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Old 10-23-2014, 02:37 PM   #1
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2015 WRX? or what else? UPDATE: Bought a WRX

My zhp is getting up there in miles and I've had it for almost 9 years. It's still a very solid car but it's had its German reliability quirks along the way. Basically I'm looking for something new/different.

The 2015 WRX has caught my eye. Nice redesign and finally a decent interior.

Anybody have one? Thoughts on it.

Obviously I still want a driver focused car.

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$30k ish.
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awd desirable

Others I'm tossing around in my head are CPOd 335 or S4.

The upcoming Golf R seems nice too. The S3 is nice but expensive.

Will I miss BMW?

Side note...when did cars get so expensive? ! #imgettingcheapandbeingmoreresponsible.



**********************UPDATE 01-30-2015*********************

I ended up buying a 2015 WRX Limited (Ice Silver Metallic)

First impressions of the car before break-in: Fun, Fun, Fun.

Interior: It's actually really nice. I got the Navigation so its nice coming from the stock BMW Professional radio to have all the bells and whistles (i.e. bluetooth, ipod connection, nav, etc). Interior room is slightly larger than the ZHP too. Baby seat fits better allowing front passenger more room. Fit an finish is at or above comparable cars in the market. It's obviously not BMW, Merc, or Lexus quality but its as good or better than my 12 yr old ZHP was.

Exterior: Some hate it. I like it. LED headlights are pretty sweet. I added tint already which makes its look pretty nice. Not a fan of the stock wheels so they became my winter wheels with snow tires mounted already. I'm looking for some nice 18s for the summer.

Performance: Faster and corners better than my ZHP for sure. AWD and 6 speed is hard to find these days so definite plus. The only thing not as good as the ZHP is the brakes. It came with the Sti exhaust and short shift kit from factory so they add to the fun factor. The exhaust is a little louder than stock and looks nice. Short shift kit is an improvement over stock, but I'm sure there are some aftermarket ones that are better.

Thanks for the recommendations. I went with my gut feeling on this one and so far I'm really happy with my choice.






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Old 10-23-2014, 02:42 PM   #2
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You can probably also find a CPO 4th Gen TL 6MT AWD for ~$30k but it's big and fugly. Certainly not slow though.

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Old 10-23-2014, 02:52 PM   #3
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Old 10-23-2014, 02:57 PM   #4
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I just see a WRX and think "juvenile" or "young kid" (...kinda like the drivers of the 5 WRX STI's that surrounded me in an attempt to lure me into an exhibition of speed last Tuesday night as I traveled westbound on the 60 freeway). All mod potential aside................buy a more grown up car. How old are you? <----Serious question! It wasn't meant to be disparaging.

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Old 10-23-2014, 02:59 PM   #5
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WRX ftw.

Screw the 335. When replacing the battery you'd have to get it programmed/registered to the car. Seriously? SERIOUSLY?! I'm waiting to see what BS they come up with next to steal more of your money.

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Old 10-23-2014, 03:03 PM   #6
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Screw the 335. When replacing the battery you'd have to get it programmed/registered to the car. Seriously? SERIOUSLY?! I'm waiting to see what BS they come up with next to steal more of your money.
So you write off the qualities of the car over a battery? I know a lot of guys that have moved to smaller batteries. Registering a battery with the electronics is not a big deal. It has been this way on most modern BMW's.

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=418907

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Old 10-23-2014, 03:08 PM   #7
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Old 10-23-2014, 03:09 PM   #8
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His budget is $30k. A new M235iCivicSI won't fit into that budget. Hell, a brand new CivicSi barely fits into that budget.
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Old 10-23-2014, 03:18 PM   #9
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i just see a wrx and think "juvenile" or "young kid" (...kinda like the drivers of the 5 wrx sti's that surrounded me in an attempt to lure me into an exhibition of speed last tuesday night as i traveled westbound on the 60 freeway). All mod potential aside................buy a more grown up car. How old are you? <----serious question! It wasn't meant to be disparaging.
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Old 10-23-2014, 03:18 PM   #11
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so you write off the qualities of the car over a battery? I know a lot of guys that have moved to smaller batteries. Registering a battery with the electronics is not a big deal. It has been this way on most modern bmw's.

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=418907
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Old 10-23-2014, 03:22 PM   #12
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I just see a WRX and think "juvenile" or "young kid" (...kinda like the drivers of the 5 WRX STI's that surrounded me in an attempt to lure me into an exhibition of speed last Tuesday night as I traveled westbound on the 60 freeway). All mod potential aside................buy a more grown up car. How old are you? <----Serious question! It wasn't meant to be disparaging.

I'm 33 with 1 kid who is 3 months old. So I have the same concerns. My previous car was a modded 99 civic si so I completely get it because towards the end of that ownership I wanted something more mature. Not to say been there done that but I want something enjoyable to drive regardless of the car culture reputation that it might bring with it. And I'm not even considering the Sti because I don't like the wing nor do I see the value in spending the extra money.

But yeah point definitely considered. Thanks.
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So you write off the qualities of the car over a battery? I know a lot of guys that have moved to smaller batteries. Registering a battery with the electronics is not a big deal. It has been this way on most modern BMW's.

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=418907

Yes and because I also have one. I just think it's an unnecessary nuisance to make you pay more. That's a pet peeve I can't tolerate.


Edit: Also there's no spare tire or tire compartment in the trunk either. Now, do you see why I don't like this car? Lol. I wish I could go back to 2008 and un-buy it.

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Old 10-23-2014, 03:51 PM   #14
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I don't think the WRX or STI screams juvenile/kid. If it's modded to look as such (giant can exhaust, ridiculous looking lighting, etc.) then it will look like that. However, in absence of that, it's a great bang for the buck kid hauler that still maintains a performance edge.

Edit: At the end of the day, if you like how it drives/looks, it meets your budget, need, etc. then who gives an ish what bystanders think of it
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i don't think the wrx or sti screams juvenile/kid. If it's modded to look as such (giant can exhaust, ridiculous looking lighting, etc.) then it will look like that. However, in absence of that, it's a great bang for the buck kid hauler that still maintains a performance edge.

Edit: At the end of the day, if you like how it drives/looks, it meets your budget, need, etc. Then who gives an ish what bystanders think of it

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I just see a WRX and think "juvenile" or "young kid" (...kinda like the drivers of the 5 WRX STI's that surrounded me in an attempt to lure me into an exhibition of speed last Tuesday night as I traveled westbound on the 60 freeway). All mod potential aside................buy a more grown up car. How old are you? <----Serious question! It wasn't meant to be disparaging.
yep, same here. no offense to the car or to the driver itself, but its a kids car. imagine having a 325i back in the day and then considering driving an Eclipse GSX? You are going in reverse lol.

Same goes for the Evo as well, as much as i love the VII and VIII... tweenie cars with a good amount of power.

For $30k however, you can easily get a really nice car that is a year or two old and (hopefully) still has the manufacturer's warranty. Thats the way to go IMO. You beat most of the depreciation and when a car has 15-25k miles, its still new compared to most cars, especially the one you are trading in
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yep, same here. no offense to the car or to the driver itself, but its a kids car. imagine having a 325i back in the day and then considering driving an Eclipse GSX? You are going in reverse lol.

Same goes for the Evo as well, as much as i love the VII and VIII... tweenie cars with a good amount of power.

For $30k however, you can easily get a really nice car that is a year or two old and (hopefully) still has the manufacturer's warranty. Thats the way to go IMO. You beat most of the depreciation and when a car has 15-25k miles, its still new compared to most cars, especially the one you are trading in
I agree about the Evo....I felt like a ***** in that when I owned one 10 years ago.

Although, he's considering going from an '03 E46 to a '15 WRX....I would hardly say that's going in reverse.

I agree that if his only requirements are 30k, awd and manual there are some fancier options out there. I think he would be hard pressed to find something as fun as an STI with that criteria, though.
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I agree about the Evo....I felt like a ***** in that when I owned one 10 years ago.

Although, he's considering going from an '03 E46 to a '15 WRX....I would hardly say that's going in reverse.

I agree that if his only requirements are 30k, awd and manual there are some fancier options out there. I think he would be hard pressed to find something as fun as an STI with that criteria, though.
The "going in reverse" comment was only in reference to the type of car. I'm not giving the BMW the "almighty" treatment however a teenager tuner dream car with a stock ironing board as a spoiler is not how i would want to portray myself at anytime after the age of 21.

Obviously the car is much more capable than a lot of BMW's, old and new, is AWD, and is pretty damn good for the money as well, just not very tasteful IMO for an adult, unless it is a track car obviously.
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It's only a teen car because it's JDM. You really think 16 YO kids are driving $40k cars? Most of the time no.

I hate the redesign of the wrx. I think it looks bad. This is coming from someone who preferred the '04 sedan sti looks though.
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