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Old 02-10-2005, 10:03 PM   #21
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2) The act of compressing air, will heat it up. The position of the intake filter, will not change this. The intercooled kits are more expensive, which is why we are offering a non-intercooled version at a great price for those who do not wish to spend $6,000 on a supercharger. There are plenty of other non-intercooled superchargers out there as well, who are charging a lot more money.

I love to see it has a short-ram intake instead of CAI like most others (or even SK1, SKII) ... don't need hydro-shock -- but I wish it came with a heat shield.
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Old 02-10-2005, 10:39 PM   #22
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Absolutely interesetd in it. I'm not looking for hot rod but my 323iT surely can use more juice .. and the price point seems to fit my budget just fine ... wow, am excited. Questions:

* your web site considered 323 as 2.3L, but my 323 (M52TU) is surely 2.5L, so what gains should I expect from SK+, at the wheels ,not at crank? Any actual dyno sheet for this engine?

* Does it come with software? and is it possible to add an IC as an option?

* Who will run the GB? Infinitas in Germany? or here? Do we just sign up here on this board?

* is the GB Price as "shipped" / "delivered" in the U.S.?

* You do expect this a DIY? If so, how many man hrs would you estimate for a novice?

Pls advise. ... I may need to rethink my plan in getting a chip and euro clear ...
Wagon man: There is no software required for this kit. An intercooler is not possible, since the plumbing is different. However, we are planning on offering an aftercooler in a few months for extra power. The GB will be run through our US distributor, shipping is extra. It is possible to install this in 5-6 hours.
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Old 02-10-2005, 10:40 PM   #23
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so big question....if I have a STEP 03' 325CI and Im interested in getting a full system that is not really hindered by finances but more by the assurance that everything is within tolerance..meaning amount of boost towards the tranny... proper cooling and usabiliity in a daily driver....

what do you recomend I do?

get your skI or II and thats it? Ive heard about the need for tranny software for steptronics... tranny reinforcement??

Im worried about that...just want the SC to not destroy the car...

whats your opinion in this case?
For the 325 STEP, we recommend only SK1.
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Wagon man: There is no software required for this kit. An intercooler is not possible, since the plumbing is different. However, we are planning on offering an aftercooler in a few months for extra power. The GB will be run through our US distributor, shipping is extra. It is possible to install this in 5-6 hours.
* Who & where is your distributor in the U.S.? i.e. How much is shipping?

* Can you provide more info on SK+ in a M52TU ? What gains should we expect?
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Old 02-11-2005, 05:11 AM   #26
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* Who & where is your distributor in the U.S.? i.e. How much is shipping?

* Can you provide more info on SK+ in a M52TU ? What gains should we expect?
Infinitas USA is our importer (otherwise known as Rennsport). Shipping should be about $40-$60 depending on your location in the US or Canada.

Please see the attached dyno sheet. We have regularly registered slightly over 300HP on the 3.0L engine with this kit due to the high efficiency of our new TMIII compressor.
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Infinitas USA is our importer (otherwise known as Rennsport). Shipping should be about $40-$60 depending on your location in the US or Canada.

Please see the attached dyno sheet. We have regularly registered slightly over 300HP on the 3.0L engine with this kit due to the high efficiency of our new TMIII compressor.
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1. Rennsport: so they'll do retail on this one?

2. It is a Z4 (3.0L?) dyno, impressive but I won't get 300hp from my 323, hence meaningless to me. So can you get us a dyno from a M52TU ?
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1. Rennsport: so they'll do retail on this one?

2. It is a Z4 (3.0L?) dyno, impressive but I won't get 300hp from my 323, hence meaningless to me. So can you get us a dyno from a M52TU ?
1) For GroupBuys, yes.

2) Unfortunately, we only have actual dyno graphs for the 3.0Ls. However, we have other customers in Europe who have registered roughly the same % gains across the 2.5L engine.
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1) For GroupBuys, yes.

2) Unfortunately, we only have actual dyno graphs for the 3.0Ls. However, we have other customers in Europe who have registered roughly the same % gains across the 2.5L engine.
Tks for the prompt reply. I browse your web site some more, noted the kit is rated at 210HP, is this extrapolated / calculated at crank? or on the wheels?
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ca-automotive is i believe your uk importer,can this gb be offered through them? if not an explanation would be appreciated.

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Old 02-11-2005, 05:59 AM   #31
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2: also, dont you think the air inside the engine compartment is going to be hot hence that intake is not really possitioned correctly?
Even your CF intake (whatever name it is called) can use one bumper-mod like this:

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Old 02-11-2005, 07:43 AM   #32
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ca-automotive is i believe your uk importer,can this gb be offered through them? if not an explanation would be appreciated.
Shouldn't be a problem, I will check and confirm.
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Not at this time.
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That's too bad ... I might have been interested
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I browse your web site some more, noted the kit is rated at 210HP, is this extrapolated / calculated at crank? or on the wheels?
For my puny 323iT, I gathered that 210 HP is at crank ... now I'm not sure should I invest on a more expensive SK1 rather ... since 210HP is just roughly 180 HP on the wheels (?.... I can be wrong..). But .. ouch ...
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For my puny 323iT, I gathered that 210 HP is at crank ... now I'm not sure should I invest on a more expensive SK1 rather ... since 210HP is just roughly 180 HP on the wheels (?.... I can be wrong..). But .. ouch ...
If that's the case, doesn't make much sense to me to go with this kit. I would definitely HAVE to cough up the extra $3000 or so for an SK2.
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If that's the case, doesn't make much sense to me to go with this kit. I would definitely HAVE to cough up the extra $3000 or so for an SK2.
My estimation is based on 15% loss... may be oon the high side? But even based on a more optimistic 10% loss, it's still < 190 HP at the wheels .... unless their spec is on the conservative side ....

I hate this number game
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Speaking from personal experience with the first SK+ powered 330 in the UK, you can't beat the performance gain with any other mod/mods around similar money. Total reliability and consistency. I've experienced other S/C set-ups and I can vouch that even the SK+ puts a few of those with intercoolers and alcohol injection to shame.

Installation is a breeze and definitely DIY do-able.

Actual dyno figures are good for objective comparisons, but I would rather rely on my butt dyno. The SK+ will definitely put the smile on your face, for the cost that won't break your bank account. The SK+ has revolutionized supercharging and has made forced induction a lot more accessible to tuners, in terms of cost, ease of installation, total reliability and actual performance gain in everyday driving
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