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Old 10-02-2006, 10:37 AM   #1
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Question What tire brand is the best for stretch?

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Old 10-02-2006, 10:39 AM   #2
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The PS2 is a larger than average tire, if that is what you are asking.
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No. I'm asking which tires can perform better then the others when stretched.

Here's an example:

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Old 10-02-2006, 02:22 PM   #4
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I was very happy with my Falkens. Both the FK-451 and AZENIS ST-115 have sidewall protections so if you run flat there is some support so you do not just run on the rim.

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Do you have pics? And can you tell me sizes you're running? Thx.
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Old 10-02-2006, 03:24 PM   #6
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I had Yokohama AVS Sports on my old 3er. I liked them, but they wore quickly.
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Old 10-02-2006, 03:41 PM   #7
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Falken FK-451s have a nice stretch, DO NOT get 452's if you want a stretch, they are now cut wide...

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^ My front is gonna be 9 and I'd like a more aggressive stretch. Maybe like 45-50 degrees. Do you think I should go with 255s or 265s (FK-451)?
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rear: 10x16 on 225/40/16
front: 9.5x16 on 215/40/16


I want something with this degree angle stretch. On 19x9 ans 19x11.
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Old 10-02-2006, 05:11 PM   #10
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^ My front is gonna be 9 and I'd like a more aggressive stretch. Maybe like 45-50 degrees. Do you think I should go with 255s or 265s (FK-451)?
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Good God Asterisk lol. stretcccchhhhhhhhhhhh...

I agree, go 255.
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What about General Exclaim? Are they good for stretch?
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What about General Exclaim? Are they good for stretch?
nope! the sidewall is too square type, you need falkens, just like pyrite showed, used falkens before on 9.5 rims w/ 235's.
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Old 10-03-2006, 08:58 AM   #14
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Some info found on VWVortex forum. Credit goes to billcosbyluvsvr6s.

what is stretch?
- "stretch" refers to stretching a narrower tire over a wider wheel, the sidewalls stretch from the lip to the tread

why do stretched tires?
- well the whole thing started in germany/belgium, local laws required that the tire tread be within the fender line. well that doesnt allow one to run wider or lower offset wheels, so they put narrower tires on the wheel to maintain legality

- when you would like to run really wide or low offset wheels and keep the tire tread at the fender

- when you would like to go really low and not rub

isnt this unsafe?
- there hasnt been any soild evidence that running a stretched tire is any more dangerous than a regular tire.

where can i get tires stretched?
-any reputable wheel/tire shop should be able to do it. i know when i did a 215-45 kumho on a 8.5" wheel, it took one shop 90lbs to pop the bead. getting a 225-45 on a 9 and a 245-40 on a 10.5 took another shop 50 lbs

can't you afford the right tire size?
- the tire that stretch the most tend to be at the top of the price list, so it isnt an issue

what tires stretch best?
- from what i have seen, the best tires with regards to stretch are:
toyo t1-s
dunlop sp9000
dunlop sp8080e
falken fk451


im sure there are more, but look for a tire with a rounded shoulder and a lip protector, they tend to give the "desirable" look


but staggered wheels are stupid on fwd cars, arent you worried about handling?
- its all about looks, you wont see anyone with low offset deep dish wheels flopping around the autox course.

arent you worried about curbing a wheel?
- take a look in the classifieds and count the number of wheels on regular tires compared to those on stretched tires with damage.

what if you get a puncture in the tire from a nail and you're going 65mph and the tire loses air rapidly, will it stay beaded (proper term?) as long as a regular sized tire would? do stretched tires need to have above a certain tire pressure to stay beaded?

- one thing about running stretched tires, the driver tends to be a bit more careful because of the cost of the wheels, i definately drive more alert with the tramonts than i do my stock wheels.

and as far as loss of pressure is concerned, i tested my wheels the other day after putting them on, i drove around one day (~60 miles mixed highway/city) and one tire was at 10psi, no visual or performance cues.

the main reason for a tire popping a bead is sidewall flex, not internal pressure. like i said, it took ~90lbs to mount my one set, there is no way that driving forces would add to exceed that pressure, let alone the 40lbs it took to do this set

from my understanding, stretching tires is just putting smaller tires on a bigger rims, like 215 on a 19"x8.5 or something like that. But to get that tire outside the fender, dont we need spacers or something? or as long you have stretch tires, you will achieve "the look" on the rear wheels?


- you can do one of 2 things: 1 - use spacers, 2 - pick a wheel or have one made that provides an offset such that when mounted it will have the look you want

ok, it seems clear now. what et usually gives that kind of look? and with that kind of offset or by using spacers, wont the tire tread falls under or outside the fender just like that? If it is, then why we need to stretch the tires again??


- the thing is that in most cases people are running a wide, low offset wheel, which would allow them to run a large amount of dish...

the proper offset for a mark 4 front fender is about 30-32 with an 8.5" wheel, but with the strech idea, one could run a 20-25 (would poke outside the fender about 1/2") without rubbing and without being against the law.

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So I should order:

255/35/19 on 19x9

and

275/40/19 on 19x11 ???

Please confirm.
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Old 10-04-2006, 06:06 PM   #16
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I don't know why you guys want that stretched looks anyways...looks like ****...unsafe too...rims gonna get curbed easier etc...
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Old 10-06-2006, 02:06 PM   #17
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Here are pics of my Falken AZENIS ST-115 255/35/18 on mt 18"x10" Brocks


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Old 10-06-2006, 02:18 PM   #18
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I don't know why you guys want that stretched looks anyways...looks like ****...unsafe too...rims gonna get curbed easier etc...

Just because you don't like it does not mean that everyone thinks it looks bad. If everyone had cars that looked the same they would be boring. I never had any problems with my stretched tires but I also did not track that car either.
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Old 10-06-2006, 02:23 PM   #19
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Great thread

I gotta keep this one in mind, "just in case."
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I don't know why you guys want that stretched looks anyways...looks like ****...unsafe too...rims gonna get curbed easier etc...
Yeah I have to agree. The stretched look just seems too ghetto to me.
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