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Old 05-30-2007, 11:46 AM   #21
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i don't see why it makes no sense....

To increase light output, I bought P46s with 6k xenon bulbs... then, to match my fogs, I went with 6k xenon bulbs in my fogs as well.

The resulting product gives more light output and looks damn sexy

Well, fog lamps arent driving lamps first of all, its all for appearence. Im more function over form, always have been, and only make rational moves when it comes to lighting modifications given that I work with automotive lights every day.

If you had stock xenons, you decreased your light output when you when to 6000k bulbs. The fact that you even said 6k, already meant that you were unaware of the temperature ratings and light output.

Nothing wrong with having 6000k bulbs, they sure "looks cool" to some people, but to me that looks ricey.

Im here to educate, not to flame, so I hope I dont give off the wrong impression.
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Old 05-30-2007, 12:51 PM   #22
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Well, fog lamps arent driving lamps first of all, its all for appearence. Im more function over form, always have been, and only make rational moves when it comes to lighting modifications given that I work with automotive lights every day.

If you had stock xenons, you decreased your light output when you when to 6000k bulbs. The fact that you even said 6k, already meant that you were unaware of the temperature ratings and light output.

Nothing wrong with having 6000k bulbs, they sure "looks cool" to some people, but to me that looks ricey.

Im here to educate, not to flame, so I hope I dont give off the wrong impression.
I'm only speaking of the quality HID systems that are sold like the Piccolo 1 year warranty systems and the Prolumen lifetime warranty systems with digital slim ballasts.

There are 3 main reasons for doing HID fogs and they have equal value:

1) Color matching the front of your car. Aesthetics are important to many people. Some examples are below:
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2) Output requirements for some dark roads are greater than on others. If you drive in a rural area, you need more usable light

Just fogs:


Lows and Fogs:


3) Longevity of regular bulbs is usually 1/10th that of HID. Halogen bulbs will usually be replaced 2-4 times per year (if the fogs are used) whereas HID bulbs are usually good for up to 5 years. Factor in replacement costs and it's not hard to guess which one is more cost effective.
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Old 05-30-2007, 01:39 PM   #24
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thats what I said



for the most part....

you have to give me some kind of credit though for being unique

I'll be getting HIDs in August when I get back....
absolutely. Bro, i love your car and was not at your ride just at the bulbs. You definitely went out on a limb there and i give you tons of credit for it. Just, next time around, go with xenons

I still love ur sig (both the sexy car and the sexy girl)
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Well, fog lamps arent driving lamps first of all, its all for appearence. Im more function over form, always have been, and only make rational moves when it comes to lighting modifications given that I work with automotive lights every day.

If you had stock xenons, you decreased your light output when you when to 6000k bulbs. The fact that you even said 6k, already meant that you were unaware of the temperature ratings and light output.

Nothing wrong with having 6000k bulbs, they sure "looks cool" to some people, but to me that looks ricey.

Im here to educate, not to flame, so I hope I dont give off the wrong impression.

A few things...

1) as you can probably tell from my car, I am all about form over function. Body kits, big wheels, etc are never performance oriented. Plus, given my non-m status, I know that I won't be getting crazy power anytime soon and except that.

2) I am actually very educated on the lighting world. Sure I could have said 6kk but that just sounds a little stupid and would confuse more people (although 6k is actually incorrect).

Now, I respect your opinion and stance but, can't say i respect the tone you took when writing your response to me. Keep that in line in the future as upsetting others is, by no means, the point of this forum.
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absolutely. Bro, i love your car and was not at your ride just at the bulbs. You definitely went out on a limb there and i give you tons of credit for it. Just, next time around, go with xenons

I still love ur sig (both the sexy car and the sexy girl)
I know what you meant....I'm right there with you. I def should have gone with Xenon.

But it is kind of fun saying I have LED fog lights....

thanks bro.

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A few things...

1) as you can probably tell from my car, I am all about form over function. Body kits, big wheels, etc are never performance oriented. Plus, given my non-m status, I know that I won't be getting crazy power anytime soon and except that.

2) I am actually very educated on the lighting world. Sure I could have said 6kk but that just sounds a little stupid and would confuse more people (although 6k is actually incorrect).

Now, I respect your opinion and stance but, can't say i respect the tone you took when writing your response to me. Keep that in line in the future as upsetting others is, by no means, the point of this forum.
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off topic... how is "6k" incorrect? I assume that would mean 6000 which would correlate to the color temperature, right ?
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nothing will quite hit that color besides HIDs. We have kits from 175
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A few things...

1) as you can probably tell from my car, I am all about form over function. Body kits, big wheels, etc are never performance oriented. Plus, given my non-m status, I know that I won't be getting crazy power anytime soon and except that.

2) I am actually very educated on the lighting world. Sure I could have said 6kk but that just sounds a little stupid and would confuse more people (although 6k is actually incorrect).

Now, I respect your opinion and stance but, can't say i respect the tone you took when writing your response to me. Keep that in line in the future as upsetting others is, by no means, the point of this forum.

No worries mate. Thats why I even agve a warning before waiting for a response, I didnt want to give off the wrong tone.

Just say 6000k, as thats the proper terminology, not confusing at all

You said you upgraded to 6000k, and I wanted to correct you by saying this was a downgrade in terms of performance aspects since your losing light output, but I believe you meant upgrade as in appearence, and that you are entitled to your own opinion.

So my question is, did you have stock xenons ?
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off topic... how is "6k" incorrect? I assume that would mean 6000 which would correlate to the color temperature, right ?
Even though some people say 6k or 8k, or 10k, its not correct. Im sure we all mean the same thing, but 6000k is the proper terminology.
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So my question is, did you have stock xenons ?
Nope... upgraded from halogens so, both in performance and appearance, it was an upgrade for me

For those with oem xenons, i know exactly what you mean, and have seen the "downgrade" in light output first hand
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Nope... upgraded from halogens so, both in performance and appearance, it was an upgrade for me

For those with oem xenons, i know exactly what you mean, and have seen the "downgrade" in light output first hand
Im glad we are on the same page
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Can someone answer the question please ? I am not doing it for the output, but for the color to just be blue. Are these really blue or do they look white with a hint ?
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M3tofast your question was answered by our post.
yeah, I answered you a while ago.

yes they will be blue

dont do it

they're illegal.

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Even though some people say 6k or 8k, or 10k, its not correct. Im sure we all mean the same thing, but 6000k is the proper terminology.
Well, technically "6000k" is also incorrect since the symbol for kelvin is a capital 'K'. I figured that was understood though when talking about color temperature. So in my head the 'k' in "6k" stood for the 1000 multiplier (ie. 6000) and the 'K' or "Kelvin" was just understood to be there. :-D
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Its all good, misunderstanding, im done whoring this thread up!
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on this pic which bulb you are using for the fogs??
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I love my HID fogs.. i bought HID "like" bulbs from modbargins at first, then said nah.. i really want the full on look.. and every time i pull up to get gas at night with them on.. i always get a compliment on them def worth the money!! and saftey!
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