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Old 02-14-2008, 09:07 AM   #1
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HID Xenon Converstion Kit Installation Help!!!!

Ok, so I'm not exactly car savvy when it comes to upgrades and where everything goes, especially when it comes to european cars, so just putting that out there as a disclaimer...

I bought an HID Conversion kid for my 2000 323i to upgrade from standard halogen. Everything went fine, I connected all the lights and wires properly except two wires that are spliced and need to be connected to what the directions call "the position light on the car body harness." I have no idea what this means and it obviously makes a huge difference as the only lights that come on are my High Beams.

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Old 02-14-2008, 09:15 AM   #2
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I would suggest you also buy HID projectors as you will blind oncoming traffic if you use the kit in your halogen housings.

I think position lights are also known as park lights in some countries.

Try to post this or have it moved to the lighting forum. You will get more responses from the experts there.

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Old 02-14-2008, 10:29 AM   #3
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They are projector headlights... thanks for the help though
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Old 02-14-2008, 10:33 AM   #4
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They are supposed to be plug and play and no splicing involved.
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Old 02-14-2008, 10:37 AM   #5
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the position light is what you're drawing your power from ... the positive wire to the positive of the headlight low beam and the same with the negative
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Old 02-14-2008, 10:39 AM   #6
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if you need more help pm me and I'll give you my number to call, I did the same with my depo projectors on my 323i before getting my zhp
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Old 02-14-2008, 10:46 AM   #7
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don;t forget to pull ou fuse 32 or something lol

i got a set of hid conversion isntalled on mine too and loved it
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Old 02-14-2008, 10:48 AM   #8
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Was your kit advertised as plug and play? I was under the assumption most kits now are PNP and require no splicing...

Anyways, you should have spliced into your current low beam harness if splicing was required.

Any chances of taking a picture of where you spliced and maybe we can help you better? From what it sounds like you spliced into the wrong harness maybe?
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Old 02-14-2008, 10:57 AM   #9
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It should be plug n play. You shouldn't have to spice into anything. If you have the two expose wires, you probably will need a wiring plug.

Check out this link, in STEP 5, you will need a plug similar to that. But for an H7 plug (the one with the two pronges).

http://www.visionbulbs.com/HID_inst.html

If you get a "bulb light out" on your dash, use a Capacitor to fix that. No need to pull a fuse.
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Maybe splice was a bad choice of words... the whole set was advertised and plug and play... it came with xenon bulbs preinstalled and the whole package was basically set to go except for some wiring. I have it all mounted and correctly wired except for this set of black and grey wires. There are three pairs that come out of the relay. One set goes to the red and black connector on the left assembly, one set goes to the right assembly and then there is another set that has no connector its just one black and grey set with a plastic tube covering the wires and electrical tape near the tip. The wires are fresh cut with the insulation covering the entirety and no exposed wires... not sure where these go...
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Lets use the install link that I sent you for reference. On STEP 4, look at #3. That is probably the expose wire that you see. On this installation, it has the 9006 plug. On yours, there is no plug, just expose wires. Those are the sensing wire. It tells the relay when to give power to your HIDs. These two wires need to be plug into one of your light bulb wire. Your Harness is not truely plug n play just yet. You still need to hook up an H7 (male) connector to that expose wire. Then hook up that H7 (male) connector to one of your light bulb plug. Look at your halogen bulb. Those two pronge at the end of the bulb, that's what you need, but in a wire form.
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It should be plug n play. You shouldn't have to spice into anything. If you have the two expose wires, you probably will need a wiring plug.

Check out this link, in STEP 5, you will need a plug similar to that. But for an H7 plug (the one with the two pronges).

http://www.visionbulbs.com/HID_inst.html

If you get a "bulb light out" on your dash, use a Capacitor to fix that. No need to pull a fuse.

I used a capacitor to fix my bulb out warning. I worked but my bulbs will flash a few times when I go start the car. I'm sure my hid bulbs won't like that too much. Removing fuse 32 solved this problem.
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But you know what...I don't know if your car is the same as mine, I have a 2004 and I didn't have to use the RELAY at all. Since on the 2004, it's made to house Xenon and Halogen, all the wires and mounting places exist. I just mounted the Ballast to the bottom of the headlamp assembly. Then on the side of the assemby, there is the light plug that connects to your headlamp assembly. if you unplug that, it looks like #1 and #2 on STEP 4. Plug that directly into your Ballast. Then from the Ballast, two wires goes directly into your Xenon Bulbs. So all you have is the Ballast on each side and no need for relay or running wires. Now that is truely plug n play.
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I used a 4700 microfarat capacitor. yeah I get the light bulb on sometimes too. And here is how to fix that.....Just turn on your left or right turn blinker for 2-3 blinks and the bulb lights error goes away. Even with the light bulb error on with the capacitor, it shouldn't cause any issues with your Xenon. the Capacitor helps clean the power and regulate power flucuation when the light bulb error comes on.
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sdbimmer : the only H7 bulbs I have are in my high beam sockets, are those the H7 connectors you are referring to?
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I'm not sure with 2000 models, but I think low beam and high beams are H7. On the outside of the headlamp assembly, there should be two connectors. One for the high and one for the low. Look for the low one, unplug it and see if it will directly plug into your ballast. Then hook up your xenon bulb to the ballast. Light that puppy up and see if it works.

Then turn on your engine and then turn on your lights. If it flickers, then you will need to hook up a capacitor to each wire before it goes into your ballast.
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He has a 99-01 model car I believe. My fixes will work for him.
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sdbimmer : the only H7 bulbs I have are in my high beam sockets, are those the H7 connectors you are referring to?

On the stock housings, both High and low have H7's.
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yeah, but I think he's having issues with the install right now.
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I don't understand it. It's really just plug and play.

OP, does your kit come with dde's or angel eyes?
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