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Old 11-29-2005, 01:23 PM   #21
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Wow, that looks awesome.
Actually, I'm gonna have a double-din setup like you very soon but I'll have an eclipse radio though.
Although I'm not a person who has good mechanical knowledges like you, I'll try to install it myself.
I'm pretty sure about to modify that airvent stuff but I don't have any ideas for factory wires that which wires are for speakers, a speed sensor, a power and etc.
If I could get that wiring info, I might be able to get the double-din done by myself.
Any hepful info will be very appreciated.
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Wiring is the easy part.

http://www.projectbimmer.com/BmwWiring.htm
http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showpos...26&postcount=5

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Old 11-29-2005, 11:43 PM   #22
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Rich, you da man.
Great info although I'm still not very cleared about wiring.
Is there anyone would write up whole wiring process with the pics for aftermarket double-din NAV units?
It'll be greatly appreciated.
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Old 12-01-2005, 11:29 AM   #23
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I've got last yr's model of that radio. Have had it in for over a yr and a half now. The original material that was used on my vents did not hold up and over time warped like mad. This past weekend I began to work on a new solution. Using a different plastic and duct tape, I got it pretty good. My next step it to make a glass mold from the plastic/duct tape contraption I got there now and make a "Cap" so to speak, all one piece w/no leaks. I retained the arm behind it so the flapper doors are operational.

It's hard to tell from the pics, do you have anymore close ups? I think I've got more material cut away than you do but your radio appears to be sitting more level than mine, where mine is angled up slightly, so I'm not sure how that's working, but it looks great. I don't want to put too much time on reworking mine cause once the new Eclipse radio comes out with a Sirius connection, I'm ditching my Kenwood and moving to that, so I may have to rework it again and don't want to do it 2x in the matter of a few months.
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Old 12-02-2005, 12:04 AM   #24
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Nice install.

Does anyone have a pic of the assembly pre cut so I can get a better idea of the control arm?
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Old 12-02-2005, 12:27 AM   #25
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i'm lost..

what is that little box for? support of the double din unit?.. or it redirects air flow?.. huh?.... how was the vent system modified?

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Old 12-04-2005, 09:35 AM   #26
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if anyone is interested I'm selling a brand new Kenwood DDX-7017 with KN-DV4100 over in the Classified section. Here's a pic of mine in my car with the kit I bought from Rich.

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Old 12-04-2005, 07:31 PM   #27
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Great installation! Do you have any more pictures of the vent modifications you completed?
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Can anyone tell me if this part:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...112&sasel=&id=

is the same as the part that is cut below?



How much will this thing cost from the dealer? Just curious in case I FUBAR mine up.
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Can anyone tell me if this part:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...112&sasel=&id=

is the same as the part that is cut below?



How much will this thing cost from the dealer? Just curious in case I FUBAR mine up.

Yes it is, they sell on ebay all the time.
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Old 01-03-2006, 08:17 PM   #30
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Yes it is, they sell on ebay all the time.
To replace that part, you would have to remove the entire dash assembly, to take out the cut heat/vent box and replace it with a new one. Not a simple operation from what I've read. In other words...measure twice, cut once.

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To replace that part, you would have to remove the entire dash assembly, to take out the cut heat/vent box and replace it with a new one. Not a simple operation from what I've read. In other words...measure twice, cut once.

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Yes, it looks very complicated to remove. At least I'd like to get one and do science experiments on it first. So when I cut, I know what's behind there.

I'm still debating this.

BTW, how hard is it to remove the dash assembly?
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If you remove the sunglass pocket/carrier, hvac controls and radio, you have all the access space you need.

The main duct has a cover plate in the front that can be easily removed by undoing 4 clips. You can then see what is inside and decide whether you want to do it or not. You can cut the top portion of the plate on a workbench and then cut the rest of the ducts in the car using tin snips (you could use a dremel, but it would get a bit messy).

Once you remove the cover, you will be able to see the two dampers that control air flow to the driver's and passenger's side foot areas. The two dampers are connected by a plastic rod. If you want to install a double-din in the middle of the hole and make it look good, you would have to remove the rod. Most people remove the rod and leave the dampers permanently open or closed, since they won't be able to automatically move.

If you do want to retain full functionality of the dampers, you have to relocate the rod to the lower part of the dampers, which involves cutting the dampers, cutting the rod supports and reworking the mounts in the lower part of the dampers. You still need to trim a small corner on the dampers so that they clear the radio, but the corner would probably allow a "leak" of only 5%-10% air.

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Yes, it looks very complicated to remove. At least I'd like to get one and do science experiments on it first. So when I cut, I know what's behind there.

I'm still debating this.

BTW, how hard is it to remove the dash assembly?
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Yes it is, they sell on ebay all the time.

I was told by the dealer that's a $2k part and requires the whole dash, and then some to be replaced...
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I was told by the dealer that's a $2k part and requires the whole dash, and then some to be replaced...

I see those selling on ebay for under $100 all the time. And nothing else needs to be replaced. I bet every salvage yard has one.
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I see those selling on ebay for under $100 all the time. And nothing else needs to be replaced. I bet every salvage yard has one.

What I was told...my dash was replaced..while it was asked I asked about replacing this part, cuz I was moving away from the dbl din...dealer said it was 2k and that it was still a pain to do w/the dash out of the car, it was behind some braces or something...

Anyways..I am tradin in the M for an X tomorrow..so I'll have a new project soon!
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The $2000 is probably mostly labor, since they have to take the whole front of the car apart.
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I see those selling on ebay for under $100 all the time. And nothing else needs to be replaced. I bet every salvage yard has one.
One just sold for $100 with 1 bid.
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Once you remove the cover, you will be able to see the two dampers that control air flow to the driver's and passenger's side foot areas. The two dampers are connected by a plastic rod.
So if I remove the damper rod, the only thing that will happen is that air will always be blowing into the footwell?

I have sweaty feet and run the air conditioner most of the time so that would actually be a plus!
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If you just remove the rod that's in the way, the passenger's side damper would still work (you would need to cut a small corner off so it fully opens). The driver's side damper would not move at all.

You could leave the driver's side damper in any position you want and it will stay there. So you could leave it fully open (again, you might need to cut a notch in the corner), midway open or fully closed (no cutting required for midway or fully closed).

Take the cover off one of these days and take a looksy. No harm done with just looking.

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So if I remove the damper rod, the only thing that will happen is that air will always be blowing into the footwell?

I have sweaty feet and run the air conditioner most of the time so that would actually be a plus!
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i am doing adouble din install and i cam more ocnfised by this post then I was before, what exactly do i need to CUT to get the unit to fit. Second i dont care if the vents are always open, if i remove the rod in the open position then the air flow will be on all the time and ill still get good airflow?
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