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Old 12-10-2013, 12:37 PM   #1
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Sincerity or Grandstanding?

What does everyone think of Ted Cruz's attendance at Nelson Mandela's memorial service? He was blasted by his supporters for his positive FB post about Mandela. Personally I think he is just grandstanding and seeking to boost his international credentials. Certainly this move won't be popular among his supporters, but will he gain more than he loses or will this be his Chris Christie moment?

Or is this a sincere gesture. Is Nelson Mandela really an inspiration?

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Old 12-10-2013, 12:42 PM   #2
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Grandstanding...a photo op no doubt.

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Old 12-10-2013, 01:32 PM   #3
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127% the latter - grandstanding, which Cruz does so well.
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Old 12-10-2013, 03:13 PM   #4
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Mitt Romney posted some nice things about him on FB.
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He's a politician, right?

If so, grandstanding.....every time.
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He's a politician, right?

If so, grandstanding.....every time.
just like all the other representatives that were there.
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Old 12-10-2013, 03:51 PM   #7
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grandstanding..........and opportunistic

90 percent of the politicians attending don't care about Mandela.......they are going because it is one of those things they are expected to do and to see other politicians.
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He's a politician, right?

If so, grandstanding.....every time.
This is the correct answer.
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it's a ****ing memorial.... get over the drama for an hour to focus on the person who died.

earlier today I hear that they were recognizing attendees, and when they flashed Bush's face, attendees BOO'd.

At a MEMORIAL, people consciously thought "**** the guy who this is for, I want to express my political opinion." classy

edit: it disgusts me how even the attendance at a memorial has turned into a political drama-show.
shame on you, CNN http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/09/politi...-mandela-trip/

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it's a ****ing memorial.... get over the drama for an hour to focus on the person who died.

earlier today I hear that they were recognizing attendees, and when they flashed Bush's face, attendees BOO'd.

At a MEMORIAL, people consciously thought "**** the guy who this is for, I want to express my political opinion." classy

edit: it disgusts me how even the attendance at a memorial has turned into a political drama-show.
shame on you, CNN http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/09/politi...-mandela-trip/
It's like a Xmas party.........you go to schmooze with your friends and suck up to the boss.

They don't.....care.....about ......Mandela........it is an opportunity to see other leaders.

The same way people in Hollywood go to parties to get connections and meet producers, directors, cast directors........etc.......

It has nothing to do with his memorial or what he did.
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It's like a Xmas party.........you go to schmooze with your friends and suck up to the boss.

They don't.....care.....about ......Mandela........it is an opportunity to see other leaders.

The same way people in Hollywood go to parties to get connections and meet producers, directors, cast directors........etc.......

It has nothing to do with his memorial or what he did.
I guess

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It's like a Xmas party.........you go to schmooze with your friends and suck up to the boss.

They don't.....care.....about ......Mandela........it is an opportunity to see other leaders.

The same way people in Hollywood go to parties to get connections and meet producers, directors, cast directors........etc.......

It has nothing to do with his memorial or what he did.
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Are some of you inferring that Republican's don't care for African Americans?
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Are some of you inferring that Republican's don't care for African Americans?
As a black american I gotta say that as a whole I don't feel as if the GOP care to much about folks of my sort. I'm sure there are a few individuals that may but as a whole...nope. The goes double for tea party peeps. IMO

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It's like a Xmas party.........you go to schmooze with your friends and suck up to the boss.

They don't.....care.....about ......Mandela........it is an opportunity to see other leaders.
Yet Obama didn't go to Thatcher's funeral, nor did he bring Eric Holder, Susan Rice and Valerie Jarrett...who all attended Mandela with Barry. Oh yeah, Hilary went too.

who would have saw that coming????
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As a black american I gotta say that as a whole I don't feel as if the GOP care to much about folks of my sort. I'm sure there are a few individuals that may but as a whole...nope. The goes double for tea party peeps. IMO

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Can't WAIT to see a white republican response to this post.
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As a black american I gotta say that as a whole I don't feel as if the GOP care to much about folks of my sort. I'm sure there are a few individuals that may but as a whole...nope. The goes double for tea party peeps. IMO

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Republican's don't care for fiscal irresponsibility and entitlement. If a person of a particular ethnicity aligns to these hallmarks, the ill will may be placed there.

Unfortunately, per capita, African Americans align more heavily with these ideals which are in stark contrast to those of the GOP. That said, that doesn't mean they don't CARE about you. They don't care about your miss placed ideals.
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Republican's don't care for fiscal irresponsibility and entitlement. If a person of a particular ethnicity aligns to these hallmarks, the ill will may be placed there.

Unfortunately, per capita, African Americans align more heavily with these ideals which are in stark contrast to those of the GOP. That said, that doesn't mean they don't CARE about you. They don't care about your miss placed ideals.
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