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Old 01-22-2005, 02:31 AM   #1
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Why does Boyd Coddington hate Chip Foose?

I was watching American Hot Rod and Boyd's painter Charley wanted leave Boyd to work on a car for Foose. Boyd called Foose the enemy or something like that and was really pissed about Charley leaving to go work for Foose.
Now from what I could understand Boyd & Chip where in bussiness together at one time but for whatever reason they had a falling out and Chip left. Boyd was saying that Chip tried to "bring him down" just like everyone else.
Anyone know what caused Boyd's hatred for Foose?
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Old 01-22-2005, 02:36 AM   #2
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nope...

but i saw charlie working with chip on rides painting the Caddilac XLR
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Old 01-22-2005, 02:39 AM   #3
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I don't know anything about the situ, but just from observing...
boyd=king resting on his laurels, but has shown no talent other than as a manager.
foose=heir to the king who designs and still keeps his hands on approach.

If I was charley, i'd want to work with foose over boyd.
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nope...

but i saw charlie working with chip on rides painting the Caddilac XLR
Yeah, in the episode he decided to leave to work with Foose and Boyd told him he would not be welcomed back, Boyd wouldn't not even shake his hand.
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I was watching American Hot Rod and Boyd's painter Charley wanted leave Boyd to work on a car for Foose. Boyd called Foose the enemy or something like that and was really pissed about Charley leaving to go work for Foose.
Now from what I could understand Boyd & Chip where in bussiness together at one time but for whatever reason they had a falling out and Chip left. Boyd was saying that Chip tried to "bring him down" just like everyone else.
Anyone know what caused Boyd's hatred for Foose?
because he has better designs.......
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Old 01-22-2005, 03:31 AM   #6
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i couldnt get into this show - boyd was always an a$$hole and i agree - didnt add much to the mix of design and talent- the show got lame in my opinion -

now i do love american chopper.
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the boyd coddington shop is 5 miles from my house... maybe i should go ask him

this is really messed up for charles, regardless of how mean boyd is, he actually let charles live in his house for 2 years while he worked out some problem and this is how he repay boyd?

this is fked up beyond words, he is not even leaving for the right reason, he is going to work at his competitor, as much as i love chip and his talent, but this is just sad
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I don't know anything about the situ, but just from observing...
boyd=king resting on his laurels, but has shown no talent other than as a manager.
foose=heir to the king who designs and still keeps his hands on approach.

If I was charley, i'd want to work with foose over boyd.
if you were charley you'd be an as$ (not that you're one) in the since that boyd and charley are close friends. charley lived with boyd for 2yrs, and knew that he disliked foose. just from that alone, charley is a sh!tty friend for going the other way. friendship should mean more. it's not like boyd has a less superior shop to foose they're almost equal. so what he did was just wrong.
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Old 01-22-2005, 05:38 AM   #9
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if you were charley you'd be an as$ (not that you're one) in the since that boyd and charley are close friends. charley lived with boyd for 2yrs, and knew that he disliked foose. just from that alone, charley is a sh!tty friend for going the other way. friendship should mean more. it's not like boyd has a less superior shop to foose they're almost equal. so what he did was just wrong.
Like I said I didn't know the history they had. From watching the show the few times i've seen it though I got the impression that Boyd took him for granted.

How long is someone required to be beholden to their benefactor? Boyd may've been a surrogate father figure for Charlie, but you eventually have to leave the nest or the familiarity will breed contempt if the individuals positions aren't at equal levels.

As a creative person, I want to work with creative people. Chip Foose at this point in their careers seems to be more creative and pushes more boundaries than Boyd seems to do. Thanks just my impression.
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if you were charley you'd be an as$ (not that you're one) in the since that boyd and charley are close friends. charley lived with boyd for 2yrs, and knew that he disliked foose. just from that alone, charley is a sh!tty friend for going the other way. friendship should mean more. it's not like boyd has a less superior shop to foose they're almost equal. so what he did was just wrong.
Like I said I didn't know the history they had. From watching the show the few times i've seen it though I got the impression that Boyd took him for granted.

How long is someone required to be beholden to their benefactor? Boyd may've been a surrogate father figure for Charlie, but you eventually have to leave the nest or the familiarity will breed contempt if the individuals positions aren't at equal levels.

As a creative person, I want to work with creative people. Chip Foose at this point in their careers seems to be more creative and pushes more boundaries than Boyd seems to do. Thanks just my impression.
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Old 01-22-2005, 10:03 AM   #11
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just from observing...
boyd has shown no talent other than as a manager.
You're kidding, right? This guy couldn't manage his way out of a paper bag. He's the poster child of how *not* to manage. R.
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Chip Foose worked for Boyd Coddington from 1990 to 1998, and at the end was president of Hot Rods by Boyd.

Foose designed most of Coddington's "signature" cars and is generally credited with creating the Coddington "look". Foose designed Coddington's Roadster, Sportstar, Boydster I and II, and Boyd Air to name a few.

Then in 1998 Foose started his own company, which is not that big of a surpise, since Chip's father is also a well-known fabricator and owns a company called Project Design, whose best-known work is probably the "Eleanor" Mustang from "Gone in 60 Seconds".

When Foose left Hot Rods by Boyd a key chunk of Boyd's staff went with him. So Boyd lost a major portion of his creative staff, which he did not take very well. Hence the bad blood between them.
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Boyd might have been a great father figure, but he is an a-hole to work for. That guy expects so much out of his guys it is crazy. I would never buy one of his cars. Charlie is the only guy I ever liked. Chip Foose seems so much cooler and a better guy. I would leave that guy and work for as a dog walker in a minute.
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Old 01-22-2005, 11:21 AM   #14
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Sucks seein Charlie go, Boyd's old lady took it hard as hell anyone else think Charlie was gettin at it???
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Sucks seein Charlie go, Boyd's old lady took it hard as hell anyone else think Charlie was gettin at it???
I watched this last night too - didnt he say something about his wife and kids and thats why he left to go to Chip?

I mean, if you gotta make a choice for your family over anything, that is the right choice... as far as I am concerned... your family, especially your wife and kid come above everything...
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I watched this last night too - didnt he say something about his wife and kids and thats why he left to go to Chip?

I mean, if you gotta make a choice for your family over anything, that is the right choice... as far as I am concerned... your family, especially your wife and kid come above everything...
the reason why he said that was because he said he worked too hard for boyd and thus took too much time away from his family, he usually worked like 12hr+ day, and sometimes even longer when deadline was coming up, if you've watched the show, sometimes he would be the ONLY one staying over night to paint a car so everyone can work on the car the next day, he was the only person i respect ouf of the whole show, sad to see him go

boyd coddington is much more well known than foose tho
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I like Foose better.
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i wondered what happened, i had turned it on at the last minute and didnt know what the fock was going on
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Chip Foose worked for Boyd Coddington from 1990 to 1998, and at the end was president of Hot Rods by Boyd.

Foose designed most of Coddington's "signature" cars and is generally credited with creating the Coddington "look". Foose designed Coddington's Roadster, Sportstar, Boydster I and II, and Boyd Air to name a few.

Then in 1998 Foose started his own company, which is not that big of a surpise, since Chip's father is also a well-known fabricator and owns a company called Project Design, whose best-known work is probably the "Eleanor" Mustang from "Gone in 60 Seconds".

When Foose left Hot Rods by Boyd a key chunk of Boyd's staff went with him. So Boyd lost a major portion of his creative staff, which he did not take very well. Hence the bad blood between them.
I knew this board had the answer. So Boyd is pissed at Foose becuse he took his creative talent and put it to work for himself.
Boyd has to know that these younger, talented custom builders are gonna eventually wanna venture out on their own and are gonna soon tire of the RUSH RUSH pace Boyd puts them under.
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Foose has a knack for design, it radiates from him in everything he does. I personally hated American Hot Rod because of Boyd's taking his staff for granted. If you want your team to work well, you dont get pissed at every little thing that happens. I would have done exactly what Charlie did.
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