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Old 02-17-2006, 06:16 PM   #61
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Lexus can pull 305 HP out of a NA 3.5L but BMW can only manage the same HP and 15lb/ft more from a bi-turbo 3.5L?
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Old 02-17-2006, 06:16 PM   #62
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that wasnt the question i asked. i never said rwd was not good. i said an awd version of the car would be cool like the current xi's but with the new motor.

so back to the question i asked, do you not consider the 911 turbo a proper sports car?
Because all AWD cars compensate for driver inadequacy. If a driver is good enough, and all other things being equal, a rwd car should be able to track better than awd.
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Old 02-17-2006, 06:19 PM   #63
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i guess all the guys on this board with xi's dont drive real bmw's, of course IYO
Now don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that their cars are POS's or anything, and I think it was a smart move for BMW to offer all-wheel drive for those consumers that need it/want it.
But IMO the true BMW experience starts with rear-wheel drive.
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Old 02-17-2006, 06:21 PM   #64
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Now don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that their cars are POS's or anything, and I think it was a smart move for BMW to offer all-wheel drive for those consumers that need it/want it.
But IMO the true BMW experience starts with rear-wheel drive.
i completely agree to that
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Old 02-17-2006, 06:27 PM   #65
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Lexus can pull 305 HP out of a NA 3.5L but BMW can only manage the same HP and 15lb/ft more from a bi-turbo 3.5L?

its gonna be first series of turbo engines, i guess they dont wanna push it too much, reliability issue

and it cant be same/faster than the M, cause then they will pwn them selves

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all other things being equal, a rwd car should be able to track better than awd.
true, given good conditions on the track


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Because all AWD cars compensate for driver inadequacy.
not true, there are many instances where power delivered to four wheels offers superior traction which may result in better track times.
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Old 02-17-2006, 06:37 PM   #67
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Lexus can pull 305 HP out of a NA 3.5L but BMW can only manage the same HP and 15lb/ft more from a bi-turbo 3.5L?
The N54 is a 3.0L, not 3.5L.
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Old 02-17-2006, 06:42 PM   #68
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The N54 is a 3.0L, not 3.5L.
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I thought the turbo engine will only be available in Europe and Asia. In the US, the 335i will be NA and not turbo. That's what I read in other forums. Any truth to this?
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I thought the turbo engine will only be available in Europe and Asia. In the US, the 335i will be NA and not turbo. That's what I read in other forums. Any truth to this?
No one knows for sure yet.
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No one knows for sure yet.
A HIGHLY unlikely rumor, BMW would not devote the reasons to redesign from ground-up a "big 6" just for this market; the current motor geometry is the same as its been since the 80s, and it cant go much beyond 3.3L.

the "335" designation comes from the old "745" turbo; it was a 3.5L Turbo-6, BMW named it the 745 because the power was considered equivalent to 4.5L of NA power.
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Lexus can pull 305 HP out of a NA 3.5L but BMW can only manage the same HP and 15lb/ft more from a bi-turbo 3.5L?
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As Akhbaat said, it's a 3.0L
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Old 02-18-2006, 02:45 PM   #78
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It's a 3.0L plus it's natural that they won't make an engine that will put out so much horsepower out of the box to beat the E46 M3 right away. Porsche didn't make the Cayman any faster than it is for good reasons.

Some of it is wishful thinking, but I think this engine will be super-reliable and super-friendly (no lag and such) while putting out a great deal of power.
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it's sad - for years the BMW naturally aspirated engines have been outperforming Mercedes' cars which often are supercharged (kompressor models, all of the current //AMG models). Mercedes has just announced that it will be making normally aspirated 6.3L engines for the new ML63, S63, CL63, CLS63, and SLK63 over the next two years. And Now BMW is going supercharged.

what's wrong with this picture?
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