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Old 04-15-2008, 12:12 AM   #81
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I love seeing threads like this... DIY teaches people how to graduate from just being a driver to being a OWNER!
I don't know if I can fully agree with this statement... some people like myself aren't able to do this particular S/C DIY due to medical reasons, therefore I require assistance from a professional... I still consider myself both a driver and owner.

I have done more simpler DIY's such as interior trim install and it was very gratifying to me once I completed the project myself.
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now, it makes me think whether I should DIY my future SC or not. It's always true some where in the line there's a problem or two that's so hard to figure out in most of the so called, "In depth" installation.
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now, it makes me think whether I should DIY my future SC or not. It's always true some where in the line there's a problem or two that's so hard to figure out in most of the so called, "In depth" installation.
Ken,

Here was my feeling on to DIY or pay a professional. From what I read on the forums, quite a number of people ran into install problems when they hired a professional. Unless I could find an installer that had experience with FI on BMW's, I was commited to DIY.

I think if you have a Bentley manual, the appropriate tools, metric hex bits, torx bits, 3/8 and 1/2in metric sockets wrenches, a real floor jack, jack stands and expereince working on cars, you can tackle it. When I say experiece, I mean experience.

Just to give you an idea of my experience, I am 41, I've pulled engines swapped trannys etc. Even with that kind of experience I was still intimidated by the pletheroa of lines, hoses and electrical connections underneath the hood of the car. The thing that I questioned was do I still have the patience to do this kind of work! The most important thing you need that you will not find in your tool box is patience and time.

Fortuantely, I have no time constraints on finishing this project which has helped me immensely. This allows me to thoroughly read and comprehend the install instructions before I proceed. I would suggest if you are contemplating a DIY, get yourself the install manual from ESS and read it over. It really is one of the most thorough install manuals I have seen. There are a few vague areas, like finding the hidden manifold bolt that I took a picture of! Other than that and the mounting of the few items I snapped pictures of, it looks alot more complicated than it really is.

We're here for ya Ken if you decide to tackle it!
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Stuart.....did you find that split loom locally at a auto parts store?
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Nice progress. I was a bit confused about some electrical connections myself, but they all seem to match up nicely, even the couple that aren't as clearly listed in the ESS manual. Oh and I'd keep the pulley off until you're ready to put the belt in there. Keep us posted!
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I don't know if I can fully agree with this statement... some people like myself aren't able to do this particular S/C DIY due to medical reasons, therefore I require assistance from a professional... I still consider myself both a driver and owner.

I have done more simpler DIY's such as interior trim install and it was very gratifying to me once I completed the project myself.
Your last sentence completely makes his point - you have the pride of knowing you did stuff to your car yourself - we ALLLLLL understand you have your limitations (I think people who dont own E46's yet know too,...jk bud). So no one is knocking you for not doing the install. But Todd is 100% right, doing it yourself and getting everything working is such a high...its incredible. I am scared and excited all at the same time about taking my engine apart soon. I will either fail and have to call on "professionals" that in the past have made matters worse - or I will be successful and be happy as a lark.

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now, it makes me think whether I should DIY my future SC or not. It's always true some where in the line there's a problem or two that's so hard to figure out in most of the so called, "In depth" installation.
Do it yourself - less problems I think and if there is a problem - you will know where and what to look for instead of relying on a "professional" to fuk things up more.

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Ken,

Here was my feeling on to DIY or pay a professional. From what I read on the forums, quite a number of people ran into install problems when they hired a professional. Unless I could find an installer that had experience with FI on BMW's, I was commited to DIY.

I think if you have a Bentley manual, the appropriate tools, metric hex bits, torx bits, 3/8 and 1/2in metric sockets wrenches, a real floor jack, jack stands and expereince working on cars, you can tackle it. When I say experiece, I mean experience.

Just to give you an idea of my experience, I am 41, I've pulled engines swapped trannys etc. Even with that kind of experience I was still intimidated by the pletheroa of lines, hoses and electrical connections underneath the hood of the car. The thing that I questioned was do I still have the patience to do this kind of work! The most important thing you need that you will not find in your tool box is patience and time.

Fortuantely, I have no time constraints on finishing this project which has helped me immensely. This allows me to thoroughly read and comprehend the install instructions before I proceed. I would suggest if you are contemplating a DIY, get yourself the install manual from ESS and read it over. It really is one of the most thorough install manuals I have seen. There are a few vague areas, like finding the hidden manifold bolt that I took a picture of! Other than that and the mounting of the few items I snapped pictures of, it looks alot more complicated than it really is.

We're here for ya Ken if you decide to tackle it!
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Stuart.....did you find that split loom locally at a auto parts store?
Yes - the local NAPA store had the split loom and the cloth wrap
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Your last sentence completely makes his point - you have the pride of knowing you did stuff to your car yourself - we ALLLLLL understand you have your limitations (I think people who dont own E46's yet know too,...jk bud). So no one is knocking you for not doing the install. But Todd is 100% right, doing it yourself and getting everything working is such a high...its incredible. I am scared and excited all at the same time about taking my engine apart soon. I will either fail and have to call on "professionals" that in the past have made matters worse - or I will be successful and be happy as a lark.
I agree.

Check out my pics in my thread, Stuart... only thing that I'll need my mechanic to address is the PS reservoir tank needing to sit lower... other than that... WOW! That one word sums up how I feel right now.
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Congrats Navin! Glad this has all come together to your satisfaction.

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Congrats Navin! Glad this has all come together to your satisfaction.

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Thanks Darren! I'm sure Fran won't mind... we've been posting so much in each other's threads that even I get confused sometimes which thread is which, LOL.

By the way Fran, you look a lot YOUNGER than 41 (I would never have guessed that to be your age).
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damn - Fran is 41 - he has me beat by a year...he does look young
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damn - Fran is 41 - he has me beat by a year...he does look young
That new TS3 you just bought will make you look years younger too.
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damn - Fran is 41 - he has me beat by a year...he does look young
Stuart here on the other hand looks old enough to be my dad... j/k.

I'm a very old 34 by the way, Fran.
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That new TS3 you just bought will make you look years younger too.
nothing will make me look younger but losing weight and having hair replanted like a garden....

i just play like a yungun
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The winter wooly adds 10 years....I'm pretty bald underneath!

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Congrats on the TS3 purchase! Was this recent?
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yep - collecting the parts and I will pull the motor and trans after the wedding and start the tear down and re-build.
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Congrats Stuart!! Is the TS3 going to be a DIY??
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