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Old 11-11-2004, 10:24 AM   #1
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New Falkens for street tire classes

A buddy sent me this regarding the Azenis replacement tire which is coming out soon. The drifting reference is a little frightening but I guess they have to sell tires to make money.


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They're called the Azenis RT-615. They use light weight nylon sidewalls instead of steel (like the old azenis sport), and the tread compound is not supposed to get greasy when they heat like the sport does. The tech rep was telling me that they can be mounted with the large blocks on the inside of the rear rims to help produce oversteer for drifting or race tuning. They are aysemetrical and non directional, so you can rotate them front to back and side to side, and the sidewall is supposed to be as stiff (if not more) as the sport.

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195-60-14
185-60-14

205-50-15
195-50-15
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205-40-16

205-40-17
215-40-17
235-40-17
255-40-17
275-40-17
225-45-17
245-45-17
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225-40-18
235-40-18
245-40-18
255-40-18
225-45-18
275-35-18
255-35-18
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Old 11-11-2004, 02:08 PM   #2
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225-40-18? Mmmmm, STU here I come!
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Old 11-11-2004, 04:57 PM   #3
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Old 11-12-2004, 07:07 AM   #4
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Old 11-28-2004, 12:28 PM   #5
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Just found this. Great info, thanks.

No 245/40/17 though.
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Old 11-28-2004, 02:08 PM   #6
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Just found this. Great info, thanks.

No 245/40/17 though.
A 255/40/17 will fit on all 4 corners on an E46.
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Old 11-28-2004, 02:14 PM   #7
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A 255/40/17 will fit on all 4 corners on an E46.
Hmm, maybe. I was thinking of doing some some scca events in STX though, and the limit there is 245 on 8" wheels.
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Old 11-28-2004, 09:07 PM   #8
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Hmm, maybe. I was thinking of doing some some scca events in STX though, and the limit there is 245 on 8" wheels.
Hi Matt!!

I'll be on BFGoodrich g-Force KD 245/40/17s next year in STX. This will be THE tire for our car, in STX.

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Old 11-28-2004, 09:10 PM   #9
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I'll be on BFGoodrich g-Force KD 245/40/17s next year in STX. This will be THE tire for our car, in STX.
I thought you were going DSP? You have me so confused with all your changing plans!

I agree the BFG KD 245/40/17 is the best choice, but at almost $200/tire I might pass. But we'll see how serious I am when my 225 azenis wear out. Maybe I'll get suckered in!
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I thought you were going DSP? You have me so confused with all your changing plans!
I’m actually preparing my car for both classes, STX and DSP (other then wheels and tires). I’m pretty confident that my car will be competitive in STX next year, so I am focused on that right now and plan to start the season in STX. If for some reason STX doesn’t work out, I’ll make the jump over to DSP.

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I agree the BFG KD 245/40/17 is the best choice, but at almost $200/tire I might pass. But we'll see how serious I am when my 225 azenis wear out. Maybe I'll get suckered in!
Keep in mind, I’m use to spending $250 per tire (on Hoosiers) and going through at least two sets per season… so $200 per tire for one set that will last me all season is a bargain!!
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Keep in mind, I’m use to spending $250 per tire (on Hoosiers) and going through at least two sets per season… so $200 per tire for one set that will last me all season is a bargain!!
Try explaining that to my wife!

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Try explaining that to my wife!
Sorry, I can't. I have enough trouble explaining that to my own wife.
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Now that you're out of stock, will you be installing the rear RD sway bar? I just ordered some UUC's.

I'm also curious to hear how much you find the LSD helps. I won't be ordering one of them any time soon though.
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Old 11-29-2004, 09:27 PM   #14
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Now that you're out of stock, will you be installing the rear RD sway bar? I just ordered some UUC's.

I'm also curious to hear how much you find the LSD helps. I won't be ordering one of them any time soon though.
I'm currently testing a "no rear sway bar option". ... but more on that later.
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I'll be on BFGoodrich g-Force KD 245/40/17s next year in STX. This will be THE tire for our car, in STX. Andy
Hi Andy

Maybe....if Andy drives well
But you know, the gear ratio (shorter tire) with 235/40's is really noticeable...
..if they wouldn't overheat the new Azeni's in this size might be an, potentially quick and interesting choice....


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Maybe....if Andy drives well
But you know, the gear ratio (shorter tire) with 235/40's is really noticeable...
..if they wouldn't overheat the new Azeni's in this size might be an, potentially quick and interesting choice....


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Yes, I agree gear ratio makes a big difference, you have to find that balance between grip and gearing. Tom Hoppe took the 2004 National Championship in STX in his WRX on shaven 245/35/17 Falken Azenis ST-115s. Talk about a gearing advantage!! I may consider testing a set of these tires later this year, just to see if the gearing difference would make up for slightly less grip compared to the BFG KDs.

The BFG KDs are suppose to have more grip then the Azenis and the KDs run a bit wide, which is good. My 245/40/17 BFG KDs are 1/4" wider then my 255/35/18 Michelin PS2s. The gearing difference would have to make a HUGE difference to make up for the grip of these KDs… the grip of these tires are absolutely incredible!!

Have you talked with Burns? What are his plans for next year?
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Yes, I agree gear ratio makes a big difference, you have to find that balance between grip and gearing.
Have you talked with Burns? What are his plans for next year?
Yeah, you know on an autox course it was fairly unusual to even think about 3rd gear in the 330...so 'shorter' gearing might work out well...and it sure would be nice to have more 'pull' out of slower corners...

No Jack didn't show for the recent NWOR banquet...though he usually does not. Sometime soon will give him a call to discuss chew over whether I can go with SA Koni's in the front (DA in back) and save myself $450 so I can buy more tires, of course. (I sure hope Jack continue to run in DS as a baseline though). Eventually I"ll throw the shock question up on the forum, and also will call tunnel and kline. Oh did you see Bob has a new link up on his site about 330 alignment...not like I'm thinking, but I understand his points.

I'm still kibbitzing over what new set of tires to start with. 255 Victos work and are a familiar, and might be easiest to play with adjusting the new shocks. The new Hoosiers, though, are quicker and are better on asphalt and at a lower temp than the old ones were. And then there's the possibility of 710's in 245/45...probably too tall might be fun to try them (if they do actually ever come in for the spring). Having fun throwing car around on squishy snow tires these days.

what's this about no sway bar... I assume in the front. You aren't going out for drifting competition are you to break in that new LSD?

waiting on spring


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what's this about no sway bar... I assume in the front. You aren't going out for drifting competition are you to break in that new LSD?
TC Kline suggested I try running without a rear sway bar to help get the power to the ground on corner exit. I did some initial testing and liked how the car felt on corner exit, however not sure I liked how it felt in transitions, so I am now testing a stiffer rear sway. I’ll be driving down to SC in a couple weeks for a two day test & tune and plan to do more testing and dialing the car in before the season starts up… just trying to get an early jump on things… plus cabin fever is starting to set in.

The LSD on this car is soooo much fun!! Before I got it, I wasn’t sure it would be worth the money, because I didn’t know how much time it would save me on course. Well, I can already tell, this LSD is going to be a HUGE advantage!! I can now incorporate the “Danny Popp” style of driving!!

Spring can not come fast enough!!
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your pm was full andyzhp, was wondering where u got your lsd from.
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