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The BMW E46 ///M3 is the M version E46 and puts out an amazing 333 HP and 262 lb-ft of torque at stock specs! There are an amazing amount of modifications for both the coupe and convertible models so read up and get started modifying your cars today!

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Old 12-15-2007, 09:38 PM   #21
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Evidentally some of our members do..(I hope the owner doesn't mind me using these pics)

All I can say is..wow...my winter beater was cleaner than this....


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Old 12-15-2007, 11:36 PM   #22
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omg dude how bad is it for all that salt to be on the paint?
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Old 12-15-2007, 11:56 PM   #23
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Old 12-16-2007, 12:23 AM   #24
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Maybe he has some crazy exotic sports car, and that M3 is his winter beater. If not, then why?
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Old 12-16-2007, 12:51 AM   #25
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No that's his all around car. Track DD Winter driver. He puts an insane amount of wax on before winter, and the dirt/salt comes off easy. This is a car. Paint isn't hurt that easily. The M3 is supposed to be a daily driver, that's part of the awesomeness of the car.

FYI That is Obioban from DER Motorsports.

I drive my car in the winter and I pass SUV's all the time. The car sticks and is fun in the snow. You just have to know how to drive in snow conditions without 4 wheel drive.
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Old 12-16-2007, 01:11 AM   #26
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Where is that pic of Bimmians M3 Covered in Ice
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Old 12-16-2007, 01:25 AM   #27
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omg dude how bad is it for all that salt to be on the paint?
Not bad at all, as long as you wash it off fairly often and clean the underbody. Want proof?

THIS is HIS car cleaned up in the summer time.... feel free to drool... same car...different season

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Old 12-16-2007, 01:28 AM   #28
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I drive my car in the winter and I pass SUV's all the time. The car sticks and is fun in the snow. You just have to know how to drive in snow conditions without 4 wheel drive.
You have to really know how to drive in the snowy/slick conditions regardless of how-many-wheel-drive. I see more 4WD Suv's stuck or crashed after the person driving thought they were invincible with the magic of 4WD. Like it gives you this super power ability to traverse snow as if it were dry asphalt.

My frost mage on wow knows that on the snowy peaks of Winterspring, his mount must be ridden more slowly and carefully.
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Old 12-16-2007, 02:15 AM   #29
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bacck in my e36 m3 and high school days my drive back from high school was a 10min drive, let just say one day it took me 40 (didn't have a choice)
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Old 12-16-2007, 04:42 AM   #30
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well damn then. i need to go wax my baby a couple times before the snow or ice ever rolls in hah
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Old 12-16-2007, 06:57 AM   #31
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I live in Canada and from December to around March we get snow on and off, its not as bad as you might think (I don't drive a sled with dogs pulling it in the winter) .. and we don't use salt on the roads, but i wouldn't put my M through all that, too much to risk, if i ever crashed it i would have a hell of a time trying to replace it.

I drive an awd older toyota, but when i had my e36 i use to drive that in the winter on steelies and winter tires, drove pretty solid.
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Old 12-16-2007, 10:03 AM   #32
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I drive my car in the winter and I pass SUV's all the time. The car sticks and is fun in the snow.
What's your winter setup? I have an extra set of beater m3 staggered 18" rims that i was going to put 225/255 on. Is that what you're running?

I think the bmw recommendation for 17" wheels is to allow more clearance between the wheel well and the snow/ice mucked up tires, not to mention all the ice that accumulates on the wheel well itself. I don't think it has anything to do with traction.
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Old 12-16-2007, 10:25 AM   #33
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Old 12-16-2007, 10:46 AM   #34
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i dont let the salt sit for more than a few days, but i hose it off nightly in the garage to get the majority off, just the thin film stays
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Old 12-16-2007, 11:37 AM   #35
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Yes, I drive it all winter. It's just a car...why anyone would drive a winter beater is beyond me.
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What's your winter setup? I have an extra set of beater m3 staggered 18" rims that i was going to put 225/255 on. Is that what you're running?

I think the bmw recommendation for 17" wheels is to allow more clearance between the wheel well and the snow/ice mucked up tires, not to mention all the ice that accumulates on the wheel well itself. I don't think it has anything to do with traction.
It has everything to do with traction.

You don't want to have staggered wheels if you can help it in the winter time. Contrary to popular belief, a wider tire does NOT give you better traction. Think about it this way, when cutting butter, is it easier to cut through it with the edge of a knife or the knife held flat?

Wider tires will allow ice/snow to build up across the wider tire..It has more surface area to become slick. Narrower tires can only hold a small amount, which makes it easier to either a) melt off or b) fall off.

That said, you also don't want to use ANY kind of V or Z rated tire in the winter. Heck, you don't really want to use an H. Ideally you want a set of winter tires, but at minimum a true all-season tire.
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Old 12-16-2007, 12:29 PM   #37
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I live in Delaware and we will get 1-3 snow falls ranging from 4-20 inches of snow.

With that said I do drive in the snow but try to avoid it at all costs, since I am too poor to get a snow set. I currently use my ZCPs, the car slides but its well under control since the DSC works well. Also I never drive more then 1 or so miles...

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Old 12-16-2007, 01:05 PM   #38
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Most people run 4 OEM 18 FRONTS all around. I am not sure if the rear needs a spacer or not. I'll do some checking.
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Old 12-16-2007, 02:40 PM   #39
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hmmm, good idea...

Maybe buy two sets of M3 OEM 18s and run fronts as snow and rears as race...

But When I get the money to race this will be possible. but for now its 19 ZCPs with toyo t1s taking it slow.
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Old 12-16-2007, 02:50 PM   #40
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my M sits in the garage. I have a Crew Cab Dualie to drive around in the snow.
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