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Old 08-26-2014, 10:54 AM   #1
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I was on your website earlier today looking at tunes for my car. I noticed you had a tune that ran about 350 (which is comparable to Shark so not unreasonable). I then noticed you had a catless option. My car has headers, so this would be a great option for me.
My question is why on earth do you charge an extra $200 just for a different version of software? It's not like it costs more to send the email with a different file included. It also doesn't say anywhere whether or not it clears the CEL. Hope to hear from you guys!
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Old 08-26-2014, 04:43 PM   #2
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I was on your website earlier today looking at tunes for my car. I noticed you had a tune that ran about 350 (which is comparable to Shark so not unreasonable). I then noticed you had a catless option. My car has headers, so this would be a great option for me.
My question is why on earth do you charge an extra $200 just for a different version of software? It's not like it costs more to send the email with a different file included. It also doesn't say anywhere whether or not it clears the CEL. Hope to hear from you guys!
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Old 08-26-2014, 07:57 PM   #3
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Old 08-26-2014, 08:03 PM   #4
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It got turned into a PM because the answer is silly. The extra $200 dollars is because it's supposedly more difficult to make that tune. Which ignores the fact that once it's been created, it no longer requires anything else. It's not like they have to do any more labor on a per vehicle basis. It's literally sending a cord and an email. I'll just flash EU2 to delete my CEL and reap the benefits of my headers over their 7HP (@7000 RPM mind you) gain.

"The development cost that goes into these tunes is reflected in the price structure. The difference in the tune is the intellectual property (time that was taken to unlock these calibration settings) that's required to install the Off-Road calibration."
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Seems logical to me. Say it took 100hrs for the base tune to be developed and to recoup this time/money for labor said tune is 350$. It then say takes an additional 60hrs to crack the CEL, then how is it not fair to charge more for the CEL ($200)+tune ($350) compared to the tune by itself? I see it like when you purchase Microsoft Office, the business one has more features thus costs more as it took more time to create. The packaging is the same, so it doesn't technically cost most to create physically.
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I was on your website earlier today looking at tunes for my car. I noticed you had a tune that ran about 350 (which is comparable to Shark so not unreasonable). I then noticed you had a catless option. My car has headers, so this would be a great option for me.
My question is why on earth do you charge an extra $200 just for a different version of software? It's not like it costs more to send the email with a different file included. It also doesn't say anywhere whether or not it clears the CEL. Hope to hear from you guys!
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Seems logical to me. Say it took 100hrs for the base tune to be developed and to recoup this time/money for labor said tune is 350$. It then say takes an additional 60hrs to crack the CEL, then how is it not fair to charge more for the CEL ($200)+tune ($350) compared to the tune by itself? I see it like when you purchase Microsoft Office, the business one has more features thus costs more as it took more time to create. The packaging is the same, so it doesn't technically cost most to create physically.
Hello DonaldE,

Thank you for the post, I am glad to see your in the market for Performance Software for your E46. You have asked a fair question on the additional $200.00 charge for Off Road Catless Header tune option. If you do not want Performance Software and just want the Off Road Optional Rear O2 Bypass the Software just by itself is $200.00. If you are Purchasing both our Performance Software $350.00 with our Off Road Catless Header Option is only $100.00 more not the $200.00 Price. Hopefully that clears up the confusion. If you have any questions please feel free to reply or contact me directly.

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Does the "Off Road Optional Rear O2 Bypass" also give the option of removing the secondary air pump?
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Does the "Off Road Optional Rear O2 Bypass" also give the option of removing the secondary air pump?
Same goes for the Secondary Air Pump Delete.

SAP Delete Just by itself is $200.00

w/ Software Tuning $100.00 Additional Option.
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Christ. Really a la carte eh?
I suppose I'll just flash EU2 for free in order to save $300 then possibly consider your Performance Software
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Christ. Really a la carte eh?
I suppose I'll just flash EU2 for free in order to save $300 then possibly consider your Performance Software
Thank you for the quick responses.
Ya, not worth it, plus i just found the "aggieE46" thread where the aa tune
lost power on the dyno compared the shark tune.
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I was on your website earlier today looking at tunes for my car. I noticed you had a tune that ran about 350 (which is comparable to Shark so not unreasonable). I then noticed you had a catless option. My car has headers, so this would be a great option for me.
My question is why on earth do you charge an extra $200 just for a different version of software? It's not like it costs more to send the email with a different file included. It also doesn't say anywhere whether or not it clears the CEL. Hope to hear from you guys!
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Your name sounds firmilliar... NTBC? M parallels?

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Ya, not worth it, plus i just found the "aggieE46" thread where the aa tune
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Yeah, I've seen that as well. Aggie is a local boy here in Dallas too
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