, driver side.
51) norcal bmwboy - 2000 328ci - 59000 miles drivers side
52) Pizzaboy777 - 2000 323i - 77000 miles drivers side rear subframe mount
53) sanman10535 - 2000 323ci - 69,000 miles drivers side rear subframe
54) asarki- 2000 323ci - 76,000 miles drivers side rear subframe 11-15-05
55) bimmerkid1568 - 2000 BMW 328i - Left Rear Sub Frame / Diff mount Tears (date unknown when problem began) Todays date: November 21, 2005
56) jgrecbets - 1999 323i - 88,000 miles drivers side rear subframe
57) coreytrv - 2000 328 Ci - torn at 91,000
58) z00me - 2000 328Ci - at 120000km - subframe second time.This time BmW covers!
59) liminality - 2000 323i - 60,000 miles - torn and ripped back driver's side - Fully covered by BMWNA despite being out of warranty.
60) ed328ci - 2000 328Ci - 88,000 km (55K miles) - torn driver's side
61) bernstem - 2000 328i - 46,000 miles - drivers side torn
62) kinggrimwood- 1999 BMW 328i - Sub Frame/tore on both sides 09/2005 135,000 miles.
63) crackersmasher- 1999 BMW 323i - Sub Frame/tore 01/2006 95,000 miles.
64) bmer328i - 1999 BMW 328i - subframe tearing - 12/2005
65) Phil220241 - 1999 323 CI - 93,000 kms - subframe cracking -
66) noshow323 - 2000 323Ci - 105,000 miles - subframe cracked - 3/13/06
67) j willie - 2000 BMW 328i - Rear driver's side Sub Frame/ Diff. mount - floor cracked - 110,000 miles
68) mcstahl - 2000 BMW 328i - Rear driver's side subframe cracked - 107,000 miles
THIS IS WHERE I STARTED
69) blucaller - 2000 323 CI - 75K miles - driverside rear subframe carrier - will cost around $1500 w/ Turner rear subframe reinforcement, rear shock tower/rear swaybar/strut tower reinforcement and Turner/H&R sways too - 12/2005 (post#538)
70) manski - 2000 323Ci - 80k (post #166)
71) jj269ci - 2000 328Ci - rear drivers side subframe @ appx 51000 miles (post #180)
72) darkmanlfe - 1999 323i - 46,000 miles (post #252)
73) Das Mikro Bo***246;t - 2000 328ci - drivers side rear (post #262)
74) jkloese - 2002 325Ci (post #272)
75) andyh - 2000 BMW 328Ci - Subframe/diff mount tears - 148K miles! (post #282)
76) max123 - 1999 BMW 328I - Subframe damage/Diff mount drivers side(03/05/04) 65000K (post #287)
77) DallasE46 - 2000 BMW 323ci Certified Pre-Owned - Sub Frame (post #292)
78) 02bmwdinan330ci - 2002 325ci - 87k(high way milage) - Subframe tearing/damage (post #293)
79) tschmale - 2000 328Ci fixed at 70k miles, driver rear. (post #307)
80) M3Bmwcoupe - 99 328i - 80k miles (post #329)
81) BluE46 - 323i cracked subframe, drivers side, driveshaft mounts busted too - 54k miles (post #330)
82) miami323 - 323Ci - 72,000 miles (post #332)
83) All ON U - 323Ci (post #336)
84) superitr - 2000 BMW 323ci - rear diff mounts torn/sub-frame damage - 75k (post #339)
85) titomolotov-2000 bmw 328ci - subframe rear four deifferents areas torn (post #344)
86) doosk - 2000 323Ci (post # 347)
87) saiine - 2000 328i - 100k miles, rear subframe torn out on left side, right side cracked. (post #369)
88) sk3lly - 2000 328ci Had damage at 70,000mi rear left side. Fixed by BMWNA 12/2004 (post #371-372)
89) Shoomer - 99 323i - Sub Frame / Diff mount Tears (4/11/05) 89,000 Mi (post #377)
90) Shahshauhin - 1999 BMW 328i- Sub Frame(Rear) / Diff. mounts torn - 73,000 miles (post #407)
91) shortyz918 - 2000 328ci - 53k miles (post #417)
92) Wretchy - 2000 328ci - Sub Frame Damage (rear) - 34,000 Miles - 3/01/03 (post# 429)
93) m3-dude - 99 328i (post# 441)
94) nleksan - 328Ci (post #507)
95) Ian B - 1999 328i - 110,000 miles - subframe cracking - 02/2006 (post# 517)
96) Jake6172-2000 328Ci -101,000- subframe mount (rear/driver side) TORN!!! (post# 546)
97) Reno - 1999 328CI - currently 140,000Km - subframe damage was way back though, was fixed once then happend again (post# 549)
98) 323ciguy - 2000 323ci - 95K - Stock suspension - HUGE HOLE - See pic above (post# 551)
99) Hey-G - 2000 323i - 122,000kms - Stock Sport suspension - small tear (rear/driver side) (post# 552)
100) iseedipp - 2000 323ci - 80k - stock susp. (post# 554)
101) jw330ci - 323ci - 110k - torn the driver side (post# 559)
102) roo97ss - 2000 328ci - 5 spd - 50k - Driver rear. (post# 562)
103) ryanwhite74115 - 1999 328i, stock susp., 104k, driver and pass. rear (post# 565)
104) mjparky - 2000 323ci , 5speed manual. 90k rear drivers side beginning to tear on rear passenger (post# 566)
105) ck21084 - 323ci (post# 567)
106) speedcrazy1532 -2000 328 Ci- auto trans- 93000miles (post# 582)
107) hawk99 - 323ci (post# 587)
108) kimokeo - 2000 M-roadster 126,000 mi (post# 589)
109) e46m54325ci- 2002 325Ci Diff mount cracked and control arm bushings cracked and leaking- non-cpo at $1400 fixed yesterday, 33000 miles- a little early I thought, but maybe not (post# 590)
110) sexysilver - 2000 328ci - left rear subframe damage (fixed :reinforced) - 84,000 ($1800 fixed) (post# 591)
111) JToddK - 2000 328i, 120K Mi., drivers side (Left) rear subframe mount completely torn out, repair pending. (post# 592)
112) inspiritable1 - 2000 328i - 109k - 5 speed - Premium and Sports package - Drivers side rear - Will get an estimate tomorrow. (post# 595)
113) Doanut- 1999 323i -125 % speed. Premuim Sports... Dropped car of today for estimate (post# 596)
114) Reedo302 - Have seen two E46 328i's at my dealership in Minnesota with subframe damage in the rear. Both went to wholesale due to excessive cost of refurbishment. Both were 90k mile vehicles.
115)TBlueCoupe - 2000 BMW 328Ci - Sub-Frame fracture Left Rear 91,000 heard noise in rear around 60k
116) cwarner - 2000 328Ci - 65K miles stock sport suspension with 16" rims.
117) wrathchild819 - 2000 323i - 138k stock - differential/subframe mount cracked
118) recall-my-e46 - '0 323ci - 65k - subframe torn - going to the dealer to see if this can be covered - especially since in '05 they told me not to worry about it if I don't plan on keeping the car for more than 6 months
119) pangeum - 2000 BMW 328Ci - Sub Frame Cracked - 90,000 - 3/2006
120) JaysE46 2000 323ci Stock sport suspension 17" rims 80k Violent vibration in the rear differential
121) Ben_328ci - '00 328ci - 113k Stock - Driver's side mount torn. 100% repaired by BMWNA. 9/2006
122) falconflyr - 00 328i sport - 117k Stock - Drivers side rear diff mount torn, other mounts propogating rapidly. 9/2006
123) e30mpwrd - '00 323ci - 110k - Subframe tears. 9/2006 (post# 654)
124) Smoof15 - '00 323ci - 106k - Subframe tears. 9/2006 (post# 656)
125) blueballz - '00 323ci - 150k - Driver's side subframe mount torn. 7/2006
126) cvega01- 1999 BMW 323i- Sub Frame Rear driver side tore out entirely. @ 75,000 miles. Had it repaired on my own though, not cheap!!
127)tuckin19'skid - 2000 323ci rear mount failed Sept 2006, 34,000 miles
128)junrboy- 2000 323ci rear mount failed October 2006, 112K miles
129)Bimm - 2000 323CI stock! 68000mi failed 2006
130)Hobie24- 2000 BMW 328CI- Sub Frame(Rear)/ Diff. mounts Torn 80,000 miles 10/11/06
131)strictly180 - 328i October 2006
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Old 10-22-2006, 11:57 PM   #683
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2000-323i sub frame failure

I own a 2000-323i (90000 miles) with torn left rear subframe/differential mount.
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Old 10-23-2006, 09:14 PM   #684
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Updating the master list and the breakdown by year and model:
1999
323i: 9
328i: 19

2000
323i: 5
328i: 15
323Ci: 38
328Ci: 36

2001
325i: 1
330i: 0
325Ci: 0
330Ci: 2

2002
325i: 0
330i: 0
325Ci: 2
330Ci: 1
M3: 1

2003
M3: 1

1) 02bmw330ci - 2002 BMW 330Ci - Sub Frame / Diff mount Tears (9/12/04) 77,000 Miles
2) Cuore_alfa - 2000 BMW 323Ci - Cabrio Sub Frame (whit less than 20k miles)
3) Atrytone - 2000 BMW 328Ci - Sub Frame/Cracked 8/1/04 70,000Miles
4) Ps323ci - 2000 323ci - Sub Frame Damage (rear) - 23,000 Miles - 3/15/04
5) Mpower619 - 2000328Ci - Sub Frame Damage(left rear)-42,000 miles Oct/03
6) 3quarterI - 2001 BMW 325i - Sub Frame / Control Arm Bushing Tear - 57,000 miles
7) Tavy8010- 1999 BMW 328i- Sub Frame(Rear) / Diff. mounts torn - 70,000 miles (9/8/04)
8) bimmerchop - 2000 BMW 328i - Rear driver's side Sub Frame/ Diff. mounts torn - 25,000 miles
9) M3wannaBEE - 2000 323Ci - SubFrame - 80,000 miles
10) SharifM3- 2002 M3- Subframe ripping out of trunk -30,000 miles
11) dinane46328i- 1999 328i -subframe damage- 59,000
12) hoodust - 2000 323ci - subframe damage (fixed :reinforced) - 80,000
13) BLKMJK - 1999 328i - Subframe tear drivers side - 50,000 miles
14) sycE46 - 2000 323ci - subframe started to crack. Fixed by BMW 40,000 miles
15) Demsuga - 1999 BMW 328 i- Sub Frame Damage(left rear) - 63,000 miles (9/10/04)
16) HamannGirLR714 - 2000 328ci -subframe torn from trunk 44,500 miles
17) Asmodeus - 1999 BMW 328i- Sub Frame Rear / Diff. mounts torn - 125,000 Km
18) ///M PWR 00 - 2003 BMW M3 Coupe - Sub Frame / Diff mount Tears
19) Blazin e46 - 2000 323ci - subframe cracked - 51,000 miles (9/20/04)
20) Sir.B - 2000 328i - subframe cracked about a year ago ($600 fixed)
21) wolf328ci - 2000 328ci, Subframe torn in 2 points, 52,000 miles
22) kevmo - 1999 323i , subframe cracked 70 K
23) srcstc - 2000 BMW 323Ci - Left-rear SubFrame mount torn from trunk 08/03 55K miles, stock suspension!
24) Allen Yad - 1999 323i - subframe torn in both places, 42,000 miles
25) jtecnik- 2000 328ci - Rear driver's side Sub Frame/ Diff. mounts 77k miles
26) madmak - 1999 328i - 100,000km - both sides gaping tears - still on cpo warranty and dealer says "you should keep an eye on that!"
27) burrito007 - 323i 83000 mi subframe broke in 2003 trying to get dealer to fix but not looking promising
28) tommiexboi - 2000 328i - driver's side subframe ripping/tearing/cracking - 85,000 miles
29) yayopwr-1999 328i 95k miles- driver's side rear cracking....paying out of pocket in hopes that bmw will soon fess up and pay me back
30) ffabbroc - 2000 BMW 328Ci 50K chassis cracked at rear subframe mounts
31) Jetblast - 1999 328i - 100k drivers side rear subframe mount completely tore out
32) sbk25 - 1999 328i - 86k drivers side rear subframe mount tearing apart
33) sanjaypatelis - 2000 328i - 49k drivers/passenger side rear and differential mounts torn out/and almost torn out
34) Berserker - 2002 328i (April build) - Cracking has started on the drivers side - not a problem yet - but I am sure it will grow.
35) e46ryder-1999 323i 82k- Crackin tearing sticking out the drivers side passenger side no problem
36) blownZ71 - 2000 328Ci Subframe torn out left rear. Needs repair
37) rich323ci - 2000 323ci - 74,000 miles - Discovered cracks 2 weeks ago, waiting for dealer to inspect.
38) IslandE46 - 2000 323ci - 46,000 miles - Driver's side rear torn out. Passenger side fine. Repaired myself with Turner Motorsports kit. 7/10/2005
39) r6tanz - 2000 328CI - 65K - driver's side subframe cracked - repaired 2 days ago and still in the shop 7/22/05
40) bimmer88 2000 328ci - 75k miles -driver's side torn out
41) als00328ci 2000 328ci - 64000 km's - drivers side ripped right out.
42) 00e46 2000 328i - 83k miles - Drivers side cracked and torn.
43) DRG 2001 330ci 53k miles SUBFRAME
44) Mtecknic330ci- 2001 330ci- Minnesota- 85k- rear left subframe
45) Rick Chamberlain - 2000 328ci - 78k - Body failure at left rear subframe mount point.
46) Trippinbillies4 - 2000 328Ci - 105k - Torn back driver's side
47) jtt777- 2000 328Ci - 70k - Torn back driver's side subframe
48) hhboy77 - 2000 323ci - 58K - what else...torn driver's side rear subframe mount
49) 2K323CI - 2000 323ci - 47000 miles Driver's side rear torn out. Warranty expired by date not miles.
50) Kiapeyvan 2000 323Ci Cracked/torn subframe 84K, driver side.
51) norcal bmwboy - 2000 328ci - 59000 miles drivers side
52) Pizzaboy777 - 2000 323i - 77000 miles drivers side rear subframe mount
53) sanman10535 - 2000 323ci - 69,000 miles drivers side rear subframe
54) asarki- 2000 323ci - 76,000 miles drivers side rear subframe 11-15-05
55) bimmerkid1568 - 2000 BMW 328i - Left Rear Sub Frame / Diff mount Tears (date unknown when problem began) Todays date: November 21, 2005
56) jgrecbets - 1999 323i - 88,000 miles drivers side rear subframe
57) coreytrv - 2000 328 Ci - torn at 91,000
58) z00me - 2000 328Ci - at 120000km - subframe second time.This time BmW covers!
59) liminality - 2000 323i - 60,000 miles - torn and ripped back driver's side - Fully covered by BMWNA despite being out of warranty.
60) ed328ci - 2000 328Ci - 88,000 km (55K miles) - torn driver's side
61) bernstem - 2000 328i - 46,000 miles - drivers side torn
62) kinggrimwood- 1999 BMW 328i - Sub Frame/tore on both sides 09/2005 135,000 miles.
63) crackersmasher- 1999 BMW 323i - Sub Frame/tore 01/2006 95,000 miles.
64) bmer328i - 1999 BMW 328i - subframe tearing - 12/2005
65) Phil220241 - 1999 323 CI - 93,000 kms - subframe cracking -
66) noshow323 - 2000 323Ci - 105,000 miles - subframe cracked - 3/13/06
67) j willie - 2000 BMW 328i - Rear driver's side Sub Frame/ Diff. mount - floor cracked - 110,000 miles
68) mcstahl - 2000 BMW 328i - Rear driver's side subframe cracked - 107,000 miles
THIS IS WHERE I STARTED
69) blucaller - 2000 323 CI - 75K miles - driverside rear subframe carrier - will cost around $1500 w/ Turner rear subframe reinforcement, rear shock tower/rear swaybar/strut tower reinforcement and Turner/H&R sways too - 12/2005 (post#538)
70) manski - 2000 323Ci - 80k (post #166)
71) jj269ci - 2000 328Ci - rear drivers side subframe @ appx 51000 miles (post #180)
72) darkmanlfe - 1999 323i - 46,000 miles (post #252)
73) Das Mikro Bo***246;t - 2000 328ci - drivers side rear (post #262)
74) jkloese - 2002 325Ci (post #272)
75) andyh - 2000 BMW 328Ci - Subframe/diff mount tears - 148K miles! (post #282)
76) max123 - 1999 BMW 328I - Subframe damage/Diff mount drivers side(03/05/04) 65000K (post #287)
77) DallasE46 - 2000 BMW 323ci Certified Pre-Owned - Sub Frame (post #292)
78) 02bmwdinan330ci - 2002 325ci - 87k(high way milage) - Subframe tearing/damage (post #293)
79) tschmale - 2000 328Ci fixed at 70k miles, driver rear. (post #307)
80) M3Bmwcoupe - 99 328i - 80k miles (post #329)
81) BluE46 - 323i cracked subframe, drivers side, driveshaft mounts busted too - 54k miles (post #330)
82) miami323 - 323Ci - 72,000 miles (post #332)
83) All ON U - 323Ci (post #336)
84) superitr - 2000 BMW 323ci - rear diff mounts torn/sub-frame damage - 75k (post #339)
85) titomolotov-2000 bmw 328ci - subframe rear four deifferents areas torn (post #344)
86) doosk - 2000 323Ci (post # 347)
87) saiine - 2000 328i - 100k miles, rear subframe torn out on left side, right side cracked. (post #369)
88) sk3lly - 2000 328ci Had damage at 70,000mi rear left side. Fixed by BMWNA 12/2004 (post #371-372)
89) Shoomer - 99 323i - Sub Frame / Diff mount Tears (4/11/05) 89,000 Mi (post #377)
90) Shahshauhin - 1999 BMW 328i- Sub Frame(Rear) / Diff. mounts torn - 73,000 miles (post #407)
91) shortyz918 - 2000 328ci - 53k miles (post #417)
92) Wretchy - 2000 328ci - Sub Frame Damage (rear) - 34,000 Miles - 3/01/03 (post# 429)
93) m3-dude - 99 328i (post# 441)
94) nleksan - 328Ci (post #507)
95) Ian B - 1999 328i - 110,000 miles - subframe cracking - 02/2006 (post# 517)
96) Jake6172-2000 328Ci -101,000- subframe mount (rear/driver side) TORN!!! (post# 546)
97) Reno - 1999 328CI - currently 140,000Km - subframe damage was way back though, was fixed once then happend again (post# 549)
98) 323ciguy - 2000 323ci - 95K - Stock suspension - HUGE HOLE - See pic above (post# 551)
99) Hey-G - 2000 323i - 122,000kms - Stock Sport suspension - small tear (rear/driver side) (post# 552)
100) iseedipp - 2000 323ci - 80k - stock susp. (post# 554)
101) jw330ci - 323ci - 110k - torn the driver side (post# 559)
102) roo97ss - 2000 328ci - 5 spd - 50k - Driver rear. (post# 562)
103) ryanwhite74115 - 1999 328i, stock susp., 104k, driver and pass. rear (post# 565)
104) mjparky - 2000 323ci , 5speed manual. 90k rear drivers side beginning to tear on rear passenger (post# 566)
105) ck21084 - 323ci (post# 567)
106) speedcrazy1532 -2000 328 Ci- auto trans- 93000miles (post# 582)
107) hawk99 - 323ci (post# 587)
108) kimokeo - 2000 M-roadster 126,000 mi (post# 589)
109) e46m54325ci- 2002 325Ci Diff mount cracked and control arm bushings cracked and leaking- non-cpo at $1400 fixed yesterday, 33000 miles- a little early I thought, but maybe not (post# 590)
110) sexysilver - 2000 328ci - left rear subframe damage (fixed :reinforced) - 84,000 ($1800 fixed) (post# 591)
111) JToddK - 2000 328i, 120K Mi., drivers side (Left) rear subframe mount completely torn out, repair pending. (post# 592)
112) inspiritable1 - 2000 328i - 109k - 5 speed - Premium and Sports package - Drivers side rear - Will get an estimate tomorrow. (post# 595)
113) Doanut- 1999 323i -125 % speed. Premuim Sports... Dropped car of today for estimate (post# 596)
114) Reedo302 - Have seen two E46 328i's at my dealership in Minnesota with subframe damage in the rear. Both went to wholesale due to excessive cost of refurbishment. Both were 90k mile vehicles.
115)TBlueCoupe - 2000 BMW 328Ci - Sub-Frame fracture Left Rear 91,000 heard noise in rear around 60k
116) cwarner - 2000 328Ci - 65K miles stock sport suspension with 16" rims.
117) wrathchild819 - 2000 323i - 138k stock - differential/subframe mount cracked
118) recall-my-e46 - '0 323ci - 65k - subframe torn - going to the dealer to see if this can be covered - especially since in '05 they told me not to worry about it if I don't plan on keeping the car for more than 6 months
119) pangeum - 2000 BMW 328Ci - Sub Frame Cracked - 90,000 - 3/2006
120) JaysE46 2000 323ci Stock sport suspension 17" rims 80k Violent vibration in the rear differential
121) Ben_328ci - '00 328ci - 113k Stock - Driver's side mount torn. 100% repaired by BMWNA. 9/2006
122) falconflyr - 00 328i sport - 117k Stock - Drivers side rear diff mount torn, other mounts propogating rapidly. 9/2006
123) e30mpwrd - '00 323ci - 110k - Subframe tears. 9/2006 (post# 654)
124) Smoof15 - '00 323ci - 106k - Subframe tears. 9/2006 (post# 656)
125) blueballz - '00 323ci - 150k - Driver's side subframe mount torn. 7/2006
126) cvega01- 1999 BMW 323i- Sub Frame Rear driver side tore out entirely. @ 75,000 miles. Had it repaired on my own though, not cheap!!
127)tuckin19'skid - 2000 323ci rear mount failed Sept 2006, 34,000 miles
128)junrboy- 2000 323ci rear mount failed October 2006, 112K miles
129)Bimm - 2000 323CI stock! 68000mi failed 2006
130)Hobie24- 2000 BMW 328CI- Sub Frame(Rear)/ Diff. mounts Torn 80,000 miles 10/11/06
131)strictly180 - 328i October 2006
132)Eurobim - 2000 323CI - Subframe tear (driver's rear) 156,000kms
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Old 10-26-2006, 01:15 PM   #686
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for those of you who had it covered by BMWNA what all did you have to do or tell them? I just spoke to them and they said they hadnt heard of the issue before and that the only way it would be covered is MAYBE under good will.
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Old 10-26-2006, 01:29 PM   #687
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Sorry, I haven't been around for a couple weeks. I just moved and don't really have internet connectivity yet.

Looks like e30mpwrd had the same luck with this as I did. Maybe more will come forward and BMWNA will actually address this properly.

My I got my car back about 2-3 weeks ago and all is good. It is 100% fixed, they put a brand new floor pan piece in, as stated, and I can definitly tell visually, and by driving the car. It seems a little less "wallowy" in the corners and has a little harsher (sportier) ride, and that's what I like.

Looks like the list has been growing. I'm starting to wonder what percentage of 2000 3ers are actually affected, might be a lot more than we can imagine. All of you with affected subframes should really consider giving BMWNA a call. If they get enough calls they might actually think about doing something to render this situation, even if they don't cover your car now, they would if they decided that the complaints had amounted enough to necessitate a recall or service bulletin.
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Old 10-26-2006, 01:35 PM   #688
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I owe a big, big thank you to this forum and specifically Ben_328ci for inspiring me to try to get this damage covered. With almost no fuss, BMW covered all but $213 of my repair. I am thrilled, as I was prepared to spend $1500.

I've learned that it can make a huge difference if you take your car in early. The body shop that did the work (subbed out by the dealer) told me that they repaired an M3 that had torn the sheet metal up to the area of the rear seats. That repair cost $10k+. I caught mine relatively quickly, and my repair was $3,200 (twice what my local independant wanted). I don't know, but would guess that BMW may be less willing to cover repairs on cars where the owner let it go for a long period of time and the damage is severe. I'm sure I was also helped by the fact that my wife and I just leased an X5--the fifth BMW we've owned.

I share everyone's frustration with this situation, but in my case BMW has stood behind their product, and expended 30%+ of the car's value to fix it, which I find pretty surprising. I love the car, and aside from this issue, it's been extremely trouble-free, and I continue to be a BMW fanatic. It was all I could do to leave the dealership without trying to find some way to finance a new 335.

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You're very welcome, I'm glad that I contributed to getting this resolved for you.

Now you can trade it in without frame damage and drive away in that 335i!

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i'm suprised they havent got any lawsuits regarding this issue that would make them decide to put out a recall. If this fails while someone is driving and causes a serious accident bmw would be forking over some serious money.
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Old 10-27-2006, 08:30 AM   #690
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I think that might be the problem. No one has actually been injured over here because of this issue.
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[QUOTE=02BMW330ci;1950652]1) 02bmw330ci - 2002 BMW 330Ci - Sub Frame / Diff mount Tears (9/12/04)
2) Cuore_alfa - 2000 BMW 323Ci - Cabrio Sub Frame (whit less than 20k miles)
3) Atrytone - 2000 BMW 328Ci - Sub Frame/Cracked 8/1/04 70,000Miles
4) Ps323ci - 2000 323ci - Sub Frame Damage (rear) - 23,000 Miles - 3/15/04
5) Mpower619 - 2000328Ci - Sub Frame Damage(left rear)-42,000 miles Oct/03
6) 3quarterI - 2001 BMW 325i - Sub Frame / Control Arm Bushing Tear - 57,000 miles
7 )Tavy8010- 1999 BMW 328i- Sub Frame(Rear) / Diff. mounts torn --- 70,000 miles (9/8/04)
8) bimmerchop _____________________________________________
9) andrew10222- 1999 BMW 323 ci Sub Frame(left/rear torn ) 109000 miles 31/10/06
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i recieved word yesterday that they are going to cover it.
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Old 11-01-2006, 08:05 PM   #693
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Regional guy inspected my car over a week ago still haven't heard anything.
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Old 11-02-2006, 04:06 PM   #694
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Bmuu328i - 1999 328i - 125,000 miles - Drivers side rear subframe cracks reported (11/06)-

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Old 11-02-2006, 04:13 PM   #695
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wish i would have checked consumer reports before buying this car. they have nothing good to say about them or even bmw for the most part.
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Old 11-03-2006, 12:47 AM   #696
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i recieved word yesterday that they are going to cover it.
I just recently tore my subframe and in the process of getting it fixed. Do you have aftermarket suspension, or are you riding stock? Cuz i have a meeting for BMWNA to come out to my local BMW shop in a few days to look at it to decide whether they will cover it or not. The thing is I have all new Bilstein supsension, so i dont know if they will cover the costs...
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Old 11-03-2006, 05:32 AM   #697
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fukkk u bmw and ya fukin mother and u fukin germans. german engineering can suk my dick, most ovarated phrase ive eva heard. yet anotha victim of the subframe crack. I invested soo much tiem adn money into my baby for nothing. I am sooo depressed and sad right now thart words canot even explain...

To all u who have a 2000 model yr car, ur car willl eventually have this pronblem make no mistake about it. Its only a matta of time.







1) 02bmw330ci - 2002 BMW 330Ci - Sub Frame / Diff mount Tears (9/12/04) 77,000 Miles
2) Cuore_alfa - 2000 BMW 323Ci - Cabrio Sub Frame (whit less than 20k miles)
3) Atrytone - 2000 BMW 328Ci - Sub Frame/Cracked 8/1/04 70,000Miles
4) Ps323ci - 2000 323ci - Sub Frame Damage (rear) - 23,000 Miles - 3/15/04
5) Mpower619 - 2000328Ci - Sub Frame Damage(left rear)-42,000 miles Oct/03
6) 3quarterI - 2001 BMW 325i - Sub Frame / Control Arm Bushing Tear - 57,000 miles
7) Tavy8010- 1999 BMW 328i- Sub Frame(Rear) / Diff. mounts torn - 70,000 miles (9/8/04)
8) bimmerchop - 2000 BMW 328i - Rear driver's side Sub Frame/ Diff. mounts torn - 25,000 miles
9) M3wannaBEE - 2000 323Ci - SubFrame - 80,000 miles
10) SharifM3- 2002 M3- Subframe ripping out of trunk -30,000 miles
11) dinane46328i- 1999 328i -subframe damage- 59,000
12) hoodust - 2000 323ci - subframe damage (fixed :reinforced) - 80,000
13) BLKMJK - 1999 328i - Subframe tear drivers side - 50,000 miles
14) sycE46 - 2000 323ci - subframe started to crack. Fixed by BMW 40,000 miles
15) Demsuga - 1999 BMW 328 i- Sub Frame Damage(left rear) - 63,000 miles (9/10/04)
16) HamannGirLR714 - 2000 328ci -subframe torn from trunk 44,500 miles
17) Asmodeus - 1999 BMW 328i- Sub Frame Rear / Diff. mounts torn - 125,000 Km
18) ///M PWR 00 - 2003 BMW M3 Coupe - Sub Frame / Diff mount Tears
19) Blazin e46 - 2000 323ci - subframe cracked - 51,000 miles (9/20/04)
20) Sir.B - 2000 328i - subframe cracked about a year ago ($600 fixed)
21) wolf328ci - 2000 328ci, Subframe torn in 2 points, 52,000 miles
22) kevmo - 1999 323i , subframe cracked 70 K
23) srcstc - 2000 BMW 323Ci - Left-rear SubFrame mount torn from trunk 08/03 55K miles, stock suspension!
24) Allen Yad - 1999 323i - subframe torn in both places, 42,000 miles
25) jtecnik- 2000 328ci - Rear driver's side Sub Frame/ Diff. mounts 77k miles
26) madmak - 1999 328i - 100,000km - both sides gaping tears - still on cpo warranty and dealer says "you should keep an eye on that!"
27) burrito007 - 323i 83000 mi subframe broke in 2003 trying to get dealer to fix but not looking promising
28) tommiexboi - 2000 328i - driver's side subframe ripping/tearing/cracking - 85,000 miles
29) yayopwr-1999 328i 95k miles- driver's side rear cracking....paying out of pocket in hopes that bmw will soon fess up and pay me back
30) ffabbroc - 2000 BMW 328Ci 50K chassis cracked at rear subframe mounts
31) Jetblast - 1999 328i - 100k drivers side rear subframe mount completely tore out
32) sbk25 - 1999 328i - 86k drivers side rear subframe mount tearing apart
33) sanjaypatelis - 2000 328i - 49k drivers/passenger side rear and differential mounts torn out/and almost torn out
34) Berserker - 2002 328i (April build) - Cracking has started on the drivers side - not a problem yet - but I am sure it will grow.
35) e46ryder-1999 323i 82k- Crackin tearing sticking out the drivers side passenger side no problem
36) blownZ71 - 2000 328Ci Subframe torn out left rear. Needs repair
37) rich323ci - 2000 323ci - 74,000 miles - Discovered cracks 2 weeks ago, waiting for dealer to inspect.
38) IslandE46 - 2000 323ci - 46,000 miles - Driver's side rear torn out. Passenger side fine. Repaired myself with Turner Motorsports kit. 7/10/2005
39) r6tanz - 2000 328CI - 65K - driver's side subframe cracked - repaired 2 days ago and still in the shop 7/22/05
40) bimmer88 2000 328ci - 75k miles -driver's side torn out
41) als00328ci 2000 328ci - 64000 km's - drivers side ripped right out.
42) 00e46 2000 328i - 83k miles - Drivers side cracked and torn.
43) DRG 2001 330ci 53k miles SUBFRAME
44) Mtecknic330ci- 2001 330ci- Minnesota- 85k- rear left subframe
45) Rick Chamberlain - 2000 328ci - 78k - Body failure at left rear subframe mount point.
46) Trippinbillies4 - 2000 328Ci - 105k - Torn back driver's side
47) jtt777- 2000 328Ci - 70k - Torn back driver's side subframe
48) hhboy77 - 2000 323ci - 58K - what else...torn driver's side rear subframe mount
49) 2K323CI - 2000 323ci - 47000 miles Driver's side rear torn out. Warranty expired by date not miles.
50) Kiapeyvan 2000 323Ci Cracked/torn subframe 84K, driver side.
51) norcal bmwboy - 2000 328ci - 59000 miles drivers side
52) Pizzaboy777 - 2000 323i - 77000 miles drivers side rear subframe mount
53) sanman10535 - 2000 323ci - 69,000 miles drivers side rear subframe
54) asarki- 2000 323ci - 76,000 miles drivers side rear subframe 11-15-05
55) bimmerkid1568 - 2000 BMW 328i - Left Rear Sub Frame / Diff mount Tears (date unknown when problem began) Todays date: November 21, 2005
56) jgrecbets - 1999 323i - 88,000 miles drivers side rear subframe
57) coreytrv - 2000 328 Ci - torn at 91,000
58) z00me - 2000 328Ci - at 120000km - subframe second time.This time BmW covers!
59) liminality - 2000 323i - 60,000 miles - torn and ripped back driver's side - Fully covered by BMWNA despite being out of warranty.
60) ed328ci - 2000 328Ci - 88,000 km (55K miles) - torn driver's side
61) bernstem - 2000 328i - 46,000 miles - drivers side torn
62) kinggrimwood- 1999 BMW 328i - Sub Frame/tore on both sides 09/2005 135,000 miles.
63) crackersmasher- 1999 BMW 323i - Sub Frame/tore 01/2006 95,000 miles.
64) bmer328i - 1999 BMW 328i - subframe tearing - 12/2005
65) Phil220241 - 1999 323 CI - 93,000 kms - subframe cracking -
66) noshow323 - 2000 323Ci - 105,000 miles - subframe cracked - 3/13/06
67) j willie - 2000 BMW 328i - Rear driver's side Sub Frame/ Diff. mount - floor cracked - 110,000 miles
68) mcstahl - 2000 BMW 328i - Rear driver's side subframe cracked - 107,000 miles
THIS IS WHERE I STARTED
69) blucaller - 2000 323 CI - 75K miles - driverside rear subframe carrier - will cost around $1500 w/ Turner rear subframe reinforcement, rear shock tower/rear swaybar/strut tower reinforcement and Turner/H&R sways too - 12/2005 (post#538)
70) manski - 2000 323Ci - 80k (post #166)
71) jj269ci - 2000 328Ci - rear drivers side subframe @ appx 51000 miles (post #180)
72) darkmanlfe - 1999 323i - 46,000 miles (post #252)
73) Das Mikro Bo***246;t - 2000 328ci - drivers side rear (post #262)
74) jkloese - 2002 325Ci (post #272)
75) andyh - 2000 BMW 328Ci - Subframe/diff mount tears - 148K miles! (post #282)
76) max123 - 1999 BMW 328I - Subframe damage/Diff mount drivers side(03/05/04) 65000K (post #287)
77) DallasE46 - 2000 BMW 323ci Certified Pre-Owned - Sub Frame (post #292)
78) 02bmwdinan330ci - 2002 325ci - 87k(high way milage) - Subframe tearing/damage (post #293)
79) tschmale - 2000 328Ci fixed at 70k miles, driver rear. (post #307)
80) M3Bmwcoupe - 99 328i - 80k miles (post #329)
81) BluE46 - 323i cracked subframe, drivers side, driveshaft mounts busted too - 54k miles (post #330)
82) miami323 - 323Ci - 72,000 miles (post #332)
83) All ON U - 323Ci (post #336)
84) superitr - 2000 BMW 323ci - rear diff mounts torn/sub-frame damage - 75k (post #339)
85) titomolotov-2000 bmw 328ci - subframe rear four deifferents areas torn (post #344)
86) doosk - 2000 323Ci (post # 347)
87) saiine - 2000 328i - 100k miles, rear subframe torn out on left side, right side cracked. (post #369)
88) sk3lly - 2000 328ci Had damage at 70,000mi rear left side. Fixed by BMWNA 12/2004 (post #371-372)
89) Shoomer - 99 323i - Sub Frame / Diff mount Tears (4/11/05) 89,000 Mi (post #377)
90) Shahshauhin - 1999 BMW 328i- Sub Frame(Rear) / Diff. mounts torn - 73,000 miles (post #407)
91) shortyz918 - 2000 328ci - 53k miles (post #417)
92) Wretchy - 2000 328ci - Sub Frame Damage (rear) - 34,000 Miles - 3/01/03 (post# 429)
93) m3-dude - 99 328i (post# 441)
94) nleksan - 328Ci (post #507)
95) Ian B - 1999 328i - 110,000 miles - subframe cracking - 02/2006 (post# 517)
96) Jake6172-2000 328Ci -101,000- subframe mount (rear/driver side) TORN!!! (post# 546)
97) Reno - 1999 328CI - currently 140,000Km - subframe damage was way back though, was fixed once then happend again (post# 549)
98) 323ciguy - 2000 323ci - 95K - Stock suspension - HUGE HOLE - See pic above (post# 551)
99) Hey-G - 2000 323i - 122,000kms - Stock Sport suspension - small tear (rear/driver side) (post# 552)
100) iseedipp - 2000 323ci - 80k - stock susp. (post# 554)
101) jw330ci - 323ci - 110k - torn the driver side (post# 559)
102) roo97ss - 2000 328ci - 5 spd - 50k - Driver rear. (post# 562)
103) ryanwhite74115 - 1999 328i, stock susp., 104k, driver and pass. rear (post# 565)
104) mjparky - 2000 323ci , 5speed manual. 90k rear drivers side beginning to tear on rear passenger (post# 566)
105) ck21084 - 323ci (post# 567)
106) speedcrazy1532 -2000 328 Ci- auto trans- 93000miles (post# 582)
107) hawk99 - 323ci (post# 587)
108) kimokeo - 2000 M-roadster 126,000 mi (post# 589)
109) e46m54325ci- 2002 325Ci Diff mount cracked and control arm bushings cracked and leaking- non-cpo at $1400 fixed yesterday, 33000 miles- a little early I thought, but maybe not (post# 590)
110) sexysilver - 2000 328ci - left rear subframe damage (fixed :reinforced) - 84,000 ($1800 fixed) (post# 591)
111) JToddK - 2000 328i, 120K Mi., drivers side (Left) rear subframe mount completely torn out, repair pending. (post# 592)
112) inspiritable1 - 2000 328i - 109k - 5 speed - Premium and Sports package - Drivers side rear - Will get an estimate tomorrow. (post# 595)
113) Doanut- 1999 323i -125 % speed. Premuim Sports... Dropped car of today for estimate (post# 596)
114) Reedo302 - Have seen two E46 328i's at my dealership in Minnesota with subframe damage in the rear. Both went to wholesale due to excessive cost of refurbishment. Both were 90k mile vehicles.
115)TBlueCoupe - 2000 BMW 328Ci - Sub-Frame fracture Left Rear 91,000 heard noise in rear around 60k
116) cwarner - 2000 328Ci - 65K miles stock sport suspension with 16" rims.
117) wrathchild819 - 2000 323i - 138k stock - differential/subframe mount cracked
118) recall-my-e46 - '0 323ci - 65k - subframe torn - going to the dealer to see if this can be covered - especially since in '05 they told me not to worry about it if I don't plan on keeping the car for more than 6 months
119) pangeum - 2000 BMW 328Ci - Sub Frame Cracked - 90,000 - 3/2006
120) JaysE46 2000 323ci Stock sport suspension 17" rims 80k Violent vibration in the rear differential
121) Ben_328ci - '00 328ci - 113k Stock - Driver's side mount torn. 100% repaired by BMWNA. 9/2006
122) falconflyr - 00 328i sport - 117k Stock - Drivers side rear diff mount torn, other mounts propogating rapidly. 9/2006
123) e30mpwrd - '00 323ci - 110k - Subframe tears. 9/2006 (post# 654)
124) Smoof15 - '00 323ci - 106k - Subframe tears. 9/2006 (post# 656)
125) blueballz - '00 323ci - 150k - Driver's side subframe mount torn. 7/2006
126) cvega01- 1999 BMW 323i- Sub Frame Rear driver side tore out entirely. @ 75,000 miles. Had it repaired on my own though, not cheap!!
127)tuckin19'skid - 2000 323ci rear mount failed Sept 2006, 34,000 miles
128)junrboy- 2000 323ci rear mount failed October 2006, 112K miles
129)Bimm - 2000 323CI stock! 68000mi failed 2006
130)Hobie24- 2000 BMW 328CI- Sub Frame(Rear)/ Diff. mounts Torn 80,000 miles 10/11/06
131)strictly180 - 328i October 2006
132)Eurobim - 2000 323CI - Subframe tear (driver's rear) 156,000kms
133)Beckham007 2000 323ci 60kmiles (subframe torn/crackin
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1) 02bmw330ci - 2002 BMW 330Ci - Sub Frame / Diff mount Tears (9/12/04) 77,000 Miles
2) Cuore_alfa - 2000 BMW 323Ci - Cabrio Sub Frame (whit less than 20k miles)
3) Atrytone - 2000 BMW 328Ci - Sub Frame/Cracked 8/1/04 70,000Miles
4) Ps323ci - 2000 323ci - Sub Frame Damage (rear) - 23,000 Miles - 3/15/04
5) Mpower619 - 2000328Ci - Sub Frame Damage(left rear)-42,000 miles Oct/03
6) 3quarterI - 2001 BMW 325i - Sub Frame / Control Arm Bushing Tear - 57,000 miles
7) Tavy8010- 1999 BMW 328i- Sub Frame(Rear) / Diff. mounts torn - 70,000 miles (9/8/04)
8) bimmerchop - 2000 BMW 328i - Rear driver's side Sub Frame/ Diff. mounts torn - 25,000 miles
9) M3wannaBEE - 2000 323Ci - SubFrame - 80,000 miles
10) SharifM3- 2002 M3- Subframe ripping out of trunk -30,000 miles
11) dinane46328i- 1999 328i -subframe damage- 59,000
12) hoodust - 2000 323ci - subframe damage (fixed :reinforced) - 80,000
13) BLKMJK - 1999 328i - Subframe tear drivers side - 50,000 miles
14) sycE46 - 2000 323ci - subframe started to crack. Fixed by BMW 40,000 miles
15) Demsuga - 1999 BMW 328 i- Sub Frame Damage(left rear) - 63,000 miles (9/10/04)
16) HamannGirLR714 - 2000 328ci -subframe torn from trunk 44,500 miles
17) Asmodeus - 1999 BMW 328i- Sub Frame Rear / Diff. mounts torn - 125,000 Km
18) ///M PWR 00 - 2003 BMW M3 Coupe - Sub Frame / Diff mount Tears
19) Blazin e46 - 2000 323ci - subframe cracked - 51,000 miles (9/20/04)
20) Sir.B - 2000 328i - subframe cracked about a year ago ($600 fixed)
21) wolf328ci - 2000 328ci, Subframe torn in 2 points, 52,000 miles
22) kevmo - 1999 323i , subframe cracked 70 K
23) srcstc - 2000 BMW 323Ci - Left-rear SubFrame mount torn from trunk 08/03 55K miles, stock suspension!
24) Allen Yad - 1999 323i - subframe torn in both places, 42,000 miles
25) jtecnik- 2000 328ci - Rear driver's side Sub Frame/ Diff. mounts 77k miles
26) madmak - 1999 328i - 100,000km - both sides gaping tears - still on cpo warranty and dealer says "you should keep an eye on that!"
27) burrito007 - 323i 83000 mi subframe broke in 2003 trying to get dealer to fix but not looking promising
28) tommiexboi - 2000 328i - driver's side subframe ripping/tearing/cracking - 85,000 miles
29) yayopwr-1999 328i 95k miles- driver's side rear cracking....paying out of pocket in hopes that bmw will soon fess up and pay me back
30) ffabbroc - 2000 BMW 328Ci 50K chassis cracked at rear subframe mounts
31) Jetblast - 1999 328i - 100k drivers side rear subframe mount completely tore out
32) sbk25 - 1999 328i - 86k drivers side rear subframe mount tearing apart
33) sanjaypatelis - 2000 328i - 49k drivers/passenger side rear and differential mounts torn out/and almost torn out
34) Berserker - 2002 328i (April build) - Cracking has started on the drivers side - not a problem yet - but I am sure it will grow.
35) e46ryder-1999 323i 82k- Crackin tearing sticking out the drivers side passenger side no problem
36) blownZ71 - 2000 328Ci Subframe torn out left rear. Needs repair
37) rich323ci - 2000 323ci - 74,000 miles - Discovered cracks 2 weeks ago, waiting for dealer to inspect.
38) IslandE46 - 2000 323ci - 46,000 miles - Driver's side rear torn out. Passenger side fine. Repaired myself with Turner Motorsports kit. 7/10/2005
39) r6tanz - 2000 328CI - 65K - driver's side subframe cracked - repaired 2 days ago and still in the shop 7/22/05
40) bimmer88 2000 328ci - 75k miles -driver's side torn out
41) als00328ci 2000 328ci - 64000 km's - drivers side ripped right out.
42) 00e46 2000 328i - 83k miles - Drivers side cracked and torn.
43) DRG 2001 330ci 53k miles SUBFRAME
44) Mtecknic330ci- 2001 330ci- Minnesota- 85k- rear left subframe
45) Rick Chamberlain - 2000 328ci - 78k - Body failure at left rear subframe mount point.
46) Trippinbillies4 - 2000 328Ci - 105k - Torn back driver's side
47) jtt777- 2000 328Ci - 70k - Torn back driver's side subframe
48) hhboy77 - 2000 323ci - 58K - what else...torn driver's side rear subframe mount
49) 2K323CI - 2000 323ci - 47000 miles Driver's side rear torn out. Warranty expired by date not miles.
50) Kiapeyvan 2000 323Ci Cracked/torn subframe 84K, driver side.
51) norcal bmwboy - 2000 328ci - 59000 miles drivers side
52) Pizzaboy777 - 2000 323i - 77000 miles drivers side rear subframe mount
53) sanman10535 - 2000 323ci - 69,000 miles drivers side rear subframe
54) asarki- 2000 323ci - 76,000 miles drivers side rear subframe 11-15-05
55) bimmerkid1568 - 2000 BMW 328i - Left Rear Sub Frame / Diff mount Tears (date unknown when problem began) Todays date: November 21, 2005
56) jgrecbets - 1999 323i - 88,000 miles drivers side rear subframe
57) coreytrv - 2000 328 Ci - torn at 91,000
58) z00me - 2000 328Ci - at 120000km - subframe second time.This time BmW covers!
59) liminality - 2000 323i - 60,000 miles - torn and ripped back driver's side - Fully covered by BMWNA despite being out of warranty.
60) ed328ci - 2000 328Ci - 88,000 km (55K miles) - torn driver's side
61) bernstem - 2000 328i - 46,000 miles - drivers side torn
62) kinggrimwood- 1999 BMW 328i - Sub Frame/tore on both sides 09/2005 135,000 miles.
63) crackersmasher- 1999 BMW 323i - Sub Frame/tore 01/2006 95,000 miles.
64) bmer328i - 1999 BMW 328i - subframe tearing - 12/2005
65) Phil220241 - 1999 323 CI - 93,000 kms - subframe cracking -
66) noshow323 - 2000 323Ci - 105,000 miles - subframe cracked - 3/13/06
67) j willie - 2000 BMW 328i - Rear driver's side Sub Frame/ Diff. mount - floor cracked - 110,000 miles
68) mcstahl - 2000 BMW 328i - Rear driver's side subframe cracked - 107,000 miles
THIS IS WHERE I STARTED
69) blucaller - 2000 323 CI - 75K miles - driverside rear subframe carrier - will cost around $1500 w/ Turner rear subframe reinforcement, rear shock tower/rear swaybar/strut tower reinforcement and Turner/H&R sways too - 12/2005 (post#538)
70) manski - 2000 323Ci - 80k (post #166)
71) jj269ci - 2000 328Ci - rear drivers side subframe @ appx 51000 miles (post #180)
72) darkmanlfe - 1999 323i - 46,000 miles (post #252)
73) Das Mikro Bo***246;t - 2000 328ci - drivers side rear (post #262)
74) jkloese - 2002 325Ci (post #272)
75) andyh - 2000 BMW 328Ci - Subframe/diff mount tears - 148K miles! (post #282)
76) max123 - 1999 BMW 328I - Subframe damage/Diff mount drivers side(03/05/04) 65000K (post #287)
77) DallasE46 - 2000 BMW 323ci Certified Pre-Owned - Sub Frame (post #292)
78) 02bmwdinan330ci - 2002 325ci - 87k(high way milage) - Subframe tearing/damage (post #293)
79) tschmale - 2000 328Ci fixed at 70k miles, driver rear. (post #307)
80) M3Bmwcoupe - 99 328i - 80k miles (post #329)
81) BluE46 - 323i cracked subframe, drivers side, driveshaft mounts busted too - 54k miles (post #330)
82) miami323 - 323Ci - 72,000 miles (post #332)
83) All ON U - 323Ci (post #336)
84) superitr - 2000 BMW 323ci - rear diff mounts torn/sub-frame damage - 75k (post #339)
85) titomolotov-2000 bmw 328ci - subframe rear four deifferents areas torn (post #344)
86) doosk - 2000 323Ci (post # 347)
87) saiine - 2000 328i - 100k miles, rear subframe torn out on left side, right side cracked. (post #369)
88) sk3lly - 2000 328ci Had damage at 70,000mi rear left side. Fixed by BMWNA 12/2004 (post #371-372)
89) Shoomer - 99 323i - Sub Frame / Diff mount Tears (4/11/05) 89,000 Mi (post #377)
90) Shahshauhin - 1999 BMW 328i- Sub Frame(Rear) / Diff. mounts torn - 73,000 miles (post #407)
91) shortyz918 - 2000 328ci - 53k miles (post #417)
92) Wretchy - 2000 328ci - Sub Frame Damage (rear) - 34,000 Miles - 3/01/03 (post# 429)
93) m3-dude - 99 328i (post# 441)
94) nleksan - 328Ci (post #507)
95) Ian B - 1999 328i - 110,000 miles - subframe cracking - 02/2006 (post# 517)
96) Jake6172-2000 328Ci -101,000- subframe mount (rear/driver side) TORN!!! (post# 546)
97) Reno - 1999 328CI - currently 140,000Km - subframe damage was way back though, was fixed once then happend again (post# 549)
98) 323ciguy - 2000 323ci - 95K - Stock suspension - HUGE HOLE - See pic above (post# 551)
99) Hey-G - 2000 323i - 122,000kms - Stock Sport suspension - small tear (rear/driver side) (post# 552)
100) iseedipp - 2000 323ci - 80k - stock susp. (post# 554)
101) jw330ci - 323ci - 110k - torn the driver side (post# 559)
102) roo97ss - 2000 328ci - 5 spd - 50k - Driver rear. (post# 562)
103) ryanwhite74115 - 1999 328i, stock susp., 104k, driver and pass. rear (post# 565)
104) mjparky - 2000 323ci , 5speed manual. 90k rear drivers side beginning to tear on rear passenger (post# 566)
105) ck21084 - 323ci (post# 567)
106) speedcrazy1532 -2000 328 Ci- auto trans- 93000miles (post# 582)
107) hawk99 - 323ci (post# 587)
108) kimokeo - 2000 M-roadster 126,000 mi (post# 589)
109) e46m54325ci- 2002 325Ci Diff mount cracked and control arm bushings cracked and leaking- non-cpo at $1400 fixed yesterday, 33000 miles- a little early I thought, but maybe not (post# 590)
110) sexysilver - 2000 328ci - left rear subframe damage (fixed :reinforced) - 84,000 ($1800 fixed) (post# 591)
111) JToddK - 2000 328i, 120K Mi., drivers side (Left) rear subframe mount completely torn out, repair pending. (post# 592)
112) inspiritable1 - 2000 328i - 109k - 5 speed - Premium and Sports package - Drivers side rear - Will get an estimate tomorrow. (post# 595)
113) Doanut- 1999 323i -125 % speed. Premuim Sports... Dropped car of today for estimate (post# 596)
114) Reedo302 - Have seen two E46 328i's at my dealership in Minnesota with subframe damage in the rear. Both went to wholesale due to excessive cost of refurbishment. Both were 90k mile vehicles.
115)TBlueCoupe - 2000 BMW 328Ci - Sub-Frame fracture Left Rear 91,000 heard noise in rear around 60k
116) cwarner - 2000 328Ci - 65K miles stock sport suspension with 16" rims.
117) wrathchild819 - 2000 323i - 138k stock - differential/subframe mount cracked
118) recall-my-e46 - '0 323ci - 65k - subframe torn - going to the dealer to see if this can be covered - especially since in '05 they told me not to worry about it if I don't plan on keeping the car for more than 6 months
119) pangeum - 2000 BMW 328Ci - Sub Frame Cracked - 90,000 - 3/2006
120) JaysE46 2000 323ci Stock sport suspension 17" rims 80k Violent vibration in the rear differential
121) Ben_328ci - '00 328ci - 113k Stock - Driver's side mount torn. 100% repaired by BMWNA. 9/2006
122) falconflyr - 00 328i sport - 117k Stock - Drivers side rear diff mount torn, other mounts propogating rapidly. 9/2006
123) e30mpwrd - '00 323ci - 110k - Subframe tears. 9/2006 (post# 654)
124) Smoof15 - '00 323ci - 106k - Subframe tears. 9/2006 (post# 656)
125) blueballz - '00 323ci - 150k - Driver's side subframe mount torn. 7/2006
126) cvega01- 1999 BMW 323i- Sub Frame Rear driver side tore out entirely. @ 75,000 miles. Had it repaired on my own though, not cheap!!
127)tuckin19'skid - 2000 323ci rear mount failed Sept 2006, 34,000 miles
128)junrboy- 2000 323ci rear mount failed October 2006, 112K miles
129)Bimm - 2000 323CI stock! 68000mi failed 2006
130)Hobie24- 2000 BMW 328CI- Sub Frame(Rear)/ Diff. mounts Torn 80,000 miles 10/11/06
131)strictly180 - 328i October 2006
132)Eurobim - 2000 323CI - Subframe tear (driver's rear) 156,000kms
133)Beckham007 2000 323ci 60kmiles (subframe torn/crackin
134)BMuu328i - 2000328i -125k- Subframe cracked rear drivers side. 11/2006
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I just recently tore my subframe and in the process of getting it fixed. Do you have aftermarket suspension, or are you riding stock? Cuz i have a meeting for BMWNA to come out to my local BMW shop in a few days to look at it to decide whether they will cover it or not. The thing is I have all new Bilstein supsension, so i dont know if they will cover the costs...
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