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Old 01-25-2005, 08:37 PM   #61
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Umm... is this on your site yet?, when will it be on the site?
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Old 01-25-2005, 11:05 PM   #62
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So what makes these "Generic"? No one seems to want to explain the difference in all these new enhanced cheapie kits that are going to be coming out and the Wheelpower Phosphyre Halos Enhanced V2 kit that's still $290.

In the cheaper kit, are the rings not as bright, is the enhanced portion not as thick and OEM looking, is the warranty different? What's the deal?

Or is it simply these cheaper kits have some china made parts that are "lower quality" perhaps, or just so massed produced the cost is cheaper.

Why would someone continue to spend $300 on the Wheelpower kit if a $90 or $150 kit is going to look as good, have full harness, and be just as bright?

What's the bottom line here
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Old 01-25-2005, 11:22 PM   #63
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In the cheaper kit, are the rings not as bright, is the enhanced portion not as thick and OEM looking, is the warranty different? What's the deal?
Or is it simply these cheaper kits have some china made parts that are "lower quality" perhaps, or just so massed produced the cost is cheaper.
Actually, all of the above. These ones have less sophisticated clips, no connectors for the harness --> ballasts (you can use butt connectors or solder), the warranty isn't free parts or lifetime - you pay $10 per part for the first year, $30 after that. The enhanced upgrades are thinner, less OEM looking. The harness may require running one of the wires out of the sheathing, whereas that is already done for you on the phosphyre halos harness. They are mass produced and cost us much much less because they aren't name brand. Ever bougth Absolut vodka? Expensive and nice, right? Ever bought Pavlov? Still get's you drunk at the end of the day, just doesn't necessarily taste as good How's that for an analogy

I'd say they're about as bright as Phosphyre halos, give or take 5%. I haven't really done a side-by-side, no time

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Old 01-25-2005, 11:31 PM   #64
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So for $190 extra dollars you get:

-Thicker enhanced ring
-Better mounting clip - can't say how much better without pictures
-Lifetime warranty
-More complete wiring harness

Depending on the installer, some of those are trivial items not worth cash, namely wiring harness and possibly mounting clips. A lifetime warranty and thicker enhanced rings are actual feasble items you can see benefits from (thicker ring) and get benefits from (lifetime warranty) if you have issues with product.

So now it seems these newer generic kits are going to have 1 step up on Wheelpower in 1 aspect, and that's the opaque backings. Sure it's easy as pie to get some foil tape and cut it to fit your rings, but having it come that way is a little nicer. Is the Wheelpower kit going to get updated to have this feature?

Is there going to be a time when the generic kits have ALL the features of the Wheelpower kit? Or all of them except the lifetime warranty perhaps? Most people would spend $100 and potentially have to buy the kit 3x total in the life of their car (assuming they had rings or ballast go bad, etc), then spend $300 at once just to have a lifetime warranty they might not ever have to use.

Seems like the CCFL Angel Eyes/DDE market changes every few weeks now, impossible to always keep up.
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Old 01-26-2005, 07:40 AM   #65
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confusing....

HDclown...................Well said..
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So when does more info come out on the price drop + free remote kit?
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Old 01-26-2005, 03:25 PM   #67
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are u going to put a link on here when they are available?
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Old 01-26-2005, 03:47 PM   #68
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The DDE Kits we are selling now are a pre-cursor to DDE Lightning Titanium Edition, as far as I know that's what it will be renamed.
It will have many new features, including heating and a true reflective backing.
Anyone who buys our premium kits now will have the benefit to upgrade to TE for much less. Anyone who buys the $90 kits will have to pay full price for the heating feature if they want it.

Bottom line is that NO, generic kits will never keep up. Why? Our suppliers on DDE Lightning Titanium Edition have patented the heating technology, which will permanently eliminate cold starts, in every country that has the tools of production necessary to make these rings. Sorry Taiwan. Sorry Japan. Sorry China. If you don't mind waiting 30 seconds for your halos to fire up to full brightness, then no worries. But I think the heating feature is a justification of the price point that TE will be set at. More to come next month on that
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Old 01-26-2005, 04:54 PM   #69
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...Ever bougth Absolut vodka? Expensive and nice, right? Ever bought Pavlov? Still get's you drunk at the end of the day, just doesn't necessarily taste as good How's that for an analogy

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good explanation!
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Old 01-26-2005, 07:04 PM   #70
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I knew you'd all love that one
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hey is there a date when these will be avaiable jl?
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Anyone have a set of the $90 dollar ones brand new, still in the box that they didn't install... that they wanna sell because they wants these?
PM me.... I might be interested in buying them.

They must be un-installed and brand new. I'm not lookin to buy used ones, sorry.
And make sure you hit me with a price.... of coarse i'll be going with the lowest mark.
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Anyone have a set of the $90 dollar ones brand new, still in the box that they didn't install... that they wanna sell because they wants these?
PM me.... I might be interested in buying them.

They must be un-installed and brand new. I'm not lookin to buy used ones, sorry.
And make sure you hit me with a price.... of coarse i'll be going with the lowest mark.
Good idea. I'm equally as interested. Shoot me a pm too if you're looking to sell your unopened $90 DDEs.
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That's a good idea
After you guys get it all sorted out, I'll match whatever the going rate is for them - I just want to make sure that those who bought from me have a chance to sell them off too.

Rumor has it I have another 12 sets coming next week
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Old 01-27-2005, 12:58 AM   #75
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i was gonna buy leistung's kit, but i think i'll hold off and wait for this
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Old 01-27-2005, 09:31 AM   #76
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What will the cheapest DDEs that you offer be priced at? When will this be availible?
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We'll offer te regular (non-enhanced) $149 DDE for about... $90, but you'll get something free with every purchase...This will ONLY be for E46Fanatics. We'll have like 2 or 3 of them lying around here after next week.

Go ahead and check our website tomorrow night or saturday - we should have another 12 sets of the new Enhanced DDEs coming in, and a large shipment of heat-proof harnesses

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it's nto thsi one is it?

http://jlevistreetwerks.com/OSCOMMER...ead144a44d586c
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Nope.
I'm having an employee pick them up in an hour they should be ready to order by tomorrow.
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We'll offer te regular (non-enhanced) $149 DDE for about... $90, but you'll get something free with every purchase...This will ONLY be for E46Fanatics. We'll have like 2 or 3 of them lying around here after next week.

Go ahead and check our website tomorrow night or saturday - we should have another 12 sets of the new Enhanced DDEs coming in, and a large shipment of heat-proof harnesses

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So wait, whatever is stated in your first post isn't gonna happen?
$90-Enhanced- entire kit- w/ remote?
At this point i don't even care.....hahahha just tell me when i'll be able to order
the only reason i'm not getting the more expensive ones is they're too blue and theres no sense in spending more money on something i think looks more gay
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