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Old 02-11-2005, 06:44 PM   #41
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So what kind of numbers can we be expected at the wheels for a 330i, 250? Also what about the zhp, will this kit work and any extra poney's available their?

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Old 02-11-2005, 07:15 PM   #42
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Speaking from personal experience with the first SK+ powered 330 in the UK, you can't beat the performance gain with any other mod/mods around similar money. Total reliability and consistency. I've experienced other S/C set-ups and I can vouch that even the SK+ puts a few of those with intercoolers and alcohol injection to shame.

Installation is a breeze and definitely DIY do-able.
If I go with SK+, do I have to put back the stock pulleys? or aftermarket under-drive pulleys can stay ?
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Old 02-11-2005, 10:03 PM   #43
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It just seems to me that this kit boosts you about 50 wheel horses for $4000 while the sk1 kit properly tuned boosts you about 90/100 for $6000. I would be WAY more interested if the price was closer to $3000, although the plug and play ease of this kit seems interesting. I just want my bmw to be able to keep up with stock 996's which run at about 300 horses and I would be happy.

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Old 02-11-2005, 11:14 PM   #44
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Do European cars have obdii? If not, what sort of testing has been done on US cars with obdii?

Will there be any issues passing smog/emissions tests that some states have?

In particular, will CARB (California Air Resources Board) have any issues with this product?

Lastly, the page for the Z3 3.0 SK+ kit says, "In preparation". What does that mean?

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Old 02-11-2005, 11:33 PM   #45
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It just seems to me that this kit boosts you about 50 wheel horses for $4000 while the sk1 kit properly tuned boosts you about 90/100 for $6000. I would be WAY more interested if the price was closer to $3000, although the plug and play ease of this kit seems interesting. I just want my bmw to be able to keep up with stock 996's which run at about 300 horses and I would be happy.

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But in 323 case, unless I'm wrong, I read it as +40HP at crank .. and my expectation isn't as high as yours, I like want to keep up with 330 .. but sounds unlikely ... UNLESS they numbers are conservative.... hence i hope I see a dyno sheet.
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Old 02-12-2005, 02:26 AM   #46
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If I go with SK+, do I have to put back the stock pulleys? or aftermarket under-drive pulleys can stay ?
You need the stock pulleys. I did ask Infinitas about under drive pulleys but because the system was not designed and tested with them before, Infinitas cannot be sure they would work. However, that was back in Oct last year. Thing might have progressed


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Old 02-12-2005, 02:32 AM   #47
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It just seems to me that this kit boosts you about 50 wheel horses for $4000 while the sk1 kit properly tuned boosts you about 90/100 for $6000. I would be WAY more interested if the price was closer to $3000, although the plug and play ease of this kit seems interesting. I just want my bmw to be able to keep up with stock 996's which run at about 300 horses and I would be happy.

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Don't forget the installation cost. I'm not sure what the rates are over in the US but to get an SK1 running, you need to add nearly a grand Euro in labour to install the kit. The SK+ cost less than 300 Euro to install and you don't need to have a great deal of experience to do the install yourself.
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What can ZHP owners expect from this in terms of gains??
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Old 02-12-2005, 08:15 AM   #49
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[QUOTE=peppernick]You need the stock pulleys. I did ask Infinitas about under drive pulleys but because the system was not designed and tested with them before, Infinitas cannot be sure they would work. However, that was back in Oct last year. Thing might have progressed

Tks for the input Pepernick. Am glad that the stock pulleys are still in a box somehwere in the garage, will come handy when they are called for

I still can;t decide yet .. 40 ponies at crank, that's almost $1k per HP at crank ?? appears that SK1 is has more bang in the buck... but then, I do share with you on installation (or de-installation).

The again, will I get the similar performance gains at the wheels just by injecting another $1k on PowerChips & exhaust? ... probably...

Choice, choice , choice
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Old 02-12-2005, 08:30 AM   #50
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You need the stock pulleys. I did ask Infinitas about under drive pulleys but because the system was not designed and tested with them before, Infinitas cannot be sure they would work. However, that was back in Oct last year. Thing might have progressed

Tks for the input Pepernick. Am glad that the stock pulleys are still in a box somehwere in the garage, will come handy when they are called for

I still can;t decide yet .. 40 ponies at crank, that's almost $1k per HP at crank ?? appears that SK1 is has more bang in the buck... but then, I do share with you on installation (or de-installation).

The again, will I get the similar performance gains at the wheels just by injecting another $1k on PowerChips & exhaust? ... probably...

Choice, choice , choice
Wagon Man, good questions... you did most of the work for me since I have a 323i steptronic. I would like to know the same. The install seem pretty straight forward and DIY will not be a problem here

edit: I notice on your site that you have the 323i as a 2.3l. Is that how it is in Germany? In the US mine is a 323i with a 2.5l
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Old 02-12-2005, 02:19 PM   #51
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For my puny 323iT, I gathered that 210 HP is at crank ... now I'm not sure should I invest on a more expensive SK1 rather ... since 210HP is just roughly 180 HP on the wheels (?.... I can be wrong..). But .. ouch ...
This is not correct. The gains we've registered for all E46 models, are in the +30-35% range. 323 is in the 225-230HP, and 325 in the 235-240HP range. We will correct the site.
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Old 02-12-2005, 02:20 PM   #52
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So what kind of numbers can we be expected at the wheels for a 330i, 250? Also what about the zhp, will this kit work and any extra poney's available their?

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Yes, you can expect about 250-255WHP on a manual.
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Old 02-12-2005, 04:17 PM   #53
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This is not correct. The gains we've registered for all E46 models, are in the +30-35% range. 323 is in the 225-230HP, and 325 in the 235-240HP range. We will correct the site.
Good to hear that ... now, pls can reconfirm that these numbers for 323 are "calculated" / extrapolated? or dyno data ?
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Old 02-12-2005, 06:32 PM   #54
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Hmmm, sell me one for $3000 then, ha! Would be glad to be the first in the U.S. so we can get the ball rolling.

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Hmmm, sell me one for $3000 then, ha! Would be glad to be the first in the U.S. so we can get the ball rolling.

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Samir ... let WA be your launch pad, $3k will make the 1st two kits in the Land of The Free, and both kits in WA !

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Old 02-13-2005, 12:25 PM   #56
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How wll this kit work on a 330 step with headers/cats and cams

and how would it work with a 330 step with just headers/cats
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Old 02-13-2005, 02:15 PM   #57
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This is not correct. The gains we've registered for all E46 models, are in the +30-35% range. 323 is in the 225-230HP, and 325 in the 235-240HP range. We will correct the site.

1: does The SK1 have the same gorgous intake system the lower sk+ system have?


2: if not, is it worth it to wait for the intercooler upgrade which should come with pullies for the higher PSI scine this system is newly designed?

3: lastly...the only thing that bothers me is no software availability...doesnt the car have to be optimized for sure a bolt on upgrade?

AA has software...does these have that option to really dial in the correct tuning?
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This is not correct. The gains we've registered for all E46 models, are in the +30-35% range. 323 is in the 225-230HP, and 325 in the 235-240HP range. We will correct the site.
OK, this sounds better to me. Now I am more interested. 235 to 240 I can live with :-)
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Old 02-13-2005, 04:28 PM   #59
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I am VERY intersted. So how do we get in on this GB? Anyone else out there interested?

Since I, like Wagon Man, have a 323 (2.5l) I would also like to know how the hp figures for the 323 are derived, ie dyno, calculated, etc.
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i am DEFINITELY interested in this kit for the near future. one question is there an air bypass valve included? also are you guys able to modify your piggyback system to be optimized for a bov setup (since you guys have the knowledge and experience and are better off modifying the piggyback than me )
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