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Old 03-02-2006, 10:39 PM   #1
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Question about shakes in general

Okay most of us agree ON is the best Whey out there.. And we know we should take our protein shakes directly after workout.

However,
What about taking shakes on off days, or perhaps more than once a day?

I'm not saying the same post-workout shake.. (I add Glutamine-L and Creatine to my post-workout).
I'm just saying a simple ON Whey protein shake..

Does anyone do that? Any Suggestions?

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Old 03-03-2006, 12:03 AM   #2
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Whey protein, as a meal replacement, is a horrible choice because it moves through your body too quickly. If you were to drink a whey protein shake now, it would be out of your system in 30-45 mins, hardly enough time to keep your muscles fed (positive nitrogen retention state).

Casseinate protein is the best protei, as a meal replacement, you can buy because its very slow absorbing. It is costly though and not as easy to find as whey. I dont like muscle milk too much but its a common slow absorbing protein supplement (tastes pretty good too).

If you must, however, drink a whey shake because nothing is around, you can slow down the absorption by adding fats, like peanut butter, or complex high-fiber carbs, like oats.
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Old 03-03-2006, 01:28 AM   #3
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Awesome. I have Casein protein already. I may try that. Body builder friend of mine gave it to me and said I should mix it in some milk and take it before bed.

Muscle Milk RTD is awesome. I've bought a few cases in the past, and I've been meaning to get some more. I love the taste.

Speaking of peanut butter, is it bad that I add peanut butter to my post-workout shake?

Lastly, Masko, you mentioned Whey is good for the morning on your "Essential Supplement List.." thread. What did you mean by that?
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Awesome. I have Casein protein already. I may try that. Body builder friend of mine gave it to me and said I should mix it in some milk and take it before bed.

Muscle Milk RTD is awesome. I've bought a few cases in the past, and I've been meaning to get some more. I love the taste.

Speaking of peanut butter, is it bad that I add peanut butter to my post-workout shake?

Lastly, Masko, you mentioned Whey is good for the morning on your "Essential Supplement List.." thread. What did you mean by that?
from the time you go to sleep to the time you wake up you're fasting. Your body is getting no nutrients fed to it. So when you wake up you want protein to get to your muscles as quick as possible so as to halt the catabolism of the sleep fast - whey is the best option at that time of day.

It would be ideal if you could wake up in the middle of the night and have a meal but not many people want to take the effort. Many pro-bodybuilders do that.
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from the time you go to sleep to the time you wake up you're fasting. Your body is getting no nutrients fed to it. So when you wake up you want protein to get to your muscles as quick as possible so as to halt the catabolism of the sleep fast - whey is the best option at that time of day.

It would be ideal if you could wake up in the middle of the night and have a meal but not many people want to take the effort. Many pro-bodybuilders do that.
So, a whey shake would be ideal right after waking up. Good to know!
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Speaking of peanut butter, is it bad that I add peanut butter to my post-workout shake?
Yes, you want to avoid slowing down the rate in which your body absorbs it's protein at this, that's why you should drink a whey protein shake (fast-absorbing)

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So, a whey shake would be ideal right after waking up. Good to know!
along with some oats
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Muscle Milk RTD is awesome. I've bought a few cases in the past, and I've been meaning to get some more. I love the taste.
Agreed. I just bought a couple bottles since I need to gain weight.

Question though: 2 shakes per day is enough, one at breakfast and one before going to bed? I'm mixing it with whole milk instead of water or should I use skim milk? I really hate skim milk though.
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Question though: 2 shakes per day is enough, one at breakfast and one before going to bed? I'm mixing it with whole milk instead of water or should I use skim milk? I really hate skim milk though.
Are you asking for MM? What times of the day would you be drinking these shakes?
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Are you asking for MM? What times of the day would you be drinking these shakes?
Rich, yes, I just bought MM and plan to drink 1 shake for breakfast (7:30am) and one just before going to bed which is around 11pm.
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If you're not worried about the fat content, and are bulking, you could mix it with skim milk before you go to bed. However, I would avoid it for breakfast, and just have a whey shake mixed with water, and some oats. Reason for that is because after your 8 hours or so of sleep, whatever you get, you're body is very catabolic, and needs a fast digesting protein. Milk slows this down thus, should be avoided. Whey+water+oats= optimal for breakfast.
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If you're not worried about the fat content, and are bulking, you could mix it with skim milk before you go to bed. However, I would avoid it for breakfast, and just have a whey shake mixed with water, and some oats. Reason for that is because after your 8 hours or so of sleep, whatever you get, you're body is very catabolic, and needs a fast digesting protein. Milk slows this down thus, should be avoided. Whey+water+oats= optimal for breakfast.
A-ha, I'll take your advice. Yes, I'm not worried about the fat content since it has never been a problem with me or my family. As far as oats, anything in particular that you can recommend?
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A-ha, I'll take your advice. Yes, I'm not worried about the fat content since it has never been a problem with me or my family. As far as oats, anything in particular that you can recommend?
Just regular plain old-fashioned oatmeal is best
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Just regular plain old-fashioned oatmeal is best
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