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Old 11-01-2005, 09:34 AM   #1
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Ball Joint for $300.00 plus labor! help help help!

I have a 01 e46 M3. I have dropped the ride with H&R springs and it has been a month or two since the drop.

I took the car to get alignment and good year told me that the ball joint is broken and needs to be replaced.

Then i took it to the dealership and they told me the same thing.

Dealership is asking me for $300.00 plus the labor.

How hard is to change the ball joint and where could i get good price for it? should i replace it with aftermarket parts?

Is this save to drive?

HELP HELP HELP!
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Old 11-01-2005, 09:46 AM   #2
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If it is a ball joint in the front the entire control arm needs to be replaced - there are two BJs in each arm and new ones cannot be pressed into the arm. They are likely quoting you for two control arms (they tend to replace them in pairs) and a bushing set - 300 in parts alone is pretty close on that.

Unless something happened during the installation of the springs, I wouldn't blame them on the problem. There are people here who have done CAs two or three times already - the BJs and bushings are weak points.

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Old 11-01-2005, 01:20 PM   #3
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thanks! so does anyone knows how to replace the control arm? hard? medium? easy?

I have most of the tools and i am pretty handy with cars.
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Old 11-01-2005, 03:35 PM   #4
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I'll copy the text I posted on another thread currently running here re CAs:

Removing the CA requires a ball joint separator as well as some extra Metric tools (and some brute force too). Depends on your skill level - not for the faint of heart though.

I thought there was a DIY here - if not, refer to the one I wrote for my "local": http://www.tuningemotion.com/forum/...read.php?t=1990. The info is down around post #17.

BTW, check on EBay for control arms. I've seen pairs for sale of OEM units, and the prices were pretty good. Bottom line is the BJs obviously not lasting very long on dealership OEM ones, could these one be much worse?


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Old 11-01-2005, 04:33 PM   #5
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There is!

There is a DIY on this is the DIY forum. I was thinking about doing this, but am REALLY glad i didnt. I took my 330Ci to a friends shop and watched them replace the bushings, arms, tires, and do an alignment. This is a pretty tough job to me. I wouldnt have been able to do the bushings part at all. I paid about $300 for my install. (Alignment/tire setup was free, courtesy of my friend)
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Old 11-01-2005, 06:13 PM   #6
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Bavarian Auto sells replacement CA's that allow you to change just the BJ.
On top of that the bushings can be ordered with urethane which gives a better ride and lasts longer.

When mine go that's what I'm ordering
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Old 11-29-2005, 01:36 PM   #7
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My dealer is asking $1305!!!

He says that it must be done in pairs and that they replace the control arm.

OUCH...

Only my left side ball joint is loose.

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Old 11-30-2005, 12:37 PM   #8
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Turner Motorsports changed mine, both sides arms and bushings $350 parts and 2 hours labor. Included balancing bote front wheels. Such a bargain and why I will keep going back for stuff I don't want to do.
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Old 11-30-2005, 05:03 PM   #9
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My dealer is asking $1305!!!

He says that it must be done in pairs and that they replace the control arm.

OUCH...

Only my left side ball joint is loose.

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Which dealer did you go to? In the GTA?

I bought my parts from Maranello in Woodbridge - the RS control arm was around $230CAD and the bushing set was around $135CAD, so add a second arm and labour and yup, you are in the right ball park.

The arms don't need to be done in pairs IF you already have the current type installed. The early E46 had a different style of arm (non-webbed) - in that case you need to do both so they match. The bushings however should be done in pairs (especially if they have a bit of time on them). The problem is the bushings only really survive one installation onto an arm, so if the dealer leaves an old arm in place then it fails a few months later, they'd need to sell you another set of bushings.

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Old 12-03-2005, 06:19 PM   #10
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Which dealer did you go to? In the GTA?
I took my car to Town and Country on Kennedy...

it is a 99 328i...

quite the drag to spend 1500 with taxes....


anyone know of a more resonable way to get this service in the GTA??

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Old 12-03-2005, 07:36 PM   #11
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You can try Cross Avenue in Oakville - a bunch of members on TE (our local forum, see sig) recommend them highly. Not sure what the price will be but they do good work and apparently are reasonable.

Even from the dealer the price would be about $600CAD for the parts, then it depends on how much labour you get charged. Actually I thought your original quote was with taxes - $1500 total, that's pretty pricey.

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