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Old 09-22-2006, 11:36 AM   #1
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335i vs E46 M3 test results!

Basically, the 335 did the 36m slalom a lot faster than the M3 and C55. It tied the M3 in the 110m change lane, tied the E60 M5 in the wet track time and pulled higher G's than both the M3 and C55 on the skidpad. however, the 335 was 4 seconds slower than the M3 around the nurburgring.

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Old 09-22-2006, 11:41 AM   #2
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Old 09-22-2006, 11:44 AM   #3
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The new bi-turbo 3 series coupe shows some impresive numbers on Nurburgring. Here is a scan from the german magazine Sport Auto:

Laptime Nordschleife 8.26 min (4 seconds slower than M3)
Laptime Hockenheim 1.17,8 min (0,8 seconds faster than C55 and 1.5 seconds slower than M3)

0-100km/h 5.6 sec
0-200km/h 20,7 sec

36m slalom: 130km/h (M3 123km/h, C55 122km/h)
110m change lane: 136km/h (M6 137km/h, M3 136km/h, C55 134km/h)
Wet track: 1.36,8 min (M5 E60 1.36, 7min)

G-powers: 1.15g (C55, 1,10g and M3 1.10g)
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Old 09-22-2006, 11:54 AM   #4
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Just got back from test driving one while my car was being worked on... and let me tell you, the thing is amazing... definately going to own one soon... definately.. byt the time i got off the on ramp onto the highway i was at 115 and didnt seem like it at all... then it just had so much more to give..
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Old 09-22-2006, 12:00 PM   #6
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How much to lease one?
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Old 09-22-2006, 12:47 PM   #8
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How much to lease one?
lease deal right now is $4k down and $592/month

i'm sure u can tweak the numbers a bit. this is probably a base version with just automatic and sunroof
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Old 09-22-2006, 01:07 PM   #10
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<----- Holding out for E92 M3.

Those are good numbers though, and with some mods the 335i will be awesome.
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Old 09-22-2006, 01:11 PM   #11
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No suprise to me. The e46 330 was a close performer to the e36 M3 (American market). However, the e36 M3 is a better performer than the e46 330, and the e46 M3 is a better performer than the e92 335i is. Plus, there are goodies like a Limited-Slip differential that you don't get with the e92.

I don't liek the costant trend towards bigger, heavier, more supple cars. It comes at the expense of go-fast items. That is only my opinion.
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Nuburgring laptime:
1) M3: 8.22minutes
2) C55: 8:22 minutes
3) 335i: 8:26 minutes
4) S4 Avant: 8:29 minutes

Hockenheim laptime:
1) M3: 1.17,6 minutes
2) 335i: 1.17.8 minutes
3) C55: 1.18,6 minutes
4) S4 Avant: 1.19,1 minutes

0-200-0 km/h
1) M3: 23.2 seconds
2) C55: 23.7 seconds
3) 335i: 26.3 seconds
4) S4 Avant: 26.4 seconds

Transverse acceleration:
1) 335i: 1.15 g
2) M3: 1.10 g
3) C55: 1.10 g
4) S4 Avant: 1.05 g

Slalom course (36m)
1) 335i: 136 km/h
2) M3: 123 km/h
3) C55: 122 km/h
4) S4 Avant: 121 km/h

Evasive course (110m)
1) 335i: 136 km/h
2) M3: 136 km/h
3) C55: 134 km/h
4) S4 Avant: 130 km/h

Total points indicative of the "overall assessment"
1) 335i: 45
2) M3: 44
3) C55: 42
4) S4 Avant: 37
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Wow, that new E92 chassis and suspension is kicking ass!! I'd still be VERY happy with an E92 328i
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No suprise to me. The e46 330 was a close performer to the e36 M3 (American market). However, the e36 M3 is a better performer than the e46 330, and the e46 M3 is a better performer than the e92 335i is. Plus, there are goodies like a Limited-Slip differential that you don't get with the e92.

I don't liek the costant trend towards bigger, heavier, more supple cars. It comes at the expense of go-fast items. That is only my opinion.
Buying a BMW is giving up quite a bit of go-fast and the true driving experience (I don't care what the ads say) for luxury. I've never felt such a spongy clutch/transmission in my life, though the handling is above average for a factory stock car. The E46 M3 drives far better but is still not a hardcore performer, especially not compared to what else is available for the money. A twin turbocharged six-cylinder vehicle should make in excess of 400hp at the wheels at the BMW price. I don't understand why you guys don't just keep your bimmers for cruising and buy a fast car to have a fast car.

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Buying a BMW is giving up quite a bit of go-fast and the true driving experience (I don't care what the ads say) for luxury. I've never felt such a spongy clutch/transmission in my life, though the handling is above average for a factory stock car. The E46 M3 drives far better but is still not a hardcore performer, especially not compared to what else is available for the money. A twin turbocharged six-cylinder vehicle should make in excess of 400hp at the wheels at the BMW price. I don't understand why you guys don't just keep your bimmers for cruising and buy a fast car to have a fast car.

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Old 09-22-2006, 05:13 PM   #18
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If these numbers are true, then the 335 out performs the M3 in every handling category; which begs me to ask the question, what is the point of a LSD from a performance category? Everyone allways states that it does not have a LSD, but it is out performing cars that have them. I am not saying that a LSD is not better then an open diff, I am just asking the question.
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If these numbers are true, then the 335 out performs the M3 in every handling category; which begs me to ask the question, what is the point of a LSD from a performance category? Everyone allways states that it does not have a LSD, but it is out performing cars that have them. I am not saying that a LSD is not better then an open diff, I am just asking the question.
It's just a good thing to have in "dynamic" driving situations. There have always been some high-performance cars that make due without them - some Porsches I believe.

I don't think any one single feature is going to outdo overall engineering evolution/advancement.
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No suprise to me. The e46 330 was a close performer to the e36 M3 (American market). However, the e36 M3 is a better performer than the e46 330, and the e46 M3 is a better performer than the e92 335i is. Plus, there are goodies like a Limited-Slip differential that you don't get with the e92.

I don't liek the costant trend towards bigger, heavier, more supple cars. It comes at the expense of go-fast items. That is only my opinion.
If that tread continues, image a 335 or whatever in another 6 years to be as fast as the new V8 M3... That's crazy.
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