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Old 09-03-2007, 12:12 PM   #41
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Hey Chris, for months now i've been researching and test driving car after car and you've finally made the decision for me. Originally I was thinking about upgrading my e46 to an M3, but I really wanted to add some extra horsepower to it. Wasn't too into the superchargers, and I was leaning towards the 335i. I've been a die hard e46 fan and never want to move away from it, even thought about keeping my current e46 and gutting it out with an m3 engine. After seeing your turbo kit my decision is made! The kit looks, performs, and sounds amazing and i'm really excited to have one installed. I like the fact that its very stealth, and can be used as a daily driver. Now all i have to do is go find a low mileaged m3. To be honest I'm not that great at driving stick, and would prefer to get an SMG transmission, compared to the stick version, which seems to perform better. Great job with the kit, i've been waiting for something like this for awhile.

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Thanks to horsepower freaks for finally putting a kit on themarket that is going to make your m3 a really fast machine. With this kit m3's finally have a chance of breaking 10's in the 1/4 and it about time!
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Old 09-03-2007, 05:11 PM   #43
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i dont get why nobody hasnt broke into the 10's yet. has nobody used a built motor and tried a pair of slicks?
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Old 09-03-2007, 09:03 PM   #44
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i dont get why nobody hasnt broke into the 10's yet. has nobody used a built motor and tried a pair of slicks?
yea i think taza has tried but still has tire issues
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Old 09-03-2007, 10:13 PM   #46
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yea i think taza has tried but still has tire issues
Correction, he had "track" issues. LACR has a brutal reputation...probably why it's been closed.
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Old 09-04-2007, 04:09 AM   #47
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Correction, he had "track" issues. LACR has a brutal reputation...probably why it's been closed.
Correct it was more of a track issue, my tires are OK but they can also be better. They hook sometimes in 2nd on the streets (high boost). At the track the car couldn't hook 2nd 3rd or 4th in low boost (thats how bad the track was).

Hopefully winter time i can get to a good track somewhere, this car should be easy low 10's.
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Are you talking about 'The' Fabio? Like the guy who thinks its margerine?
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Old 09-04-2007, 10:19 AM   #49
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got love being the first canadian guy to get this congrats see you around.
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Old 09-04-2007, 12:32 PM   #50
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how much does this hpf turbo cost canadian?
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Old 09-04-2007, 01:21 PM   #51
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well take todays exchange rate and do the math
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Wow. So uh.... can HPF strap a turbo on a 330i ZHP??

I'll drive up to Portland... it's not too far. I can't seem to find a decent tuner on the West Coast....
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how much does this hpf turbo cost canadian?
About the price of a Hyundai if you use the F/X calculator here

Converting 17025.60 Canadian Dollars to U.S. Dollars will yield 16000.00 U.S. Dollars.
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About the price of a Hyundai if you use the F/X calculator here

Converting 17025.60 Canadian Dollars to U.S. Dollars will yield 16000.00 U.S. Dollars.
I would take the HPF turbo kit over a stupid Hyundai any day. It's worth it!
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I would take the HPF turbo kit over a stupid Hyundai any day. It's worth it!
agreed ....yea how about that....are you guys developing a system for non m3 e46's by any chance?
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Did you guys ever dyno any of these cars before the installation began for a before/after comparison?
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Taz, I did dyno my car on a dynojet dyno:

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Taz, I did dyno my car on a dynojet dyno:

Stock: 271RWHP
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If your car gave you 438 rwhp on pump gas with the AA gen 2 stage 2 why would you go to a kit that gives 415-425 rwhp?
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probably because he could flip the switch an make it a 600+rwhp system.
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Thanks to horsepower freaks for finally putting a kit on themarket that is going to make your m3 a really fast machine. With this kit m3's finally have a chance of breaking 10's in the 1/4 and it about time!
Thanks. 10's can easily be had with some traction. We'll get down to business at the track sometime soon. We're now in a production mode making sure every M3 leaves here perfect.

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If your car gave you 438 rwhp on pump gas with the AA gen 2 stage 2 why would you go to a kit that gives 415-425 rwhp?
AA stage 2 uses water injection which allows more boost to be run. To be fair and compare apples to apples, either compare those #'s to the HPF race fuel numbers, or compare them to the HPF stage 2 which will use methanol injection. Stage 2 will be completed very shortly and will simply plug right in and should make in excess of 500rwhp on 91 octane pump. 91-93 octane pump gas only allows 5-6 psi to be run safely as a result of the 11.5:1 compression. This normalizes the playing field and makes many kits appear to make the same power. However, one should also consider that the area under the power curve is considerably different even if peak #'s are the same. When lower compression pistons are run (e.g. in our stage 3) or when other forms of fuel are used (e.g. methanol, water injection or race fuel) then the boost can be raised (even with the high compression) and significantly more power can be had.

Here's another reason, and Jim only had 550rwhp on race fuel due to unleaded gas and a cat.



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Did you guys ever dyno any of these cars before the installation began for a before/after comparison?
On some cars. The LSB SMG M3 in our shop made 261rwhp (it has the Dinan $14K package).

Fabio's car is not in a dyno-able state as it just had a S/C taken off of it. We generally know within a couple % what every M3 is going to make before we modify it.

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agreed ....yea how about that....are you guys developing a system for non m3 e46's by any chance?
Absolutely. There will be many more kits to follow starting with the E46 330i.

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Hey Chris, for months now i've been researching and test driving car after car and you've finally made the decision for me. Originally I was thinking about upgrading my e46 to an M3, but I really wanted to add some extra horsepower to it. Wasn't too into the superchargers, and I was leaning towards the 335i. I've been a die hard e46 fan and never want to move away from it, even thought about keeping my current e46 and gutting it out with an m3 engine. After seeing your turbo kit my decision is made! The kit looks, performs, and sounds amazing and i'm really excited to have one installed. I like the fact that its very stealth, and can be used as a daily driver. Now all i have to do is go find a low mileaged m3. To be honest I'm not that great at driving stick, and would prefer to get an SMG transmission, compared to the stick version, which seems to perform better. Great job with the kit, i've been waiting for something like this for awhile.

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Jason... Thanks for the comments. If you need any help, don't hesitate to ask.

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