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Old 09-08-2006, 10:32 PM   #1
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I got some inside info indirectly from Active Autowerke ion 335i tuning

i am not gonna leak it yet. but i will tell you they bought a few 335is

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Old 09-08-2006, 10:40 PM   #2
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I don't know why they bother. They will never figure out how to tune it!
Rumor has it that they will be only focusing on appearance and cosmetics instead of performance. A little birdie told me that they are creating a 22" wheel for the 335's w/ their logo on it! That would be cool.

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I don't know why they bother. They will never figure out how to tune it!
Rumor has it that they will be only focusing on appearance and cosmetics instead of performance. A little birdie told me that they are creating a 22" wheel for the 335's w/ their logo on it! That would be cool.
They couldn`t develop a E46 Turbo Kit for 7yrs what are they going to do with the 335.
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uhhh AA will make you a turbo kit if you go there and ask for one. What's with all the negativity??
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Note the rolling eyes in my post.. It was late and I was in the joking mood.
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Note the rolling eyes in my post.. It was late and I was in the joking mood.
Yes but i don`t want to pay 9k for a custom turbo kit.My budget is 5k-6k like it should be.
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I don't know why they bother. They will never figure out how to tune it!
Rumor has it that they will be only focusing on appearance and cosmetics instead of performance. A little birdie told me that they are creating a 22" wheel for the 335's w/ their logo on it! That would be cool.
You have to figure out how to make it obvious your joking.`From your post the negativity and sarcasm is crazy.


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Turbo kit is different thenm just tuning, besides its expensive they are doing custom setups now. they did make a sc kit for over 130 cars though
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Tunning for the 335i will be hands down easier. It's a turbo car which already has the FI fuel mapping/trim and you work with small increments to add here and there for more boost and advanced timing. Unlike the E46 NA mapping where you take the stock NA mapping which breads on it's own, turn it from back to white (like Michael Jackson), and make it forced fed with entirely different mapping. Also, with a higher compression, you have less room for error/play with timing, a/f ratios, and of corse boost. Turbo wont be a big problem on these motors, it’s just that the companies that make them are worried about people blowing/melting there motors due to the customers not understanding that egt’s, air temp, etc matters (non-monitorive drivers) . Basically, it’s difficult to make a “turbo kit for dummies” who just want to floor it around every corner
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Wow, there are a lot of naysayers on this thread. I think you doubters will be surprised at what you'll see.

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The key to the 335 will be software, exhaust, intake, and other items, I'm not really sure how people plan to add a bigger turbo's as it's already a very tight fit with the stock setup. That also explains why there's two turbo's as opposed to one. I'm sure Technik, AA, and other companies will come out with software to truly let the car rip. I've heard, since I haven't had a chance to drive one yet personally, that theyre pretty damn quick... but i'll have to wait to find out
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The key to the 335 will be software, exhaust, intake, and other items, I'm not really sure how people plan to add a bigger turbo's as it's already a very tight fit with the stock setup. That also explains why there's two turbo's as opposed to one. I'm sure Technik, AA, and other companies will come out with software to truly let the car rip. I've heard, since I haven't had a chance to drive one yet personally, that theyre pretty damn quick... but i'll have to wait to find out
The bolt pattern of the 335i's head and the e46 non-M/E36 head are the same. I fit a GT3571 in my car, if I could then the 335i could. Hands down, the 335i is a new, but. Old chapter which is being re-written in BMW's history. This is a huge positive in BMW's aftermarket side. I'm jsut waiting to see if the pistons are forged (which I doubt). But surely, the crank and rods are.
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Do they have a plan on building a Turbo Kit for the E46 330 and M3 anywhere in the near future.There have been some rumours going around on AA with one in the works and also Technicengineering and Horsepowerfreaks.com.Any comments.
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They couldn`t develop a E46 Turbo Kit for 7yrs what are they going to do with the 335.
dude your ****ing annoying honestly, you want a turbo go to AA and you will get one. AA is a great company and will do whatever you want with the right $$.. otherwise just drop the negativity.
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The key to the 335 will be software, exhaust, intake, and other items, I'm not really sure how people plan to add a bigger turbo's as it's already a very tight fit with the stock setup. That also explains why there's two turbo's as opposed to one. I'm sure Technik, AA, and other companies will come out with software to truly let the car rip. I've heard, since I haven't had a chance to drive one yet personally, that theyre pretty damn quick... but i'll have to wait to find out
Hey you know how supra went from twin to single.. now okay imagine an exhaust manifold that bolts up to all 6 ports and then to a nice size big turbo (it will fit that way) the futur of the 335 will be a single turbo conversion with a lot of lag but a lot a lot of power.
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The bolt pattern of the 335i's head and the e46 non-M/E36 head are the same. I fit a GT3571 in my car, if I could then the 335i could. Hands down, the 335i is a new, but. Old chapter which is being re-written in BMW's history. This is a huge positive in BMW's aftermarket side. I'm jsut waiting to see if the pistons are forged (which I doubt). But surely, the crank and rods are.
I hear what you're saying, but I believe the engine bay specs (sizes) are a little different from the E46 than in the E92, naturally I could be wrong, but it's worth checking into. I'd love to see a 335 with a pretty large snail bolted on. I'm sure bmw has forged pistons in the car, most turbo cars run forged pistons, especially turbo cars from the factory, at least most more modern cars. I couldn't imagine BMW not having forged pistons just due to the fact that a lot of people will be driving the snot out of the 335's and they wouldn't want mass recalls for bad pistons. But they might have installed cast ones... I dunno, I'm also curious to know too
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Hey you know how supra went from twin to single.. now okay imagine an exhaust manifold that bolts up to all 6 ports and then to a nice size big turbo (it will fit that way) the futur of the 335 will be a single turbo conversion with a lot of lag but a lot a lot of power.
yeah I know, its just there's more room in a supras engine bay. I really want to see a single turbo conversion, that'd be pretty cool. Turbo lag wouldn't be all that fun though- anyone every considered the fact that the stock compression ratio is 10.2:1 I'm not sure how much boost the motor will hold stock, even if it's already turbo- any ideas, speculations, etc?
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yeah I know, its just there's more room in a supras engine bay. I really want to see a single turbo conversion, that'd be pretty cool. Turbo lag wouldn't be all that fun though- anyone every considered the fact that the stock compression ratio is 10.2:1 I'm not sure how much boost the motor will hold stock, even if it's already turbo- any ideas, speculations, etc?
The motor in the 335i (N54) is running a 10.2:1 compression ratio and is boosting 8.52 psi. I find this a negative when it comes about the timing side of tunnig. Basically, the 335i is a 330i/ci with a blower on it...
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This is not true. AA is trying to get away from custom projects. It requires waaay to much time, effort and resources.
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