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Old 01-22-2005, 02:51 PM   #1
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m3 & sc 3 series 1/4 times

Ive been wondering if a sc 3 series would beat a m3. I mean technically they could but I havent read anything about a fi 3 series beating an m3.
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Old 01-22-2005, 06:58 PM   #2
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yes, hell mike benvo, has a 330 with cams, pulleys, 3.46 diff, shark, intake, exhaust, and he stayed with and m3 at the last meet so picture a sced 330, with im gunna guess here like 325, conservative estimate, depends on the amount of boost you want to go with so yes it could easily beat an m3.
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FI 330's are pushinfg 350 to 360 at the flywheel... That is much mnore than an M3 but what's the point? That only takes care of straight line accel. The M3 has an LSB and superior handling... IMHO an S/C'd 330 is a more civilized car and is a better daily driver. The M3 is in a class by itself and really can't be compared to any 330.
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FI 330's are pushinfg 350 to 360 at the flywheel... That is much mnore than an M3 but what's the point? That only takes care of straight line accel. The M3 has an LSB and superior handling... IMHO an S/C'd 330 is a more civilized car and is a better daily driver. The M3 is in a class by itself and really can't be compared to any 330.
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Old 01-23-2005, 01:35 PM   #5
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Oh you mean lsd?? Well we can always add lsd to our cars too. Thats no biggy. As far as handling im pretty sure with performance modifications we can handle just as good.
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The question posted only referenced 1/4 miles times. IMHO apples and oranges... two different cars engineered for 2 different needs. Would someone wanting the power and prestige of an M3 "downgrade" the suspension to make it a more comfortable daily driver? I agree that the 330 can outhandle the M3 with the right mods. I chose the 330 because I could tailor "up" to the combination of ride quality and performance. However I still maintain that the 2 cars are VASTLY different and should not be compared. For me it is the same as trying to build up a 330 to be an E55.. At the end of the day no matter how many mods are installed you still have a 330 and not an M3.

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The question posted only referenced 1/4 miles times. IMHO apples and oranges... two different cars engineered for 2 different needs. Would someone wanting the power and prestige of an M3 "downgrade" the suspension to make it a more comfortable daily driver? I agree that the 330 can outhandle the M3 with the right mods. I chose the 330 because I could tailor "up" to the combination of ride quality and performance. However I still maintain that the 2 cars are VASTLY different and should not be compared. For me it is the same as trying to build up a 330 to be an E55.. At the end of the day no matter how many mods are installed you still have a 330 and not an M3.

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Did a 4dr M3 exist? I read it in a C&D article once, the 1997 e36 m3 sedan.
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Did a 4dr M3 exist? I read it in a C&D article once, the 1997 e36 m3 sedan.
Yeah, there was a sedan version of the E36 M3.

Back to drag times. Even though people boast their S/C 330's big power, I have never seen any 1/4 mile times posted. I would like to see what they are running.
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Yeah, there was a sedan version of the E36 M3.

Back to drag times. Even though people boast their S/C 330's big power, I have never seen any 1/4 mile times posted. I would like to see what they are running.

The numbers aren't that great without the LSD. The 0-60 times are poor which kills their et. There are smatterings of 1/4 miles times but nothing close to "real". I have heard anything from low 13's to high 12's Anyone got time slips? ESS lists the 330 ZHP S/C at 13.07sec. What we get here on this board is "I killed this", "I killed that". In my opinion people are going to the track and pull crappy times so they say nothing. It is easier to take down a car on the road, too many other factors involved. We never see any posts about dropping track times at Willow Springs etc either. Same reason, they do all this work to their cars but really cannot drive them. This particular forum may be different but as a whole I do not see anyone posting track times. I got punked at a go kart track by a friend of mine. Matching cars, I had his car the next race, and he punked me both times. It's the driver....
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I believe I remember seeing someone with a asa sc time slip once it was around 13.1 i believe.
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FI 330's are pushing 350 at the crank.

Thats like 10 more than the M.

Do your self a favor. If you want a 1/4 mile car, get a 99 LS1 camaro for 8 grand and stick heads and a cam on it. For under 20 grand (including the price of a car) you will have about 410HP at the pavement. With a good driver you will be in the low 12s
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FI 330's are pushing 350 at the crank.

Thats like 10 more than the M.

Do your self a favor. If you want a 1/4 mile car, get a 99 LS1 camaro for 8 grand and stick heads and a cam on it. For under 20 grand (including the price of a car) you will have about 410HP at the pavement. With a good driver you will be in the low 12s
or he can do whatever he wants to do with his car... if he wants to drag race his bmw... so be it...
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FI 330's are pushing 350 at the crank.

Thats like 10 more than the M.

Do your self a favor. If you want a 1/4 mile car, get a 99 LS1 camaro for 8 grand and stick heads and a cam on it. For under 20 grand (including the price of a car) you will have about 410HP at the pavement. With a good driver you will be in the low 12s
Old news check post #3. You missed the point of the question IMO. BTW we own BMW's not GM junk.. major difference IMO
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FI 330's are pushing 350 at the crank.

Thats like 10 more than the M.

Do your self a favor. If you want a 1/4 mile car, get a 99 LS1 camaro for 8 grand and stick heads and a cam on it. For under 20 grand (including the price of a car) you will have about 410HP at the pavement. With a good driver you will be in the low 12s
No one said anything about wanting a 1/4 car. I was just wondering what the times were like compared to each other. If I wanted a 1/4 mile car I would get a bubble and have it running 9's with max 6 g's into it. I dont see why someone assumes I want a 1/4 mile car just cause im asking what they do in the 1/4 mile. Im pretty sure people every now and than take there cars to the strip to run 1/4 mile just to see what their times are. Doesnt mean they want a quarter mile car.
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nice... for a SK+ and a step...
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FI 330's are pushing 350 at the crank.

Thats like 10 more than the M.

Do your self a favor. If you want a 1/4 mile car, get a 99 LS1 camaro for 8 grand and stick heads and a cam on it. For under 20 grand (including the price of a car) you will have about 410HP at the pavement. With a good driver you will be in the low 12s
That's a bad attitude. BMWs make fantastic late model drag strip terrors.
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That's a bad attitude. BMWs make fantastic late model drag strip terrors.
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