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Old 10-17-2011, 02:00 PM   #5621
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Glad to hear you are ok.

I would like to ask an offshoot question though. As I have been getting used to this bike I noticed that the force required to turn is way different from the ninja. On that bike any turn can be managed by applying a little pressure to that side handle bar.

On the GSXR I have to push it hard, and get on the throttle a bit to keep my line in tighter turns like that. I also noticed this is very dependant on suspension setting. Also If i am sitting up (as much as I can) it requires much more force than if I get down lower on the bike and lean in more.

Is this normal due to the sportbike layout(more weight up front)?
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Old 10-17-2011, 02:11 PM   #5622
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You want to throw a rod in the middle of 95 when you're *hypothetically* running from po po?
by then the bike will be warm if it's gonna throw a rod it will be when its cold at 12k rpm a block from my house

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so what do you guys think about the Continental Conti-Motion Tires? they seem to be priced well and have excellent reviews. Remember I am not going to the track on these but the tires on the GSXR are on their last legs, and I dont like that.
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Old 10-17-2011, 03:56 PM   #5623
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On surprising decrease radius turns, I keep my eye on the place I want to go, lean further off and even more forward towards the front of the bike, give it even more gas, grit my teeth, pucker my bunghole while keeping my arms relaxed.
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Old 10-17-2011, 11:12 PM   #5624
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So today I got cut off on an empty street heading home. Out of nowhere this guy just jumps oin my lane and hits his breaks. On a completely empty street. I hit my brakes, but it was too much bike lowsided. Yes i know i am a squid. And I wont ever ride without gear again. Not sure about the bikes damaged. Just got out of ER. I fvcked up. I know it. Since this is the internet here are pictures.

Hopefully the bike is fixable. The skin will grow back. Guy drove off. Time to send more money, and more time.




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Everything is more or less fine.
Lost skin on both forearms, lower palms, some scrapes on knees.

Also smacked my knee pretty hard.

Otherwise I walked away. Helmet saved my life.
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Old 10-17-2011, 11:27 PM   #5625
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Dude! Glad you're ok, but riding without gear!? Yikes!

I ride in boots, jacket and helmet and usually in jeans. I'm thinking I should wear some protection for my legs as well. How fast were you going?
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Old 10-18-2011, 12:20 AM   #5626
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Dude! Glad you're ok, but riding without gear!? Yikes!

I ride in boots, jacket and helmet and usually in jeans. I'm thinking I should wear some protection for my legs as well. How fast were you going?
Is that not you in the previous page riding in sneakers and shorts with no shirt?

I always have minimum: helmet, jacket, gloves.
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I do...I have warranty
its a Honda, they might tell u some dumb sh1t and deny you. ive seen it happen before. And them new ones are alreadt dodgy with their oil burning issue.

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so what do you guys think about the Continental Conti-Motion Tires
i dunno, those brave enough to try em, say theyre good to go. i know a few cats run their slicks at the track, and have o no issues. also seems like drag race guys like em too, all in all, i havent heard much bad about em come to think of it. im just scared to try em, cause their car tires are just mediocre.

shinkos are garbage. no side grip. thats all im gonna say about em.

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My question is, how do you handle a turn like this where you are certain that you are way to wide? I think I could have pulled it off if I keep looking through the turn but my attention shifted toward a bail point (inexperience kicked in)..
thjats it, you just have to commit. thats what they mean when they say commit to a turn. u went oh snap and looked to the grass, and guess where u went?
Happens to the best of us, caught myself watching gusy fukup at the track yesterday(mon) and what happens, i start fukin up too.

i mean some times you can chop the throttle, but that loads the front, and depending on how that bike is set up or the turn, you MAY OVERLOAD THE FRONT, same with brake, some bikes turn better on the gas, so some bike you would have to maintain the throttle and just commit to make that turn and yank that mofo over.
At pace, you just dip you head in and down and that sthe best way to tighten any line without adjusting the throttle in any way. Watch Casey stoner, he does it EVERY single corner you see him trying to hide his face behind his wrist, hes dipping that head low, bringing that weight inside and low, and it just makes the bike turn.
For a downhill turn you want to be rolling on the gas actually, because a neutral/maintenance throttle, tends to load the front thats already loaded, with the downhill tipping of the bike, and turning. So youre already using up a lot of that $1 that the front has, youre already over 75 cents, so u want to roll on the throttle and shift the weight back and give back a few cents to that $1 so you can spend more on turning.

Glad youre ok tho, thats most important, and the bike not broken up much.

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yep, we stop committing to the turn and start looking where we dont want to end up, and u know how the rest goes.

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I would like to ask an offshoot question though. As I have been getting used to this bike I noticed that the force required to turn is way different from the ninja. On that bike any turn can be managed by applying a little pressure to that side handle bar.

On the GSXR I have to push it hard, and get on the throttle a bit to keep my line in tighter turns like that. I also noticed this is very dependant on suspension setting. Also If i am sitting up (as much as I can) it requires much more force than if I get down lower on the bike and lean in more.

Is this normal due to the sportbike layout(more weight up front)?
ninja was much lighter. smaller crank, less centrifugal force, not as fast, easier, and more forgiving.

The 750 is less forgiving. Then who knows what the suspension is like, a lot of these guys like to lower these bikes and then they steer like a school bus. Is the suspension all in factory setting, is there any fork showing through the top triple? is the rear link stock.

The after u sort that, then u gonna pick up on worn or shot suspension, and like a car will affect handling and grip.
So u should have to rice it much different, yes a lil more effort will be required, but it shouldnt be like uggghhhh, straining to turn the mofo at the same pace u were just like laddeeedaa on the 500.

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Hopefully the bike is fixable. The skin will grow back. Guy drove off. Time to send more money, and more time.
damn! well, bright side, early lesson learned,= buy some damn gear and USE IT!
Glad u didnt get them plastics yet huh.
ALSO. old brittle hard tires, on old suspension is a recipe for lockinh up the front. stick a thumb fingernail in the tire as hard as u can, then watch the mark ur nail leaves. If its not vanished in a few seconds, say 8 or so max. u might wanna invest in some new rubber that still acts like rubber, rather than plastic.

OK, im done, my trackday was awesome, sorry u guys wrecked, ttyl.
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Old 10-18-2011, 12:52 AM   #5628
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Is that not you in the previous page riding in sneakers and shorts with no shirt?

I always have minimum: helmet, jacket, gloves.
LOL, NO! Just a pic I ran into that I thought everyone would find amusing.
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Old 10-18-2011, 09:00 AM   #5629
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I noticed that the force required to turn is way different from the ninja. On that bike any turn can be managed by applying a little pressure to that side handle bar.
Damn glad you're ok. People need to stop crashing!!!

Wear gloves mmmmmmkay?
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Old 10-18-2011, 09:18 AM   #5630
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ya. i am not sure when/if i will be getting back on a bike, but if i do you can believe i will be wearing gear.
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Old 10-18-2011, 09:22 AM   #5631
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What do you guys figure I could sell a 2011 Kawasaki 650r with 19 miles for? There is a guy who wants to trade me his bike + $$$ for my car. It looks like MSRP is $7999. Is it reasonable to expect $6500 from the bike, or a bit more? Any help would be great.
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it shouldnt be like uggghhhh, straining to turn the mofo at the same pace u were just like laddeeedaa on the 500.ttyl.
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Old 10-18-2011, 09:57 AM   #5633
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What do you guys figure I could sell a 2011 Kawasaki 650r with 19 miles for? There is a guy who wants to trade me his bike + $$$ for my car. It looks like MSRP is $7999. Is it reasonable to expect $6500 from the bike, or a bit more? Any help would be great.
not sure, depends on your area...have you checked on craigslist?

I would also find come Kawasaki forums and peruse their classified sections, you could also just ask there
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Glad you're ok mvrk, and I'm sure you've learned the importance of gear...hopefully any new riders lurking in this thread see this as well
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ya. i am not sure when/if i will be getting back on a bike, but if i do you can believe i will be wearing gear.
Already spooked huh?
tell u what, fix it, heal up, and get some gear, go do a proper riding school if you havent already. If you have, go do a higher level, or do a race school, and become enlightened on how to really manage these machines.
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Old 10-18-2011, 12:15 PM   #5636
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Already spooked huh?
tell u what, fix it, heal up, and get some gear, go do a proper riding school if you havent already. If you have, go do a higher level, or do a race school, and become enlightened on how to really manage these machines.
its not the rash. or the gear.

its the fact that ha, say a suburban been in the lane next to me - i would bedead. a leather jacket and gloves are not good if you get run over. its just a little unnerving.

I know myself. I doubt i could stay away from bikes for long.
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its not the rash. or the gear.

its the fact that ha, say a suburban been in the lane next to me - i would bedead. a leather jacket and gloves are not good if you get run over. its just a little unnerving.

I know myself. I doubt i could stay away from bikes for long.
nothing has really changed from when you were riding the 500. Leather does help in all types of accidents. May not save you from the freak death, but could mean the difference between bruised hip and broken pelvis.
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nothing has really changed from when you were riding the 500. Leather does help in all types of accidents. May not save you from the freak death, but could mean the difference between bruised hip and broken pelvis.
well i doubt the 500 would havelocked up as quickly. byt your right.
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its not the rash. or the gear.

its the fact that ha, say a suburban been in the lane next to me - i would bedead. a leather jacket and gloves are not good if you get run over. its just a little unnerving.

I know myself. I doubt i could stay away from bikes for long.
Now you see why im a track addict and i try to get everyone to hit th track pipe.
Truth is tho, even tho now i dont have a street bike, i plan on getting one soon and still miss it to this day. You just have to keep your head on that swivel man, be prepared for all these knuckleheads. If you dont, thats your ass on the ground.
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nothing has really changed from when you were riding the 500. Leather does help in all types of accidents. May not save you from the freak death, but could mean the difference between bruised hip and broken pelvis.
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Nothings changed bro, if anything, youre more visible, bigger, louder bike.
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well i doubt the 500 would havelocked up as quickly. byt your right.
the 500 doesnt have as powerful brakes as the 750, so that goes back to you.
plus, the 500 tires i would bet, were probably newer and in better condition.
See my post about brittle tires up top.

Again comes back to a more forgiving bike. Its like you went from a E36 318 to a E46 M3. yeah, it does EVERYTHING better, quicker stronger faster, because it has to, it was made that way. And you cant drive both of them the exact same way, because the M3 will bite you in the ass, if youre not careful.

Keep your head up man, chalk it up as a lesson learned, every dynamc of the 500 you thought you knew, multiply it by 50 on the 750 and you will be fine. less fogiving bike will require more delicacy, and precision with the inputs.

One was designed to commute, and for beginners, one was designed for going to the racetrack and just so happend you can commute on it.
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