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Old 09-21-2006, 12:43 PM   #1
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For you ZHP guys who have Technik IC...

Hi guys, for you zhp owners who have the Technik larger IC, can you still keep the factory brake ducts? Do the IC pipings on both sides get in the way of the ducts that you have to ditch them?

Trying to gather parts for a mtech II bumper for my sedan, not sure if the brake ducts are still needed since I have to cut away the ducts on my mtech I bumper (the sport pckg bumper). I've never seen how it's done on the cars with ZHP bumper so if anyone can share some info I'd appreciate it. Thanks
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Old 09-21-2006, 01:36 PM   #2
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Hi guys, for you zhp owners who have the Technik larger IC, can you still keep the factory brake ducts? Do the IC pipings on both sides get in the way of the ducts that you have to ditch them?

Trying to gather parts for a mtech II bumper for my sedan, not sure if the brake ducts are still needed since I have to cut away the ducts on my mtech I bumper (the sport pckg bumper). I've never seen how it's done on the cars with ZHP bumper so if anyone can share some info I'd appreciate it. Thanks
You probably won't find many since the tuning for the ZHP isn't as simple as you may think.
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Old 09-21-2006, 03:43 PM   #3
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You probably won't find many since the tuning for the ZHP isn't as simple as you may think.

Thanks Tyler, that's a good point, didnt realize that
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Thanks Tyler, that's a good point, didnt realize that
However - there are tons of cars with Mtech fronts and SC's so someone should know this. I forget what Mike Benvo has...maybe an Mtech?
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Theres a guy named cleanmtech330 here. He his the FMIC on his Mtech front. It looks like Techniks bigger IC. Hope he dosent mind me posting a pic.


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Old 09-21-2006, 09:04 PM   #6
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Theres a guy named cleanmtech330 here. He his the FMIC on his Mtech front. It looks like Techniks bigger IC. Hope he dosent mind me posting a pic.


Thanks for helping out guys... I did try to IM cleanmtech, he didnt respond. prolly thought I was a prankster or something. I'll write him instead.

Doesn't look like the ducts can be kept though, at least not for the driver side, that's where the intake sits, looking at your pic, LakeShow. Anyone else can share their mtech setup?
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I have a ZHP with the larger FMIC. You have to remove the filler behind the kidney grills. You cannot run the plastic underpan. I have retained my factory brake ducts.
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You probably won't find many since the tuning for the ZHP isn't as simple as you may think.

The base S/C kit comes with a piggyback. Tuning is not an issue for stage 1 or sk+ which does not use any AFPR or even a piggyback. My system has been running for several thousand miles with no hiccups or CEL's. I am on MS45 with a piggyback.
Tuning for a ZHP is no harder than a non ZHP model with respect to a S/C. The boost is linear therefore simpler to tune than a turbo. The issue with the ZHP deals with a hesitation or stumble that starts around 3800 rpm or so. This is true with a bone stock car, it is a BMW problem not a F/I issue. F/I exacerbates the problem but is not the base cause.
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The base S/C kit comes with a piggyback. Tuning is not an issue for stage 1 or sk+ which does not use any AFPR or even a piggyback. My system has been running for several thousand miles with no hiccups or CEL's. I am on MS45 with a piggyback.
Tuning for a ZHP is no harder than a non ZHP model with respect to a S/C. The boost is linear therefore simpler to tune than a turbo. The issue with the ZHP deals with a hesitation or stumble that starts around 3800 rpm or so. This is true with a bone stock car, it is a BMW problem not a F/I issue. F/I exacerbates the problem but is not the base cause.
I was meaning that the piggy back wasn't a preferable method for most people.

Personally I think the MS45 is a joke for tuners to try to work with, but I don't really know enough about it to say go piggy back all the way either.
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I have a ZHP with the larger FMIC. You have to remove the filler behind the kidney grills. You cannot run the plastic underpan. I have retained my factory brake ducts.
cool! so the brake ducts dont get in the way, thanks for the info vm. I suppose the filler is that air duct-like thing that one can see thru the grid, correct? because the IC took its place?
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i still use my underpan but i hat to cut away some of it for the IC piping. I also removed the driver side brakeduct so the intake is directly in the brake duct area...
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hey guys, what's up. This is interesting i still have my under tray or pan intact, along with both ducts intact, minus the cutting for the intake filter. Lakeshow, no worries about posting the pic, I apprecaite it. Anyways the only part that really needs to be removed is the bracket that goes behind the mesh, which IMO doesn't even really serve a purpose other than for looks. I had no issues other that removing that one bracket, I spoke with the thread starts icecream, i didnt respond to the aim message, because i was away from my computer, I have a bad habit of signing onto AIM and forgetting to sign off, I've since wrote him back and hopefully any other questions were answered, if not email me and I'd be more than happy to help out, thanks-
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hey guys, what's up. This is interesting i still have my under tray or pan intact, along with both ducts intact, minus the cutting for the intake filter. Lakeshow, no worries about posting the pic, I apprecaite it. Anyways the only part that really needs to be removed is the bracket that goes behind the mesh, which IMO doesn't even really serve a purpose other than for looks. I had no issues other that removing that one bracket, I spoke with the thread starts icecream, i didnt respond to the aim message, because i was away from my computer, I have a bad habit of signing onto AIM and forgetting to sign off, I've since wrote him back and hopefully any other questions were answered, if not email me and I'd be more than happy to help out, thanks-
Thanks for the help guys. It looks like the brake duct function can be retained and I'll go ahead and order up the parts.

As for the underpan, my situation is just as Solid described, Zolti had to cut a way a small portion of it to accomodate the IC piping and that's it. But I guess the situation can vary between different installers... Again, thanks for everyone's info
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