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Old 10-15-2002, 05:19 PM   #1
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What's the difference between these xenon housings?

I just bought this set of xenons but they are mismatched. As you can see in the pic, one is off a coupe and the other from a sedan. One has a slightly larger projector lens and a line in it, ther other is smaller w/o a line. My questions are:

1. is the coupe headlight (production date 10/01) from a 2002 car with bi-xenon, and is that why is has a different lens? Or is it a late 2001 with single xenon? I hooked up both the low and high beam harnesses to the housing and when I used the brights (in both the "flash" and "on" position the halogen H7 beam was illuminated, not the xenon).

2. Does the projector lens make a difference in color? I'd like the two lenses to match so I want to order another one - but I'm not sure if I should look for the large lens with a line or the smaller one.

I hope someone has some input, I appreciate any help! Thanks.
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Old 10-15-2002, 05:33 PM   #2
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The left one the bigger one is BI-Xenon meaning the line there is acutally I think a peice of glass or something anyway. What it does is it lets you use both Low and hI beams with the Xenon while the other smaller xenon is just a low beam xenon. The bigger one probably has Auto leveling as well.
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Old 10-15-2002, 05:45 PM   #3
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All Xenons have autoleveling...
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You sure about all xenons? I think the earlier ones don't and the newer ones have Auto leveling. The older ones have leveling but it's manual leveling that you have to turn a knob or something.
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Old 10-15-2002, 05:51 PM   #5
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Yes, but since I don't have leveling module...

I don't have a harness for it. So then the one with the line through the center is bi-xenon, right? I've heard some people saying the bi-xenon doesn't have as good of color output, so should I order another housing for a single xenon car? I'm just trying to figure out which one will look better if either. Thanks.
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Old 10-15-2002, 05:56 PM   #6
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all 3series xenons have auto leveling.. even the first batch of the e46 sedans back in 99 had auto leveling.

the line means its Bi-Xenon meaning you have both Highbeam and Lowbeam capabilities with the xenons
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Old 10-15-2002, 06:19 PM   #7
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So...

Anyone want to comment on whether I should try to get another single xenon or bi-xenon light? I've searched the archives and seen a lot of people saying that their bi-xenons are too yellow (someone mentioned it's because of the Osram bulbs being used instead of Phillips). Both the lights I got ('01 and '02) are Osram.

As far as having xenon high beams it doesn't matter b/c my car won't do it anyway since the computer isn't set up for xenon highs. So I'm just looking for the better color output. Should I just buy whichever lens I can find and then get 6000Ks??
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Old 10-15-2002, 06:21 PM   #8
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Old 10-15-2002, 10:15 PM   #9
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Side by side comp. of bi-xenon and single xenon

Ok I don't know if anyone else has done this yet, but here is a TRUE side by side comparison between the two lights - both of them on the car. Well not exactly - they're just sitting on the top which is why they are angled a little weird. But you can still see the color difference which is noticable. The bi-xenon is slightly more yellow but seems to have a little more output.

So I still don't know which one projector lens to replace. Get a single xenon and have more blue or a bi-xenon and get 6000K bulbs...
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Old 10-15-2002, 10:16 PM   #10
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And here's one comparing the 4300K kit from Phoenix Microlite to the stock xenons.
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Old 10-15-2002, 10:25 PM   #11
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IM me on AIM: wizimoto. and ill tell you how to wire your non xenon car to work with bi-xenon. i would know, i just did this!!!


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Old 10-15-2002, 10:38 PM   #12
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^^ by that i mean, i can tell you how to get your bi-xenon part to work....(your high beam through your bi xenon)
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Old 10-16-2002, 12:30 AM   #13
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it is possible to get just the iner lenses?

can someoe post the OEM part #

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Old 10-16-2002, 01:17 AM   #14
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you can find the lenses on ebay for like $200 - not really worth it when you can just get full housings for $300-400. there's no part number for it from the stealer cause it's not available without a full headlight.
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Don't mean to hijack the thread but those two pics are hella funny!!! It reminds me of planarians!!! - you know, those retard cross-eyed looking flatworms we all cut up in science class years ago

I'm not talking about your beautiful car byebyem. Just the way the lights are positioned
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Old 10-16-2002, 02:37 AM   #16
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Old 10-16-2002, 06:12 AM   #17
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Are you guys sure that the line signifies bi-xenon? I got some xenons from a wreck about 4-5 months ago and put them in my car:

http://www.dspots.com/bmw/jason/

You can clearly see the line but I didn't think they were bi-xenon. If so, then I really got a steal at <$450 although if you click the DIY you can see the work that went into them.

I was under the impression these were regular xenons, so if these really are Bi-Xenons, could someone tell me how to use this functionality? I always wondered what that line was for.

I sent you a PM KurriMasta.
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was there a motor on the projector that controls the metal cover over the lense?
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Old 10-16-2002, 12:25 PM   #19
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There's a metal cover over the lens? Maybe I'm missing something. It appears to be just a lens, without anything over it. The slit (horizontal line) you see if inside the projector lens itself.
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Old 10-16-2002, 03:25 PM   #20
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I have a solution for you...check your e-mail.

I can get you the other coupe bi-xenon real cheap.
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