m3 & sc 3 series 1/4 times

Originally Posted by vaio76109

There's no replacement for displacement though.

Yes there is .. a pump.

Originally Posted by vaio76109

There's no replacement for displacement though.

yes there is... turbo!

Too much lag or too much perastaltic loss/drag.

smaller turbos = less lag

Originally Posted by SLEEP3R

smaller turbos = less lag

...and less power. In the end displacement rules.

Originally Posted by vaio76109

...and less power. In the end displacement rules.

not necessarily, with tuning and chip you could be pushing an added 100 hp.

Your missing the point though. Your using a turbo(or SC) just to merely catch up to the extra C.I./C.C. . Then you have problems with lag(or perastaltic loss/drag) so you go with a smaller turbo, then once again your behind the bigger motor.

but IMO NA > FI

Originally Posted by SLEEP3R

but IMO NA > FI

And after all that

Originally Posted by vaio76109

...and less power. In the end displacement rules.

Is that why everyone with a fast BMW has a Cummins Diesel in it?

Hehe, welcome to 1950s thinking! Wake up and smell the ball bearing turbos!

Originally Posted by MrBlonde

Is that why everyone with a fast BMW has a Cummins Diesel in it?

Hehe, welcome to 1950s thinking! Wake up and smell the ball bearing turbos!

Wake up and smell the lag!

Originally Posted by vaio76109

Wake up and smell the lag!

You're behind the times old chap. Ball bearing turbos and decent matching will result in negligible lag. And at a turbo car's laggiest point, it's still making more power and torque than it's NA equivalent.

The days of big block Chevs ruling the streets is long gone. Unless they have two pumps on them!

Originally Posted by MrBlonde

You're behind the times old chap. Ball bearing turbos and decent matching will result in negligible lag. And at a turbo car's laggiest point, it's still making more power and torque than it's NA equivalent.

The days of big block Chevs ruling the streets is long gone. Unless they have two pumps on them!

Omg, you just dont get the point do you?

PS-chevys and ford still rule the streets(power wise)....in america atleast.

Originally Posted by vaio76109

Omg, you just dont get the point do you?

PS-chevys and ford still rule the streets(power wise)....in america atleast.

Maybe not, but my BMW is faster than yours sweety!

Originally Posted by white01325

yes, hell mike benvo, has a 330 with cams, pulleys, 3.46 diff, shark, intake, exhaust, and he stayed with and m3 at the last meet so picture a sced 330, with im gunna guess here like 325, conservative estimate, depends on the amount of boost you want to go with so yes it could easily beat an m3.

Ummm.... intake? shark? He is sc'd!!! And running 9.5 pounds of boost. He would smoke a stock M3.

No time slip so you don't wana hear it but I run a 13.8 with 7psi.

After my cams, headers, and cat-back exhaust. It should be near 13.

Originally Posted by MrBlonde

Maybe not, but my BMW is faster than yours sweety!

Yea, and my dad can beat up your dad

Originally Posted by Mteknic330ci

Ummm.... intake? shark? He is sc'd!!! And running 9.5 pounds of boost. He would smoke a stock M3.

That post is 8 months old, his car probably wasnt SC'ed back then.

Originally Posted by vaio76109

Yea, and my dad can beat up your dad


That post is 8 months old, his car probably wasnt SC'ed back then.

i ran a 13.88 last week

Originally Posted by Mteknic330ci

Ummm.... intake? shark? He is sc'd!!! And running 9.5 pounds of boost. He would smoke a stock M3.

yup, Mike Benvo is supercharged. Last I saw he was at 9.5psi, but might be higher now. I have no idea what his current differential ratio is. He has been as high as 3.64. He is also putting down 320+hp at the wheels (not the crank). I don't know what he was putting down when you saw him run.

Originally Posted by vaio76109

Yea, and my dad can beat up your dad

If you don't care about performance, then quit posting in the motorsports, racing and track forum inside a quarter mile thread!

Forced induction is an alternative to big cube NA engines, that's all their is to it. It's been proven over and over again. The issue of lag with turbos is a myth, perpetuated only by those who have never owned a turbocharged car.