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Old 12-14-2005, 12:23 PM   #141
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thanks for that video....looks good
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Old 12-14-2005, 12:38 PM   #142
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Thanks Matt! We all appreciate the info. Looking forward to receiving the lights!
Right, we have two more cars we're going to play with today When it's ok, we'll go ahead and send you set
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Old 12-14-2005, 12:38 PM   #143
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The irony is that we are the first to have this on the market, first to have a working example, and first to show a video of it with a production car and production units, but we are also the first to be attacked by an unscrupulous supposed distributor.
I don't mean to be a thorn here Matt, but there was a video posted months ago of Jim testing the taillights, and yours are not YET on the market.

I don't know whats going on with the recall business, I honestly don't care, I have bigger and better things to worry about, for your sake I hope that it is resolved and that there really is no safety concernfor anyone who purchses them from you.

And just out of curiosity, the outer LED's that it seems everyone wants on with the brakes, wouldn't the adaptive braking hookup just be another wire, so worst case scenario (if there is a second resistor for the second set of brake lights) you would have to run a relay and trigger it from the brake lights to power those outside LED's, right?
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The irony is that we are the first to have this on the market, first to have a working example, and first to show a video of it with a production car and production units, but we are also the first to be attacked by an unscrupulous supposed distributor.
Sorry dude, not the first to have a working unit.
http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=286385
check the post.

You may be the first video, but that is it. Apexcone has been testing these since August. You can buy these from Eagle Eyes, but Apexcone(Jim) has been doing his R&D and working with them since day 1. Give credit where credit needs to be given. Without Jim, these wouldn't be working correctly on the market as it is now. Granted DEPO came out with the first for the aftermarket scene but those didn't work correctly.
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Old 12-14-2005, 01:24 PM   #145
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Matt regardless of the history of all this controversy I thank you for quickly responding to my question. I have no doubts that you guys will test till there's no more testing to do and have a product that is just as reputable as your company(A++). If you don't mind me asking this question "How can anyone perform a test that can damage an ECU over time (1year +/-)?" I don't understand how anyone will be able to determine how a product will damage electrical circuitry unless it's tested in real time (everyday use). Thanks for your time.

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Old 12-14-2005, 01:28 PM   #146
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Nice video guys. Glad to see they are finally working. Can't wait to get some for my car. The music is Rob Thomas for anyone wondering - This is how a heart breaks.
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Old 12-14-2005, 01:35 PM   #147
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Let's make it more clear.

1) this is a PRODUCTION UNIT. Not a tester.
2) the car is ON, this shows it works when the car is ON.
3) This also shows both sets of lights working.

Yes, you can buy them from Eagle Eyes, no one is disputing that fact. Let's end the speculation about what can and can't be done with these lights until we can determine what is the correct wiring for every part of them.

Thanks for keeping watch for everyone
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Matt regardless of the history of all this controversy I thank you for quickly responding to my question. I have no doubts that you guys will test till there's no more testing to do and have a product that is just as reputable as your company(A++). If you don't mind me asking this question "How can anyone perform a test that can damage an ECU over time (1year +/-)?" I don't understand how anyone will be able to determine how a product will damage electrical circuitry unless it's tested in real time (everyday use). Thanks for your time.

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Roger that, good question.
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You're absolutely right, no one can perform a year long test with a year long working product no? So if you spend 8 months working on test samples, it would make sense to wait 1 year to see if there is any damage to the any additional parts.

So, then why is everyone claiming to release this as fully working and then claiming that there will be long term problems if you buy from us? Wouldn't those long term problems also arise on other products purchased elsewhere.

So, we are more than happy to continue to provide you up to the minute updates.
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Old 12-14-2005, 02:30 PM   #150
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will do . Looking foward to when your testing is finished and when all speculation is disproved. Thanks now all my questions are answered.

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So, then why is everyone claiming to release this as fully working and then claiming that there will be long term problems if you buy from us? Wouldn't those long term problems also arise on other products purchased elsewhere.

So, we are more than happy to continue to provide you up to the minute updates.
Thanks Matt...I'm with ^, all my questions are answered.
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Thanks Matt...I'm with ^, all my questions are answered.
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Ok I don't know too much about LED's but I know that they are supposed to have the reputation of never going out (rated for ?? hours of use). My question is in the small instance that it might happen (LED blows) can you change the individual LED or will there have to be a complete replacement of the board w/ all the LED's?
Second question which is what I really wanted to ask. Is it possible to custom order tail lights w/ different rear LED's (ex: 6000K indicator bulbs). I'm aware of DOT standards etc etc. That being said if it can be made( cause I know you guys are the lighting specialists) can it be made? How much would it cost? Are there any additional risks (that you can think of) associated w/ doing something like this? Thanks

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Here's the real story guys....lies and more lies!

http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthr...=317314&page=3



Matt, why can't you be straight up and forth coming? Why did you say that Jim made this whole recall up?

How shady can you be...I lost all credibility in you and your business.
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Why can't you be straight up and forth coming? Why did you say that Jim made this whole recall up?

How shady can you be...I lost all credibility in you and your business.
First of all that recall is to Apexcone, not to us. That recall states that the units will be returned that were prototypes that were sent to them. We were never sent prototypes. We were sent the real thing by the good people of Eagle Eyes. We have nothing to hide, please come and visit our place, you'll see for yourself how many units we have.

We will have a formal statement regarding the blatant attack exhibited today shortly. There were absolutely no lies on this.

http://www.autowerks.com/temp/ledrecall.jpg <-- read this letter, it's a recall to Jim to remove his prototypes from the market, there is no mention of Umnitza in there at all. Plus, this is dated PRIOR to us receiving our units. Lose faith all you want, these are the real units.

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First of all that recall is to Apexcone, not to us. That recall states that the units will be returned that were prototypes that were sent to them. We were never sent prototypes. We were sent the real thing by the good people of Eagle Eyes. We have nothing to hide, please come and visit our place, you'll see for yourself how many units we have.

We will have a formal statement regarding the blatant attack exhibited today shortly. There were absolutely no lies on this.

http://www.autowerks.com/temp/ledrecall.jpg <-- read this letter, it's a recall to Jim to remove his prototypes from the market, there is no mention of Umnitza in there at all. Plus, this is dated PRIOR to us receiving our units. Lose faith all you want, these are the real units.
Why are you denying it??

You and your company are shady..
Jim please get Eagle Eyes on the forums or even better ask the people at Eagle eyes to send a letter to Matt and a copy to Autowerks so they can post it on here...
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The only shadiness is the constant attacks from Jim Powell.
We didn't attack anyone, we provided a product that was lower priced, instead of being happy about it, you will enjoy buying for MORE money a product that has supposedly been recalled.

How come the recall suddenly happened when we received production units?
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The only shadiness is the constant attacks from Jim Powell.
We didn't attack anyone, we provided a product that was lower priced, instead of being happy about it, you will enjoy buying for MORE money a product that has supposedly been recalled.

How come the recall suddenly happened when we received production units?
I never said you attacked anybody. You are just remaining silent to recalls period.

Let's wait for Kevin @ Eagle Eyes to tells us what is going on.
Fair enough?
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