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Old 11-29-2006, 08:57 PM   #1
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17s vs 19s-- comfort, rideability?

So right now I'm trying to make my Christmas list, and of course BMW parts comprise most of it. A big thing, however, are some new shoes. Currently I have OEM 17" stock M-sports, shown below, and want to upgrade. I live in a suburban area, however roads tend to be less than par. I mean, it seems like we have a lot of minor potholes and stuff. This dilemma is somewhat swaying my decision whether to get 18s or 19s... I really want 19s, but I don't want to mess them up. I'm a cautious driver no doubt, but should I worry? What advice can you guys shed on the difference between the two? How worth it is it?

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Old 11-30-2006, 01:21 PM   #2
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I am making this decision as well.

I am making a decision on 18” BMW stock 330 wheels or 19” Beyern 8.5” front, 9.5” rear. I am very nervous about the second set up, very nervous. I don’t want a problematic set up.
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Old 11-30-2006, 01:37 PM   #3
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17"s don't look good. 19"s look great but yes, its harsh if you're used to drive 17"s. A lot of NYC owners still enjoy their 19" (I have M3) and don't really complain. Any bigger size/low profile tires are more chance to get damaged from some bad road conditions for sure.
But still enjoyable. I think best compromise solution is just get 18"s so it looks alot better than 17" but not harsh on the rides and not too much worrying about tire damages. Also 18"s are so popular now so tire prices aren't that bad comapre to 19" tires.

I alway like +1 size set up. +2 sizes sometimes looks too much and kinda showly instead of subtle nice upgrade.
When I had Z, I upgraded my stock 18"s to lighter/wider 18" and my current M3 19", I just put wider wheels since I dont see any single reason to have bigger wheels. (look, ride comfort, tire price, pot holes etc.)

budget 18" CSL replica (800+shipping) would look great without spending big budget wheels.
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Old 11-30-2006, 02:16 PM   #4
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You're getting too anxious about 19" wheels. They are very reliable and minor potholes are not a problem at all...as long as you get a wheel by a respectable manufacturer.

My 19s have put up with so much and they are still without problems. No cracks, bends, nothing...The fact that you are a safe driver makes the situation even better.

18s will bend too if you run over huge potholes at 30mph, it's all about being careful. But like I said, you don't have to be so cautious with 19s.

The looks alone make the difference. So go for it and don't hesitate.

18s and 19s are quite similar as far as ride comfort goes.
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Old 11-30-2006, 02:17 PM   #5
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I am making a decision on 18” BMW stock 330 wheels or 19” Beyern 8.5” front, 9.5” rear. I am very nervous about the second set up, very nervous. I don’t want a problematic set up.
Beyerns are very well made and you shouldn't worry, you will love them.

Just don't drive harsh or fast over BIG potholes...it's just common sense.
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Old 12-02-2006, 11:48 PM   #6
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Beyerns are very well made and you shouldn't worry, you will love them.

Just don't drive harsh or fast over BIG potholes...it's just common sense.
Ironically, the Beyern Mesh's sparked this thread... I want some 19s in those soooo bad, but just wanted to make sure I wasn't making a mistake. Thanks for the advice all....
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Old 12-02-2006, 11:54 PM   #7
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Went from OEM 16s to Breyton Magic 19s. Needless to say, I like them much more than before.

Almost 600 miles on them and no problems yet. Even with some of the crappy road conditions after the last rain. I just remember where the potholes are and stay in different lanes. I woulda done that with my 16s anyway, so no biggie.
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Old 12-03-2006, 12:53 PM   #8
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Old 12-03-2006, 02:37 PM   #9
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I've got the same OEM wheels (17" M-Sport), and I'm considering getting some 19" M Competition wheels (figured I'd get the 19 x 8's all the way around). Now, I'm pretty sure that the E46 M3 has a different suspension setup than my E46 Sport 330i. Anyone know if you are risking damage to the car itself going to the 19's?
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Old 12-03-2006, 02:41 PM   #10
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You won't damage the suspension, but you cannot put an e46 M wheel on a non-e46 M because of the offset.

I believe the fronts will work, but the rears will not. What you might be able to do is get two pairs of front M wheels to go all around your 330.
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Old 12-03-2006, 02:54 PM   #11
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Yeah - that was the plan, order 4 "fronts" for the entire car.
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Old 12-03-2006, 03:05 PM   #12
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Yeah - that was the plan, order 4 "fronts" for the entire car.
I've seen a bunch of people on the forums with that setup, and I don't see any reason four M "fronts" would be any different than any other 19s with the correct offset. So I think you'll be fine.
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Old 12-04-2006, 02:27 AM   #13
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Yeah - that was the plan, order 4 "fronts" for the entire car.
That's a good plan and your suspension will not be harmed.

BTW, to a fellow Houstonian.
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Old 12-17-2006, 10:43 AM   #14
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I went from a 16" wheel and debated going 18" vs' 19" and I am SOOOOOO glad I went to a 19" because it has proved problem free, ride quality is still great (factory sport suspension with H&R anti-roll bars) and has much reduced tire roll than an 18" wheel/tire. I did notice however that the larger rims seem to have used up what I had left in the front control arm bushings after switching back to my winter wheels/tires. Turn-in seems less immediate than last winter and there's a bit of compliance in the steering before anything happens. Not a big deal anyway, they say the front upper/lower control arm bushings are made soft for the N. American market because of our shi**y roads and thus they wear out. Urethane bushings should yield dramatic results at this point. Anybody else have this going on?
The long and short is.... buy the 19's and replace your control arm bushings if they wear out (or just for the performance aspect) and you will be very happy with your decision!



[QUOTE=jss8422;5197511]So right now I'm trying to make my Christmas list, and of course BMW parts comprise most of it. A big thing, however, are some new shoes. Currently I have OEM 17" stock M-sports, shown below, and want to upgrade. I live in a suburban area, however roads tend to be less than par. I mean, it seems like we have a lot of minor potholes and stuff. This dilemma is somewhat swaying my decision whether to get 18s or 19s... I really want 19s, but I don't want to mess them up. I'm a cautious driver no doubt, but should I worry? What advice can you guys shed on the difference between the two? How worth it is it?

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Old 12-17-2006, 11:29 AM   #15
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Old 12-17-2006, 01:47 PM   #16
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I would go with a set of 18's, IMO they are a perfect compromise between 19'' looks and 17'' ride quality and performance.

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Old 12-18-2006, 02:12 PM   #17
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I have to disagree with anyone who says that the ride is not comprimised with the larger wheels. There is a big difference b/w the 17's and 19's. You feel the road and its bumps and cracks MUCH MORE with the change. Looks over everyday function... (But I'm ok with it.)

You PROBABLY won't damage your 19's and more than you would 18's unless you hit something major.

Not that it helps, but faced with the same dilemma, I went with 19's in suburban Philadelphia, and I would do it again. Why... cuz they look SO good. GL.

Good news is you really can't go wrong.
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Old 12-19-2006, 09:02 PM   #18
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I guess the bottom line is that if the roads where you do most of your driving suck, get 18's. The roads here are pretty decent so the 19's have yet to be too harsh. I will say though, the extra rotational mass does make the car feel more sluggish off the line (which obviously I don't like about larger wheels) and with more aggressive damping the ride would definitely be rougher.


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I have to disagree with anyone who says that the ride is not comprimised with the larger wheels. There is a big difference b/w the 17's and 19's. You feel the road and its bumps and cracks MUCH MORE with the change. Looks over everyday function... (But I'm ok with it.)

You PROBABLY won't damage your 19's and more than you would 18's unless you hit something major.

Not that it helps, but faced with the same dilemma, I went with 19's in suburban Philadelphia, and I would do it again. Why... cuz they look SO good. GL.

Good news is you really can't go wrong.
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Old 12-20-2006, 08:54 AM   #19
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Compared to my E30...my E46 on 19's slammed on H&R Race, is super plush. It is a very very comfortable ride. Had to have the rear fenders rolled...but damn they look good!




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