HELP! with Predator Chromium Install (no 56k)

misdirekted · 12-12-2007, 12:56 AM

I've essentially finished installing my new predator chromiums using both the Jlevi DIY and the FastM3 DIY, but the rings aren't turning on. Now I figure since all four of the rings aren't working, I must have a problem with my wiring. I'm using the ECU wire method of installation, but my kit didn't come with the proper wiretaps so I had to make do with a "side-by-side" wiretap which cuts in to both the ECU wire and the one for the angel eyes. (see pic below). Also, the black and white wires from the ballasts didn't have connectors on them, (they did on the DIYs) they were just open wires, so I had to squeeze the red and brown connectors on the ends. The rest of my install was done according to the DIY. I've checked and rechecked the connections and am totally clueless as to why they're not working. If you have any suggestions, or if you see something that I'm missing, please help!

p.s. - If you're in the Riverside/San Diego, CA area I'm willing to pay $50 for you to diagnose and complete the installation. (All the pain in the a** stuff is already done)

Mike415 · 12-12-2007, 01:02 AM

I can only think that either your ground is bad or the ECU wire should be redone. I just installed mine today! Also its a bit dumb, but you are turning the key all the way to 2nd position right? (where the lights on the dash turn on)

Mike415 · 12-12-2007, 01:04 AM

Nevermind

misdirekted · 12-12-2007, 01:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike415

I can only think that either your ground is bad or the ECU wire should be redone. I just installed mine today! Also its a bit dumb, but you are turning the key all the way to 2nd position right? (where the lights on the dash turn on)

Haha yeah, I've turned it on and off about 700 times and a few times to III. I'm pretty sure the ECU wiretap is crap also, but I'm not sure how to fix it.

Mike415 · 12-12-2007, 01:09 AM

I just read that you can buy an 18awg wiretap and use that/ What is that that you are using there? My bet is its a problem in that.

misdirekted · 12-12-2007, 01:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike415

I just read that you can buy an 18awg wiretap and use that/ What is that that you are using there? My bet is its a problem in that.

Not quite sure what it is..basically it has two slots for two wires and a metal "M" shaped piece that clamps down on both to make the connection. I saw the wiretap was blue in the DIYs so I found some blue ones at Lowe's but apparently they won't do the trick..

Mike415 · 12-12-2007, 01:17 AM

I cant see how the other wire makes contact...

misdirekted · 12-12-2007, 01:22 AM

Yeah, I can see the pictures aren't easy to see because they're taken from a side view and the tap is closed. In theory it looks like it should have worked; I even wrapped the stripped areas of both wires together but to no avail..

Mike415 · 12-12-2007, 01:26 AM

^ I was going to say try that. Maybe its something else then. Try a new ground. The M3 writeup gives another location I think. Maybe someone else can think of the problem also.

Mike415 · 12-12-2007, 01:27 AM

Whoa, why is the braded wire put there in the second picture!?!?! There should be no wire there and Im pretty sure thats the ground wire. Move it across the bay. Step 15 on the jlevi writeup

misdirekted · 12-12-2007, 01:30 AM

?? Is that not supposed to go there? In the DIY it says that the braded wire with the ring at the end is the ground connection.

Mike415 · 12-12-2007, 01:32 AM

Ya, move the braded wire across the bay to the ground spot. Step 15. The box stays there. Should work

misdirekted · 12-12-2007, 01:34 AM

I'll give that a shot in a minute, but according to the fastM DIY the ground can go on either:

http://www.fastm.com/m3/angeleyes/angeleyes22.jpg

I'll try it though..

misdirekted · 12-12-2007, 01:44 AM

Nope...didn't work..

Mike415 · 12-12-2007, 01:48 AM

You didnt switch the wires on the rings when you sent them through did you? Or are the connection from the ballasts to the dist. block fine?

Mike415 · 12-12-2007, 01:53 AM

The other place you couldve messed up is in the black connectors. Are all your wires inserted correctly from the rings. IE plugged all the way in and in 1,3

numba1guju · 12-12-2007, 01:57 AM

check the fuse in the ballast?...could have blown by accident...wouldnt know how it would have but worth checkin

silentak1 · 12-12-2007, 02:22 AM

I actually might be in Riverside tomorrow (and I'm there once every ten years only!). I can check it out for you; I did this install on my car about two weeks ago so it's still fresh in my mind.

PM me so we can meet up.

bronxbomerss2 · 12-12-2007, 03:29 AM

check to make sure ur ground is hitting correctly to the metal, i know i had to wiggle mine arround to get it in place so that it would stay on!

Mike415 · 12-12-2007, 03:31 AM

He has tried two different ground locations. But just go over all your wire connections which Im sure you've done.

12-12-2007, 12:56 AM	#1
misdirekted Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: S. California Posts: 61 My Ride: E46 Sedan View My Garage	HELP! with Predator Chromium Install (no 56k) I've essentially finished installing my new predator chromiums using both the Jlevi DIY and the FastM3 DIY, but the rings aren't turning on. Now I figure since all four of the rings aren't working, I must have a problem with my wiring. I'm using the ECU wire method of installation, but my kit didn't come with the proper wiretaps so I had to make do with a "side-by-side" wiretap which cuts in to both the ECU wire and the one for the angel eyes. (see pic below). Also, the black and white wires from the ballasts didn't have connectors on them, (they did on the DIYs) they were just open wires, so I had to squeeze the red and brown connectors on the ends. The rest of my install was done according to the DIY. I've checked and rechecked the connections and am totally clueless as to why they're not working. If you have any suggestions, or if you see something that I'm missing, please help! p.s. - If you're in the Riverside/San Diego, CA area I'm willing to pay $50 for you to diagnose and complete the installation. (All the pain in the a** stuff is already done) Attached Thumbnails

12-12-2007, 01:27 AM	#10
Mike415 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Marin, CA Posts: 445 My Ride: '02 330i View My Garage	Whoa, why is the braded wire put there in the second picture!?!?! There should be no wire there and Im pretty sure thats the ground wire. Move it across the bay. Step 15 on the jlevi writeup Last edited by Mike415; 12-12-2007 at 01:29 AM.

12-12-2007, 01:57 AM	#17
numba1guju Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: under a rock Posts: 1,070 My Ride: 2013 328i View My Garage	check the fuse in the ballast?...could have blown by accident...wouldnt know how it would have but worth checkin __________________ 2002 325i: Black/Black Mods: Clears, VM V715 Matte Black 19in staggered, 20% tint all around, Suspension Technique Coilovers, p46s 6000k w/ aurora 60LED

12-12-2007, 02:22 AM	#18
silentak1 Banned Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: LA Posts: 799 My Ride: '03 330ci cabrio View My Garage	I actually might be in Riverside tomorrow (and I'm there once every ten years only!). I can check it out for you; I did this install on my car about two weeks ago so it's still fresh in my mind. PM me so we can meet up. Last edited by silentak1; 12-12-2007 at 02:26 AM.

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12-12-2007, 01:02 AM	#2
Mike415 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Marin, CA Posts: 445 My Ride: '02 330i View My Garage	I can only think that either your ground is bad or the ECU wire should be redone. I just installed mine today! Also its a bit dumb, but you are turning the key all the way to 2nd position right? (where the lights on the dash turn on)

12-12-2007, 01:04 AM	#3
Mike415 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Marin, CA Posts: 445 My Ride: '02 330i View My Garage	Nevermind

12-12-2007, 01:09 AM	#5
Mike415 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Marin, CA Posts: 445 My Ride: '02 330i View My Garage	I just read that you can buy an 18awg wiretap and use that/ What is that that you are using there? My bet is its a problem in that.

12-12-2007, 01:17 AM	#7
Mike415 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Marin, CA Posts: 445 My Ride: '02 330i View My Garage	I cant see how the other wire makes contact...

12-12-2007, 01:22 AM	#8
misdirekted Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: S. California Posts: 61 My Ride: E46 Sedan View My Garage	Yeah, I can see the pictures aren't easy to see because they're taken from a side view and the tap is closed. In theory it looks like it should have worked; I even wrapped the stripped areas of both wires together but to no avail..

12-12-2007, 01:26 AM	#9
Mike415 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Marin, CA Posts: 445 My Ride: '02 330i View My Garage	^ I was going to say try that. Maybe its something else then. Try a new ground. The M3 writeup gives another location I think. Maybe someone else can think of the problem also.

12-12-2007, 01:30 AM	#11
misdirekted Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: S. California Posts: 61 My Ride: E46 Sedan View My Garage	?? Is that not supposed to go there? In the DIY it says that the braded wire with the ring at the end is the ground connection.

12-12-2007, 01:32 AM	#12
Mike415 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Marin, CA Posts: 445 My Ride: '02 330i View My Garage	Ya, move the braded wire across the bay to the ground spot. Step 15. The box stays there. Should work

12-12-2007, 01:34 AM	#13
misdirekted Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: S. California Posts: 61 My Ride: E46 Sedan View My Garage	I'll give that a shot in a minute, but according to the fastM DIY the ground can go on either: http://www.fastm.com/m3/angeleyes/angeleyes22.jpg I'll try it though..

12-12-2007, 01:44 AM	#14
misdirekted Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: S. California Posts: 61 My Ride: E46 Sedan View My Garage	Nope...didn't work..

12-12-2007, 01:48 AM	#15
Mike415 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Marin, CA Posts: 445 My Ride: '02 330i View My Garage	You didnt switch the wires on the rings when you sent them through did you? Or are the connection from the ballasts to the dist. block fine?

12-12-2007, 01:53 AM	#16
Mike415 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Marin, CA Posts: 445 My Ride: '02 330i View My Garage	The other place you couldve messed up is in the black connectors. Are all your wires inserted correctly from the rings. IE plugged all the way in and in 1,3

12-12-2007, 03:29 AM	#19
bronxbomerss2 Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Plainfield,IL Posts: 130 My Ride: 05 325CI View My Garage	check to make sure ur ground is hitting correctly to the metal, i know i had to wiggle mine arround to get it in place so that it would stay on!

12-12-2007, 03:31 AM	#20
Mike415 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Marin, CA Posts: 445 My Ride: '02 330i View My Garage	He has tried two different ground locations. But just go over all your wire connections which Im sure you've done.