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Old 06-20-2010, 04:41 PM   #25341
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thanx for the invite rsdeuce, i will definetly try, so glad i've met other e46 owners in the area...
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Old 06-20-2010, 05:11 PM   #25342
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thanx for the invite rsdeuce, i will definetly try, so glad i've met other e46 owners in the area...
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Old 06-20-2010, 05:15 PM   #25343
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eww, body roll sucks (imagine mine, lawks!), cars lean the wrong damn way....
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Old 06-20-2010, 06:50 PM   #25344
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eww, body roll sucks (imagine mine, lawks!), cars lean the wrong damn way....
Some engineer was once explaining to me that if you had an infinite and consistent turn, more body roll is actually better. Don't ask me to explain it, but I'm just throwing it out there that body roll has some positive apparently.
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Old 06-20-2010, 06:53 PM   #25345
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its better to a point, ie. loading up tires progressively, but its not needed. its good for comfort, not handling and grip.
you dont have to be an engineer to know that it shifts the weight the wrong way, and reduces grip.
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Old 06-20-2010, 06:54 PM   #25346
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as i think abt it richard...i can't come up with any reason why it WOULD be good...but im no engineer. just a dumb Marine that loves to go fast
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Old 06-20-2010, 08:29 PM   #25347
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its better to a point, ie. loading up tires progressively, but its not needed. its good for comfort, not handling and grip.
you dont have to be an engineer to know that it shifts the weight the wrong way, and reduces grip.
Well he was saying to give more load on the wheel that is more prone to losing traction...I think...he wasn't talking about progressively loading the tires though. IIRC, he was saying he'd like for a car to have stiff springs but no anti-roll bar, something like that. I dunno, my brain is fried from all this non-math related studying.

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Old 06-20-2010, 08:47 PM   #25348
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im drunk. so no anti-roll bar = roll over? just sayin
i know i konw...im jsut doing a play on words lol.
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Old 06-20-2010, 09:27 PM   #25349
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just got my new rogue engineering dms on the car.sounds damn good.now for this suspension...
I need to hear that sometime, its one of the systems I've been interested in. What part of Norfolk are you in? I work downtown.
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Old 06-20-2010, 09:32 PM   #25350
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I saw whats his face crossing First Colonial today. Green Convertible e46 M3...he was at the hampton AMC meet when we took the drive on colonial parkway.
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Old 06-20-2010, 09:48 PM   #25351
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BENZin this is for you...it's your style buddy.

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Old 06-20-2010, 10:26 PM   #25352
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Saw some dude today in a dark blue or black e46 coupe with some shiny aszs good fitment rims. thought it was snik at first, then saw that it was a coupe, and the widows were tinted out dark. you have to be on here...

I was in the black e36.
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Old 06-20-2010, 11:16 PM   #25353
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What kinda rims? How was JRZ? Richard, no way it can overwhelm grip simply because of body roll, atleast not outer grip. It will unload the inner wheels reducing traction there and making the outer wheels work harder, but its more a function of gross vehicle weight and how much you're asking of the tires rather than simple body roll. All u do when u eliminate body roll is waste less energy since you don't have to wait for the suspension to load up and set as the body rolls to the side, so your steering inputs are more responsive. A huge anti roll bar is like a live axle suspension, so the theory behind. No anti roll bar and stiff springs, is what one side does, is in absolutely no way influencing the other side because of a stiff bar connecting both sides. The dis advantage is, u have no bars to help eliminate roll, so those springs have to be even stiffer since they're doing 100% of the work, and when that happens it takes away from the ride on anything less than a slate flat road surface. Give and take man
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Old 06-21-2010, 12:24 AM   #25354
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BENZin this is for you...it's your style buddy.

lmao. j/k
I just cried a little.
This is the gaudiest MB I ever wanted. I kinda hoped it would just sit there for years and years until I could afford it, but it finally sold.
http://www.hatchandsons.com/pages/sales/JB21/

Not related to anything, but this is another of their cars that I would love to have
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What kinda rims? How was JRZ? Richard, no way it can overwhelm grip simply because of body roll, atleast not outer grip. It will unload the inner wheels reducing traction there and making the outer wheels work harder, but its more a function of gross vehicle weight and how much you're asking of the tires rather than simple body roll. All u do when u eliminate body roll is waste less energy since you don't have to wait for the suspension to load up and set as the body rolls to the side, so your steering inputs are more responsive. A huge anti roll bar is like a live axle suspension, so the theory behind. No anti roll bar and stiff springs, is what one side does, is in absolutely no way influencing the other side because of a stiff bar connecting both sides. The dis advantage is, u have no bars to help eliminate roll, so those springs have to be even stiffer since they're doing 100% of the work, and when that happens it takes away from the ride on anything less than a slate flat road surface. Give and take man
Ah ok. Because of the part in bold, it now all makes sense to me.

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Old 06-21-2010, 06:54 AM   #25355
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Old 06-21-2010, 07:44 AM   #25356
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So I rub slightly in the back with those 15mm spacers. Maybe need to roll that fender lip for some clearance, Rhon you have the info for that guy?
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Old 06-21-2010, 09:52 AM   #25357
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So I rub slightly in the back with those 15mm spacers. Maybe need to roll that fender lip for some clearance, Rhon you have the info for that guy?
WishIHadASilvia on vadriven - I think he has a group roll coming up (or just finished, cant remember)
EDIT: it just finished - just PM him.
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WishIHadASilvia on vadriven - I think he has a group roll coming up (or just finished, cant remember)
EDIT: it just finished - just PM him.
I've PM'ed him, but he's so busy right now hes really only doing group rolls...

although two is a group right?

and edit: stopped by DynoTunedPerformance, its a block from my house. Some really cool guys work there, and the new place looks nice. Maybe for one of our meets we can get a dyno day going...
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Old 06-21-2010, 01:31 PM   #25359
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http://www.hatchandsons.com/pages/sales/JB21/
Damn that's clean.


Ok guys and gals, my euro plates just arrived on my doorstep. Time to go install!
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Old 06-21-2010, 02:03 PM   #25360
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Damn that's clean.
Hatch & Sons is THE place where rich people in MA who are too rich to drive a lowly current-production MB and need to have something exclusive buy their cars. Notice no prices on their website? That's because if you have to ask, you can't afford it. In return you get a car that is pretty much the best example of that model in existance.
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