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Old 08-18-2008, 11:03 PM   #421
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Old 08-23-2008, 03:36 PM   #422
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Just followed this thread and got my components in front, it is not easy and has taken me 3 days as i am not experienced in this. got there in the end, well worth the hassle.
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Old 08-24-2008, 08:21 AM   #423
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I used 6.5" Phoenix gold RSD Components and took the time to seal the speaker holder to the door with Dynamat. I used a Dynamat speaker kit, not the fill doorkit. I did cut the door, no probs with a Dremel, make sure you put the window up when you cut otherwise you get metal splatter on the glass.
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I also just bought the Focal 6.5 speakers which I would like to mount to the metal door. If you have taken the measurements, could you please tell me which rings you bought so I can double check against my measurements? I copped out & have them mounted to the inner fiber panel now, but the panel really vibrates with any volume. The speakers do sound very good, though!

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Old 08-26-2008, 04:11 PM   #425
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You cant really put a measurement on em as i cut the rings (roughy) myself. The regular 6.5" rings were abit to big for the PG speakers. I also had to cut plastic out the door panel to get the rings to fit in. It really is a case of trial and error > reshape > error > cut more > error > sand > nearly there > jigsaw > FORCE > success !!!
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Old 10-02-2008, 03:24 PM   #426
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Very good read and Very useful!

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Thought I share some pics to complement on an already great job by RSL and many others that have contributed in making this a great audio-install thread.

Before I read this thread, I had my midbass mounted to the door panel. This way:



I had used the rotary tool to cut the clip posts to clear the speaker basket:


Then, I got started with the new project: mounting the midbass to the door it-self and making a hole in the door for the midbass:


In this pic, I'm more than half-way through. Look at the line that runs across the marked area in that space. This is like a weld from the door. The upper-left part from this line is about 3mm thick and the lower-right part is thinner, about 1.5mm. All this cutting was done also with the rotary tool using reinforced black disks for metal cutting. As stated before from other members, it took a while but it was a fairly clean cut:


This is when I was just done:


I had begun the cutting with the rotary tool, then tried with a jig saw, but that didn't work-out well cause the blade wasn't long enough to be able to cut in the deeper parts so it bounced-off the door.

Later when I test fitted the speaker and realized it didn't fit. I went to homedepot and bought this Lenox longer and wider blade. This new blade is 10mm longer and that made all the difference. With this lenox blade I made the hole larger and went a lot more faster than with the rotary tool. The only down-side is that the jig saw method scratched more the area around the actual hole:








With the larger hole the speaker did fit. I haven't made the ring and/or baffle for mounting the midbass speaker on the door yet cause of limited time. But that is the next step. Here is what the midbass looks like mounted still to the door panel:


This is a pic of the passenger side kick-panel I made for the mid and tweeter. The grill is temp till I get around making some other or just covering with cloth:
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What ever happened with your subwoofer installation? Did you changed plans?

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So I continued with the woofer install to the door it-self.

Made two MDF rings out of 5/8" MDF sheet. Seen here with the speaker (JL Components)


Marked the space I thought it will be required in order for two of the three plugs that go around the speaker in sedans to continue to work for the door panel.


Mounted the ring with painter's masking tape to make a trial fit of the door panel


Notice clearance for the other plug:


I decided from the beginning that I would do with only two of the three plugs since saving the 3 of them would had been a greater challenge and decided not to go that route for time constraints. Notice third plug's hole blocked.


Put on more tape and colored with a darker marker, then used the mounting screws for the ring to mark the holes to be drilled. I choose to use 3 machine screws with nuts and pressure washers.


Mounted ring, had to buy longer screws to be able to mount the nuts from behind.


Pic showing the space of the gap left between the ring and the door.


Used rubber butyl foam (weather filling) to fill the gap. I'll get dynamat for the door later and do a more lasting solution for the gap.






Mounted speaker at last. Screws for the ring where flushed installed to the ring's level to be able to mount the speaker without the screws heads protruding.


Showing lower clearance for the door panel


Showing the corner clearance


Bottom clearance another angle
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As I mentioned, I decided to use two of the plugs. So I cut the other one


This is how it looked like at the beginning


Then, when I attempted to mount the door panel with the speaker in place, the panel was not going in all the way. So more cutting had to be done.


Notice it is only part of the oem trim ring was sanded down. I think the important part is the the oem mounting nuts for the oem speaker where retained and thus providing an easy path to re-install the stock speaker later on if needed.


Speaker and door panel installed and co-existing without problems. The speaker grill was installed before the final mounting of the panel and the attachment of the door handle.


I only have the passenger speaker mounted so far, I'll do the other speaker probably next weekend.

BTW, This woofer needed 2.75 inch clearance or 70mm. Both rings glued together where are about 30mm, but take into consideration the rings where not installed directly to the door since I put the foam between the rings and the door.

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I have to start doing this next weekend. What did you use to cut the rings? A router is the easiest correct?
What should I use to cut the metal in the doors? A jigsaw seems somewhat dangerous/not enough control
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For the rings I used a jigsaw. I have a small little router with no router table and no circle-jig, so I went with the jigsaw.
You are right about the jigsaw being a little dangerous. I first used a rotary tool (like the dremel) but that takes more time, but has the advantage of having a lot of control for cutting the door. I read also you could use tin snips. Remember the door is actually made from two different gauge sheets. The thinner one will be easy, the thicker one not so easy.
On the jigsaw side, the longer blades (pic above) where what made all the difference for me. Without those the jigsaw was only possible for the part that is level.
As you have a coupe, you should go with the all the instructions and template of RSL.
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For the rings I used a jigsaw.
I thought you used a circle jig. Looks good so far.
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Thank you Halston and Bigjae. Just following the footsteps of RSL and the very helpful comments of all of you guys. I'll keep you posted with updates.
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most advance thread I ever seen for achieving SQ setup on e46 so far
from 6.5 mid mod with detail write up and effort for the pic and template, tweet and sub config, signal process/eq discussion, this is all in one !
cant afford to miss every single page on this thread !!!
you guys definately help with my elate6 3 way install
anyone have any suggestion on the tweet and mid location ?
Im thinking to FG on a pillar....any inputs welcome
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The A pillar seems to be a very good location, it is hard work none the less. Search for a couple of threads by rcurley55, he has his M3 install at cardomain and did a A Pillar install and has usefull pics. I tried to find the link but could not find it fast enough. I have kick-panels, so no much of a help from my side. Just as an idea, you could modified the part behind the side mirrors and make a base to aim the tweeters to the windshield and see if that's a good way to go, might be worth the compromise between sound Q and install/aesthetics, just my two cents.
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jae, I've just been busy on weekends since we got back and this weekend I have work to do again. I will get it finished for sure, but in the meantime I am just enjoying it and trying to decide between an MDF box, fg box in the battery corner and (believe it or not) still toying with the idea of trying to fit 2 10s inside in the rear quarters (IB). I am mostly thinking about which box though and will get around to it one of these weekends.

I hope everything is going as well is it can on your end...
I know this quote is from two years ago....but....RSL or bigjae, if you know,
what ever happened to the final sub box and the FI Q12? I don't know if I recall correctly but did you changed the sub for something else?
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The A pillar seems to be a very good location, it is hard work none the less. Search for a couple of threads by rcurley55, he has his M3 install at cardomain and did a A*****ar install and has usefull pics. I tried to find the link but could not find it fast enough. I have kick-panels, so no much of a help from my side. Just as an idea, you could modified the part behind the side mirrors and make a base to aim the tweeters to the windshield and see if that's a good way to go, might be worth the compromise between sound Q and install/aesthetics, just my two cents.
I have mine in the A pillar close to the dash. I really think the sail panel behind the mirror has the potential to be the sweet spot.

From my experience, the A pillar seems to move the stage forward and up but you lose some width. The doors make it kind to tough to get the stage past the windshield. I think the sail panels will pose a problem with centering the image.

I have not really played with the tuning a whole lot though. I would like to get as much as I can just with speaker placement/orientation.

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what ever happened to the final sub box and the FI Q12? I don't know if I recall correctly but did you changed the sub for something else?
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I think RSL stopped work. I changed to an Ascendant Audio Havoc 12. Honestly, I kind of preferred the Q12 but there is a minimal difference between the Q and Havoc.
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Did you still have it in a sealed enclosure? If I recall correctly you had it place in the corner of the trunk.....or not.
Enclosure MDF only or partially Fiberglass?

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