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Old 05-05-2005, 10:03 PM   #41
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hahah. watch out for the FULL CF e46 coming soon guys...
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Old 05-06-2005, 10:01 AM   #42
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I wonder how many sheets I would need to cover my entire roof just like the csl. That would be pimp.
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Old 05-06-2005, 10:13 AM   #43
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I've seen the one selling on ebay before. They are stiff sheets. I don't understand how you could wrap anything with them unless its flat

How flexable are these? Not just bending them but being able to wrap something that has curves?
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How flexable are these? Not just bending them but being able to wrap something that has curves?

Carbon Fiber by definition is a carbon/cloth weave that is hardened with an epoxy and usually pollished to make it look nice. I wasn't aware that you could bend it at all once the epoxy had cured. It's like calling something a "bendy" fiberglass. Can this be done with decent results or will the strength of the carbon pull the 3M backing right off, or is the epoxy so thin that it will peel and fall apart over time. I'm not trying to be a hater, but I'm just curious as to how something known for it's incredible stiffness and rigidity can be flexible enough to wrap around anything. (They make formula 1 suspension rods out of carbon, and those aren't bending one bit!)
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I think its a completely different concept here. Instead of using an epoxy or resin, I think there is a substance that is more like a laminate being used. Imagine taking a fabric and laminating it in flexible plastic. Same idea, I think. The idea with these products is that its not being used for structural applications which WOULD require the hardening agents and the CF to be rigid. Instead, this is for cosmetic applications only which do not really require CF to be rigid. In reality, it makes ALOT of sense. Do you really need your interior trim to be impossibly strong? As strong as an F1 racer? No! You just want it to look cool and these sheets seem to accomplish that.

Again, alot is just speculation. So BimmerBlvd, feel free to confirm.
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I've seen the one selling on ebay before. They are stiff sheets. I don't understand how you could wrap anything with them unless its flat

How flexable are these? Not just bending them but being able to wrap something that has curves?
Its hard to wrap stuff that have alot of 3Ds bent.... since the sheets are flat.. and made to do 2D bents only.

I experienced this myself. Good for flat surface if your looking for an alternative for quick CF.
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I doubt that its flexible enough to go around some of the corners/bends on the trim.
I also doubt that the pieces with be big enough to cover some of the pieces.

"otherside" only used 1 sheet to cover both his headlight trim with no problems. These sheets are really flexible. If you have any questiosn you can pm him
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I wonder how many sheets I would need to cover my entire roof just like the csl. That would be pimp.
It wouldn't look right to cover your entire roof because you will see the lines where the cf sheets cut off due to the size. I'm in the process of getting the sheets large enough to cover the roof.
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I've seen the one selling on ebay before. They are stiff sheets. I don't understand how you could wrap anything with them unless its flat

How flexable are these? Not just bending them but being able to wrap something that has curves?
you can easily wrap anything that curves, ask "otherside" if you don't believe me.
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I think its a completely different concept here. Instead of using an epoxy or resin, I think there is a substance that is more like a laminate being used. Imagine taking a fabric and laminating it in flexible plastic. Same idea, I think. The idea with these products is that its not being used for structural applications which WOULD require the hardening agents and the CF to be rigid. Instead, this is for cosmetic applications only which do not really require CF to be rigid. In reality, it makes ALOT of sense. Do you really need your interior trim to be impossibly strong? As strong as an F1 racer? No! You just want it to look cool and these sheets seem to accomplish that.

Again, alot is just speculation. So BimmerBlvd, feel free to confirm.
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I want a sheet for the roof.. that would be cool..
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I've seen the one selling on ebay before. They are stiff sheets. I don't understand how you could wrap anything with them unless its flat

How flexable are these? Not just bending them but being able to wrap something that has curves?
Just do a test wrap with construction paper. If you can do it without wrinkles or holes then it should work. Save the paper to use as the template for cutting out the CF sheet.
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Just do a test wrap with construction paper. If you can do it without wrinkles or holes then it should work. Save the paper to use as the template for cutting out the CF sheet.

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I can't take credit for this idea. I saw the technique used on TV for custom body work.
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im curious to see how this works -
bump for a cheapo way to get carbon fiber-which-is-already-played-out
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Its not an easy job, but with paitience you can do it.... I used a sheet of velum, traced the headlight trim, theres an area where obviously you would have to cut and make a seam, I carefuly used an exacto knife to cut and do it all, and it came out perfect....everybody thats seen it for real, has complimented it.... it was worth it, and you cant beat it for the price... it definitely not a job for everyone, but those who embark on it and take their time on each one will have a good chance of it coming out tight.... one sheet is enough for like 3 tries

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i`m sure if u add a litle heat to it , it would make it a lot easier to work with
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Few more questions.

1.) Will there be sheets with different thicknesses available? I'd think that if there were thinner sheets it'd be even easier to work with.

2.) Can you post a pic of two different sheets side by side? I'd like to see how closely you can get the seams lined up between the different sheets.

3.) ETA on larger sheets? Perhaps sheets with a more rectangular shape?

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Few more questions.

1.) Will there be sheets with different thicknesses available? I'd think that if there were thinner sheets it'd be even easier to work with.

2.) Can you post a pic of two different sheets side by side? I'd like to see how closely you can get the seams lined up between the different sheets.

3.) ETA on larger sheets? Perhaps sheets with a more rectangular shape?

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1. Only 1 thickness currently available
2. sorry no pics at the moment of the sheets side by site
3. no larger sheets at the moment
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