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Old 11-29-2004, 09:40 PM   #1
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how much camber ????????

looking to get some feedback on what some of you fanatics are running, camber wise, front and rear for autocross and track events. thanks.
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Old 11-29-2004, 10:01 PM   #2
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looking to get some feedback on what some of you fanatics are running, camber wise, front and rear for autocross and track events. thanks.
-3 to -3.5 in the front, -2.5 in the rear
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Old 11-29-2004, 10:25 PM   #3
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-3 to -3.5 in the front, -2.5 in the rear
Huh? I thought around -1.3 up front was max on the E46.


EDIT: Doh, you got camber plates?
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Old 11-29-2004, 10:26 PM   #4
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a friend of mine has -1.25 in the front and -2 at the back. i'm gonna try that setting on the next auto-x event. my car currently has -0.5 all around.
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Old 11-29-2004, 10:38 PM   #5
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Does anyone know the factory camber setting? Around -0.5 maybe?

I punched out the alignment tabs and pushed them toward the center for some extra negative camber (another -0.5? ) I'm wondering if I'm anywhere near max? (around -1.3 is max, I think)
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Old 11-29-2004, 11:25 PM   #6
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Does anyone know the factory camber setting? Around -0.5 maybe?

I punched out the alignment tabs and pushed them toward the center for some extra negative camber (another -0.5? ) I'm wondering if I'm anywhere near max? (around -1.3 is max, I think)
When I set my car up for the stock class last season, I had an alignment to set max negative camber all the way around... this is all I got.

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=49459


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Huh? I thought around -1.3 up front was max on the E46.


EDIT: Doh, you got camber plates?
Yep, those help quite a bit.
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Old 12-10-2004, 10:59 PM   #7
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-3 to -3.5 in the front, -2.5 in the rear
Andy,

I was thinking you were the guy my favorite alignment mechanic (Bill at Performance Alignment in Cincinnati) set up. He said he setup my car the same as yours (another '03 ZHP). But he was only able to get about -1.0 in front; he dialed down rear camber to about -1.5 or so.

Same as you -- my alignment tab has been punched out. But you've got to do something else to these e46s (camber plates, etc.) to get more then -1 to -1.5 of camber out of the front end.

Come on...give up the scoop...I'm going through front tires like a bandit here!

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Old 12-10-2004, 11:36 PM   #8
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e36 and e46's love lots of front camber. i run -3.5deg front -1.8 rear.
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Andy,

I was thinking you were the guy my favorite alignment mechanic (Bill at Performance Alignment in Cincinnati) set up. He said he setup my car the same as yours (another '03 ZHP). But he was only able to get about -1.0 in front; he dialed down rear camber to about -1.5 or so.

Same as you -- my alignment tab has been punched out. But you've got to do something else to these e46s (camber plates, etc.) to get more then -1 to -1.5 of camber out of the front end.

Come on...give up the scoop...I'm going through front tires like a bandit here!

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To get more then -1 degrees of camber up front you're going to need camber plates for sure. I recently bought the new E46 camber plates from TC Kline Racing. These plates have totally transformed the handling of the car. I would highly recommend them!!

http://www.tcklineracing.com/monoball.htm#camber

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i have -2.5 all around.. but i definetly need to go with more up front.. probably -3.0

i have the ground controll camber plates

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Wasn't there a post somewhere sayign that although these camber plates increase camber, they actually reduce castor? And some argue castor is much more important that camber.


Any thoughts on this?
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Wasn't there a post somewhere sayign that although these camber plates increase camber, they actually reduce castor? And some argue castor is much more important that camber.


Any thoughts on this?
The caster on the E46 is not adjustable and comes stock with about 4.4 degrees. TC Kline's camber/caster plates actually have quite a bit of caster adjustment. I have max caster set with these plates and am running about 7.2 degrees.
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most of the adjustable camber plates can adjust caster. i have the motorforce plates and i have @ 6deg caster.
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The ground controll camber plates have a ton of caster adjustment on them also..

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Does anyone know the factory camber setting? Around -0.5 maybe?

I punched out the alignment tabs and pushed them toward the center for some extra negative camber (another -0.5? ) I'm wondering if I'm anywhere near max? (around -1.3 is max, I think)
sorry to threadjack, but how did you punch out the alignment tabs. Can you post a pic?

Does it look like my shock tower shown in this thread:

http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=220070
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Spiral Prophet - I just checked GC's website and it looks like the camber plates they make don't work with stock springs. Is that wrong or do you have a GC suspension setup? Thanks!
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Spiral Prophet - I just checked GC's website and it looks like the camber plates they make don't work with stock springs. Is that wrong or do you have a GC suspension setup? Thanks!
Yeah they don't work with stock springs.. i replaced my front springs that came with my pss9 setup with eibach race springs... springs need to be straight cylinder shaped and not cone shaped... but it was a good thing.. the billstien springs are progressive rate where the eibach's are a straight rated spring..

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