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Old 02-18-2008, 11:32 AM   #1
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Door Handle Fix - Outside no open only

Hi everyone, thought I would give back as I am new around here but have found some good info. After having my passenger door become unopenable from THE OUTSIDE only, I found quite a bit of conflicting info and confusion regarding this issue on various forums. It seems that there are a few different things that can happen that people are mixing up the causes and solutions for. These are:
-Door becomes HARD to open: This requires an adjustment on the outside of the door
-Door won't open period: Not sure what the solution here is
-Door won't open from outside handle only and feels like there is no resistance, i.e. something broke. This is the one I am giving cheap and easy fix to here. You will not require any new parts other than a 50 lb./11 inch zip tie. This problem occurs when someone pulls too hard on the handle, particularly if the door is still locked.

In this instance the clip has broken that holds the cable tight to the carrier assembly. It didnt appear to me like the clip was replacable because the plastic piece I found had broken completely off, plus even if you did replace it, it appears to be a weak link that break again anyway. It takes a little work but eventually you can get the cable guide lined up with a screwdriver and squeeze a finger back there to push it into the guide (if it has come all the way out, if not, even easier for you). Second, use a long zip tie and guide it behind the carrier as shown. Once the cable is pulled tight to the carrier, it won't be able to swing out away from the carrier and give you that loose, broken feeling. Snip the left over zip tie, put everything back together and you are good as new. If you were to buy a new carrier assembly, you will see that they now factory install a zip tie in the exact same way, because they expect for the clip to break.


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Old 02-18-2008, 12:54 PM   #2
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Huh...seems like zip ties are the answer to everything on the E46...
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Old 02-18-2008, 01:41 PM   #3
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For more reading on this problem, click below. I fixed mine with a ziptie as well, although I put the ziptie in a different location. It doesn't matter, as long as you get the clip in the proper slot and the cable is secured to the handle.

http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthr...ht=door+handle
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Old 02-21-2008, 04:43 AM   #4
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oh yes, problem solved! some one with the right answer! truing my best to describe the issue i had, that no one could help me!

thank you! though i have not tried it yet, this weekend will be a good project!
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Old 02-22-2008, 11:26 AM   #5
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I fixed my broken passenger side door handle yesterday. Took about three hours and my only advice is go slow. Otherwise it is a relatively easy job, just time consuming. Thanks for the pictures and description.
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Old 02-25-2008, 02:56 PM   #6
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just got done with mine today, take your time, follow the instructions, and zip tie! took me awhile how to pop out the door panal, less 10 mins out, zip tied it within 30 mintues, test it, and popped with door panal back on and just about over an hour of DIY work!
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Old 04-04-2008, 02:06 PM   #7
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I've tried this and I think my hands are too big because I can't even get it close to the carrier housing.
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Old 04-05-2008, 07:04 AM   #8
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try

I think you can remove the door handle and make the fix from there.
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Old 04-05-2008, 09:56 AM   #9
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Really is there a DIY with pics? I'd really like to get my car back together. lol.
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Old 04-05-2008, 08:02 PM   #10
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When my car was a year or two old this happened to me.

The dealer said they fixed my car with zip ties and I thought they were crazy but I see what is happening.

I'm still left with a different issue, the door closed with a "clank" on the drivers side and smoothly closes on the passenger. I haven't been able to adjust the hook to get it to sound right.

Also my widow itself wobbles, they replaced the regulator but the window still wobbles back and forth.

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Hi everyone, thought I would give back as I am new around here but have found some good info. After having my passenger door become unopenable from THE OUTSIDE only, I found quite a bit of conflicting info and confusion regarding this issue on various forums. It seems that there are a few different things that can happen that people are mixing up the causes and solutions for. These are:
-Door becomes HARD to open: This requires an adjustment on the outside of the door
-Door won't open period: Not sure what the solution here is
-Door won't open from outside handle only and feels like there is no resistance, i.e. something broke. This is the one I am giving cheap and easy fix to here. You will not require any new parts other than a 50 lb./11 inch zip tie. This problem occurs when someone pulls too hard on the handle, particularly if the door is still locked.

In this instance the clip has broken that holds the cable tight to the carrier assembly. It didnt appear to me like the clip was replacable because the plastic piece I found had broken completely off, plus even if you did replace it, it appears to be a weak link that break again anyway. It takes a little work but eventually you can get the cable guide lined up with a screwdriver and squeeze a finger back there to push it into the guide (if it has come all the way out, if not, even easier for you). Second, use a long zip tie and guide it behind the carrier as shown. Once the cable is pulled tight to the carrier, it won't be able to swing out away from the carrier and give you that loose, broken feeling. Snip the left over zip tie, put everything back together and you are good as new. If you were to buy a new carrier assembly, you will see that they now factory install a zip tie in the exact same way, because they expect for the clip to break.


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Old 07-13-2008, 03:51 PM   #11
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Great DIY. I just paid a mechanic $200 to fix passenger side, then the driver side broke. Took me about an hour and cost $.25. THanks everybody for the great tips.
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Old 07-31-2008, 12:37 AM   #12
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For those of you that did this fix, should I roll up or down the window before taking off the window panel?

Anyone that did this fix in SoCal??? Maybe a 12 pack???
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Old 07-31-2008, 07:52 AM   #13
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For those of you that did this fix, should I roll up or down the window before taking off the window panel?

Anyone that did this fix in SoCal??? Maybe a 12 pack???
You don't need to take the window out.
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Old 07-31-2008, 04:34 PM   #14
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Should I roll the window up or down?
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Old 10-03-2008, 02:07 PM   #15
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Definitely up. I finally got this fixed this past weekend but then ran into another problem. The door opened and closed multiple times but then I closed the door, went to the grocery store and my passenger couldn't open the door from the inside or out. Door still has tention but now just won't open. If you pull the inside handle while locked the door lock pops up as normal but nothing. Can't open the door. Any way to get the door open?
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Old 10-03-2008, 09:15 PM   #16
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Well, I've taken my door panel off, but I do not see the actual cable. I noticed the cable which connects the INSIDE door handle to the mechanism, but not the OUTSIDE one. I looked at the exact spot as shown in the pic, and cannot even find the carrier! Also, the cable is supposed to lead from the carrier to where exactly?
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Old 10-27-2008, 01:58 PM   #17
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You have to look really hard. It took me at least 30 minutes to figure out an angle to put lights in and look from underneath, you almost have to lay on the ground. But once you got a good look at it, and put your hand in there to pull the cable out. It will be easier. The biggest hurdle from me is the cable got jamed by the window panel once the window is all the way up and you can't see the cable. So have someone else help to roll down the window a tiny bit at a time, so you can still get to the cable while it's not jammed.

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Well, I've taken my door panel off, but I do not see the actual cable. I noticed the cable which connects the INSIDE door handle to the mechanism, but not the OUTSIDE one. I looked at the exact spot as shown in the pic, and cannot even find the carrier! Also, the cable is supposed to lead from the carrier to where exactly?
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Old 10-27-2008, 02:42 PM   #18
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Thanks a lot. I got it fixed yesterady. The hardest part is tiny space and no light. Very tricky to put a hand in even I had a smaller hand. I was sitting there and fumbling like a blind.

It gets tricky for me that cable got jammed up by the window, so I cannot pull it down and roll down window will block access, so finally got just enough clearance to pull the cable free.

After I got the cable down, tie a zip losly first so it's eaier to line up the cable back to the slot. Finally I tied up two ziptie. Hope it wont broke again. Don't want to repeat this job for sure!

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Hi everyone, thought I would give back as I am new around here but have found some good info. After having my passenger door become unopenable from THE OUTSIDE only, I found quite a bit of conflicting info and confusion regarding this issue on various forums. It seems that there are a few different things that can happen that people are mixing up the causes and solutions for. These are:
-Door becomes HARD to open: This requires an adjustment on the outside of the door
-Door won't open period: Not sure what the solution here is
-Door won't open from outside handle only and feels like there is no resistance, i.e. something broke. This is the one I am giving cheap and easy fix to here. You will not require any new parts other than a 50 lb./11 inch zip tie. This problem occurs when someone pulls too hard on the handle, particularly if the door is still locked.

In this instance the clip has broken that holds the cable tight to the carrier assembly. It didnt appear to me like the clip was replacable because the plastic piece I found had broken completely off, plus even if you did replace it, it appears to be a weak link that break again anyway. It takes a little work but eventually you can get the cable guide lined up with a screwdriver and squeeze a finger back there to push it into the guide (if it has come all the way out, if not, even easier for you). Second, use a long zip tie and guide it behind the carrier as shown. Once the cable is pulled tight to the carrier, it won't be able to swing out away from the carrier and give you that loose, broken feeling. Snip the left over zip tie, put everything back together and you are good as new. If you were to buy a new carrier assembly, you will see that they now factory install a zip tie in the exact same way, because they expect for the clip to break.


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Old 11-16-2008, 12:46 PM   #19
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I have a E46 328CI with this problem. I spent several very frustating hours trying to fix it today. I cannot find this cable anywhere. If one end goes into the door handle mechanism where does the other end go ?

I have the cable going from the inside door release - the white one in cdkons' picture. It goes down to a black box just about where the bottom of the torch is in the photograph.

I can't see anything that looks like the part in 325seeeyes' link.

Help !
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Old 12-12-2008, 04:04 PM   #20
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I'll be attempting this fix on my passenger door shortly... I'll try to get a pic or two if possible.
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