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Old 03-13-2006, 07:15 PM   #121
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I would not want a turbo BMW unless it was a diesel....at least for the first 3 production years. Be prepared to have your car sit at dealerships for a while.
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Old 03-13-2006, 07:51 PM   #122
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I would not want a turbo BMW unless it was a diesel....at least for the first 3 production years. Be prepared to have your car sit at dealerships for a while.

if this comes out in the us ill by it in a heartbeet i dont care if it has problems.
engine looks rediculous
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Old 03-13-2006, 08:02 PM   #123
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but can I put it in my car? Prob has better trannys to no torque sensor bullshit for the autos
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Old 03-14-2006, 02:02 AM   #124
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Does Anyone Think Bmw Will Offer The Ability To Upgrade The Turbos And Still Have It Under Warranty. Like The Csl Version Of The M3, Which Has More Horsepower And Torque, Will They Have The Option To Beef Up The Turbo?? What Do You Guys Think??
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Old 03-14-2006, 04:52 AM   #125
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I would not want a turbo BMW unless it was a diesel....at least for the first 3 production years. Be prepared to have your car sit at dealerships for a while.
And this assertion is based on what evidence?
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Old 03-14-2006, 10:25 AM   #126
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Does Anyone Think Bmw Will Offer The Ability To Upgrade The Turbos And Still Have It Under Warranty. Like The Csl Version Of The M3, Which Has More Horsepower And Torque, Will They Have The Option To Beef Up The Turbo?? What Do You Guys Think??
Nope. It'd be too close in performance to the M3.
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Old 03-14-2006, 10:48 AM   #127
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Does Anyone Think Bmw Will Offer The Ability To Upgrade The Turbos And Still Have It Under Warranty. Like The Csl Version Of The M3, Which Has More Horsepower And Torque, Will They Have The Option To Beef Up The Turbo?? What Do You Guys Think??
I just gotta ask, doesnt it take a really long time to type every word capitalized? No offense, just something I wondered.
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Old 03-14-2006, 11:35 AM   #128
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I just gotta ask, doesnt it take a really long time to type every word capitalized? No offense, just something I wondered.
I need to know as well.
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Old 03-14-2006, 11:39 AM   #129
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I don't think it would take too much longer if you're a good typer like myself, but then again I'm not sure why you would want to capitalize every letter.

..OK this is getting OT
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Old 03-14-2006, 03:30 PM   #130
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the new 335 would be a perfect replacment for my outdated E46 330i.

As much as BMW reliability scares me, a Turbo BMW screams "leave me alone" when it comes to messing with the engine. For cost and reliabiity, the only mods this 335 will be getting is suspension and rims. I can already see BMW denying warranty claims based on simple bolt on mods - and you know the 1st generation of 335s will have bugs regardless.
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Old 03-14-2006, 03:39 PM   #131
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The whole reason BMW decided to make the engine forced induction is to make more power while making it more efficient as opposed to using a larger engine. I don't think there could possibly be any huge deterrence to buying a first year model. If anything I think BMW will have sorted out the new 3's bugs with their new coupes.
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Old 03-14-2006, 04:59 PM   #132
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bmw going turbo on a non-diesel engine...that's like audi and vw saying that they're not going to offer the 2.0T model

It's interesting how in the last generation, the mki IS300s could have dominated the e46s with a 2jzgte (twin turbo) swap, but they chose not to. Now, Toyota comes up with a v6 and more displacement to dominate the 330s, but then BMW decides to stick 2 more turbos onto their current 3.0 inline block to counter it.
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Old 03-14-2006, 08:23 PM   #133
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And this assertion is based on what evidence?
Ummm....on bmws flawless reputation of first runs.

Or maybe the fact that BMW has never produced a mass market turbo performance car? (Not diesel)
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Ummm....on bmws flawless reputation of first runs.

Or maybe the fact that BMW has never produced a mass market turbo performance car? (Not diesel)
Wrong. The 2002 Turbo, for one, is a well known BMW product of the 1970s.

Then there's the turbo E23:

"The 745i was a special high-performance model offered in left-hand-drive European markets between 1979 and 1986. It was originally fitted with a specially-prepared 3.2L type-M30 six cylinder engine and a turbocharger. In 1984 the engine grew to 3.5 liters. These cars were all built with automatic transmissions and could be ordered with exotic options such as heated front and rear power seats, seat heaters, water buffalo hide upholstery, and special wood trim options.

A different 745i was built for the South Africa market, perhaps because the turbocharger on the European-market 745i could not be installed in right-hand-drive versions of the car. This car was fitted with the 286hp dual-camshaft 24-valve type-M88 Motorsport engine (with a Bosch ML-Jetronic fuel injection system) as used in the M1, M635i, and M5. 192 of these cars were built between 1984 and 1986, fitted with either an automatic transmission or a 5-speed 'sport' gearbox."

Furthermore, though the company has had trouble with electronics (on higher end models) and other small components (trim pieces, mainly), BMW's engines are well regarded as some of the finest and most reliable in the industry. The N52, for example (currently used in the E90), uses a fairly exotic magnesium block (as anybody with any background in chemistry knows, magnesium does not react well with water, which necessitates a special design to avoid cooling fluids from coming into contact with the magnesium portion of the block) as well as an electric water pump, and this engine has been in production since the fall of 2004 with no issues. Turbocharging? Elementary.

You clearly do not know enough about the history of the BMW marque to be making such assumptions...sorry.
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Old 03-14-2006, 09:07 PM   #135
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And how many of those cars were made? Hardly what I call mainstream. Hey dont take my word for it. Wait until they come out, and we'll see who is right.
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Old 03-14-2006, 09:11 PM   #136
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Ummm....on bmws flawless reputation of first runs.

Or maybe the fact that BMW has never produced a mass market turbo performance car? (Not diesel)
The 3 liter 330 was introduced in 2001. There have been no reports of problems with the new engine over the last 5 years.
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Old 03-30-2006, 11:32 PM   #137
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The 3 liter 330 was introduced in 2001. There have been no reports of problems with the new engine over the last 5 years.
This is true, coming from a guy who owned a a 2001 330i with absolutely NO problems(where as my ZHP has has TONS of problems)
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Old 03-31-2006, 01:30 PM   #138
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