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Old 03-20-2006, 11:38 PM   #1
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Just bought a new Onkyo 7.1

Any movies out that are in 7.1 so I can really put these babies to work?
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Old 03-20-2006, 11:58 PM   #2
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There are no 7.1 movies...

Look for dolby digital ex and dts es.
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Old 03-21-2006, 12:07 AM   #3
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Look for dolby digital ex and dts es.
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I wonder how many ppl actually setup 7.1 systems.
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Old 03-21-2006, 11:12 PM   #5
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I wonder how many ppl actually setup 7.1 systems.
i have in my parents home. 7.1 using paradigm inwalls and a svs sub.. works great when you have dpIIx...all the speakers do make sound. but i know the extra channels are somewhat emulated...i think it sounds good.
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Pop in Gladiator and use the DTS ES (6.1) track. Skip to the scene near the beginning when they are going to kill Maximus out in the forest. When he throws the sword at one of the horsemen, you can hear it travel from behind you, through you, and then in front of you and impale the guy. I have a 6.1 setup. I've tried the same scene w/ just 5.1 and the sound travels around you, not through you.

BTW, to get the optimal setup, you should get a SPL meter from RadioShack to equalize the speaker levels.
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BTW, to get the optimal setup, you should get a SPL meter from RadioShack to equalize the speaker levels.
buy and return

if you hit the "test" button on the onkyo remote or reciever, it will cycle through all channels and play a static sound. sit in the "center" of where you want the sound to be (ie couch) and using the spl meter adjust the channels until they all are equal in "volume."

also with your onkyo make sure to upgrade the wires to 16g instead of the stock wire.

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Old 03-22-2006, 02:17 PM   #8
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I wonder how many ppl actually setup 7.1 systems.
I've never seen a 7.1 system "in the wild". I have matched speakers for 7.1 but amplification/processing for 6.1 and a room set up for 6.1. So I have a spare speaker sitting in the closet, I guess if one blows up I'll be covered, LOL.

I also have a Radio Shack SPL meter, I've had it since 1993. That thing has earned me piles of pizzas and gallons of beer as repayment for setting up my friends' A/V systems.
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buy and return

if you hit the "test" button on the onkyo remote or reciever, it will cycle through all channels and play a static sound. sit in the "center" of where you want the sound to be (ie couch) and using the spl meter adjust the channels until they all are equal in "volume."

also with your onkyo make sure to upgrade the wires to 16g instead of the stock wire.

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I already bought the monster speaker wires... how much does that spl meter cost?
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The SPL meter is $35-45 i think. You can check their website. Try to get the analog type if they still sell them. You will want to start with the front let or front center speaker and raise the volume until it is at 75 dB on the meter and a 0 level on your speaker setup. This is your reference level for all the other speakers, and holding the same amp volume, adjust the speakers up/down to match the 75 dB. You will also want to tweak the delay of the speakers. this is usually easy now by asking for distances of the speakers instead of millisecond delays.
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Here's a link to the Radio Shack analog SPL meter. $44.99

The analog meter is much easier to use than the digital one. Use the "C" weighted setting for your measurements. And try to get the channels balanced to within 1 dB of each other.

If you have to set delay time using milliseconds instead of distance, it's not too difficult because 1.0 ms = 1.1 foot.
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Is this SPL Metere really neccesary? Anyway I can do without it? It's just I spent a lot of money on extra wire and stuff i mean $45 aint that a big deal but can i deal w/ out it somehow?
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Is this SPL Metere really neccesary? Anyway I can do without it? It's just I spent a lot of money on extra wire and stuff i mean $45 aint that a big deal but can i deal w/ out it somehow?
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Is this SPL Metere really neccesary? Anyway I can do without it? It's just I spent a lot of money on extra wire and stuff i mean $45 aint that a big deal but can i deal w/ out it somehow?
You can just use your ears and get it pretty close.

The buy and return method is scummy. And I know you're better than that
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You can just use your ears and get it pretty close.

The buy and return method is scummy. And I know you're better than that
Haha, that's what you think. But if you actually calibrate it w/ a meter, you'll find out that you're way off.

Would you buy a 50" HD plasma and not pay for HD programming?
Would you install a turbo and not dyno tune it?
Then why buy a home theater system and not calibrate it?

If you want the most from your purchase, spend the extra 2% and make it perform as it was designed to. Ask your friends, someone should have one. If you lived near me, I'd help you cal it.
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Haha, that's what you think. But if you actually calibrate it w/ a meter, you'll find out that you're way off.

Would you buy a 50" HD plasma and not pay for HD programming?
Would you install a turbo and not dyno tune it?
Then why buy a home theater system and not calibrate it?

If you want the most from your purchase, spend the extra 2% and make it perform as it was designed to. Ask your friends, someone should have one. If you lived near me, I'd help you cal it.
Actually, many people can get channel balance fairly close just by ear. I know I can, but I've done it dozens of times with a meter so I have some experience.

I agree, you really should use a meter. What's another $45 on top of what he paid for Monster Cables!

BTW - I have a brand new 50" plasma and don't pay for HD programming. I get basic cable and tune my local channels off the wire with my TV's built-in QAM tuner. I don't need all the other HD channels that come with a higher-tier cable subscription. I don't have a lot of time to watch TV and when I do, I mostly watch DVDs or network shows like that are broadcast in HD. There have been a few times I wished I had Discovery HD or whatnot, but not enough times to consider paying another $30/month for the priveledge.
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At least you are getting HD channels of some sort, OTA is nice.

The OP should return the overpriced Monster Cable, and buy speaker wire from Home Depot, Parts Express or accessories4less and buy the SPL meter with the money he saved.
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The OP should return the overpriced Monster Cable, and buy speaker wire from Home Depot, Parts Express or accessories4less and buy the SPL meter with the money he saved.
I was going to suggest that but then the magic wire freaks would get mad at me.
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I was going to suggest that but then the magic wire freaks would get mad at me.
LOL, magic wires may, i repeat, may have a little benefit on some high end Wilson speakers, but HD vs. Monster will not make a diff on a $700 Onkyo system. Just upgrading the wire size from 22 to 18 or 16 will help.

I made my own custom 14 ga x 2 bi-wire speaker cables because supposedly, it helps separate the treble and bass and make them cleaner. Really, I was just bored so I took on this cheap project. They look cool though, i put plastic mesh braiding over them.
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Old 04-14-2006, 10:46 PM   #20
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Hey I was curious to find 7.1 surround movies. Actually the 6.1 Dolby EX films will give you that 7.1 feel. Here are a couple link to movies with Dolby EX

http://www.dolby.com/consumer/motion..._upcoming.html


http://www.dolby.com/consumer/motion...reviously.html
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