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Old 04-20-2008, 05:57 PM   #321
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Navin - Whats up bro!! I met you at HIN and you were really informative and you know I will be hitting you up for more advice. Congrats, I didn't know that you had just installed the S/C. Congrats!
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Old 04-21-2008, 12:11 PM   #322
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Talha/Fran... I have the Gruppe M intake in my car right now and I don't plan on changing it out. My mechanic shares the same opinion as I do and we feel that we won't have any problems. The only thing is that it's a TIGHT fit for the Gruppe M intake and you can't reuse the blue silicon ring that came with the Gruppe M, which isn't a big deal because my mechanic will get me a silicon ring that will fit it, even if it means trimming it to fit precisely.

It's certainly your car whether you decide not to use this with the Gruppe M, but I plan on using mine.
Some more info from Asbjorn. This is his entire reply on what intake he does suggest to use with the TS.....

I would strongly recommend using the BMW oem intake or bmw performance intake. On the oem one you can simply drill a 1.5" diameter hole behind the headlight and eliminate all pressure drop in this assembly.

So it sounds like there is more to it than an issue with "oil" on the Gruppem type intakes.

I do not fully understand where "exactly" he suggests drilling this hole......I need a drawing before I start drilling!


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Old 04-21-2008, 12:53 PM   #323
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Looks great navin congrats!

What does your VDO oil psi read when you first start the car (and its cold), and then what does it read after a drive whn your oil temp is over 220 (at idle)? i am trying to diagnose an issue i am having with my oil psi gauge and i have the exact setup you have for your 323, the leatherz vdo package.. tia
I'll be happy to find this info out for you, Sammy (will try and do this later on today when I leave work).

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Looks great but I wouldn't use the gruppe m intake the filter has a smaller surface area than the stock filter so it is putting more strain on your supercharger.
Thanks! Hmmm, I haven't felt any strain on the supercharger thus far with my intake. I also don't constantly apply the boost (or pushing my car to the max), so I'll be fine.... thanks for your advice though.

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Navin - Whats up bro!! I met you at HIN and you were really informative and you know I will be hitting you up for more advice. Congrats, I didn't know that you had just installed the S/C. Congrats!
What's up bro! Sorry I don't remember who you are exactly (help me out to remember who you were again and what I said to you - I met so many people that night... what an AMAZING time I had there).

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Some more info from Asbjorn. This is his entire reply on what intake he does suggest to use with the TS.....

I would strongly recommend using the BMW oem intake or bmw performance intake. On the oem one you can simply drill a 1.5" diameter hole behind the headlight and eliminate all pressure drop in this assembly.

So it sounds like there is more to it than an issue with "oil" on the Gruppem type intakes.

I do not fully understand where "exactly" he suggests drilling this hole......I need a drawing before I start drilling!

Fran
Fran, as I mentioned to you before, I already spoke with ESS (I spoke to Hans actually... wasn't able to speak to Asbjorn) and he assured me that I won't cause any damage to the S/C by me using the GruppeM intake. I understand already that they don't recommend the GruppeM or any other intakes with oil-based filters... I was told this was the case because of the risk of damage to the MAF sensor from over-oiling the filter.
By all means, please use whichever intake you prefer... I'm certainly not telling you what to use or not to use, but I've made my decision to use the GruppeM after consulting both ESS and my mechanic (who regularly performs the maintenance on my GruppeM's K&N air filter - so far I've had no issues with oil impacting my MAF sensor) and I intend to stick with my decision.
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Old 04-21-2008, 01:22 PM   #324
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Fran, as I mentioned to you before, I already spoke with ESS (I spoke to Hans actually... wasn't able to speak to Asbjorn) and he assured me that I won't cause any damage to the S/C by me using the GruppeM intake. I understand already that they don't recommend the GruppeM or any other intakes with oil-based filters... I was told this was the case because of the risk of damage to the MAF sensor from over-oiling the filter.
By all means, please use whichever intake you prefer... I'm certainly not telling you what to use or not to use, but I've made my decision to use the GruppeM after consulting both ESS and my mechanic (who regularly performs the maintenance on my GruppeM's K&N air filter - so far I've had no issues with oil impacting my MAF sensor) and I intend to stick with my decision.
I understand why you chose yours, nor am I intimating that your choice is wrong, to each their own........

This info for others who may be reading this thread that don't have a GruppeM and are trying to decide what to do with their ESS setup.

Drilling a 1.5 inch hole for a little performance boost is useful info.

If anyone chooses to drill their stock box, drill the hole in the lower section of it below the air filter, close to the headlight assembly.
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Old 04-21-2008, 01:36 PM   #325
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I understand why you chose yours, nor am I intimating that your choice is wrong, to each their own........

This info for others who may be reading this thread that don't have a GruppeM and are trying to decide what to do with their ESS setup.

Drilling a 1.5 inch hole for a little performance boost is useful info.

If anyone chooses to drill their stock box, drill the hole in the lower section of it below the air filter, close to the headlight assembly.

Thanks Fran! I mistook what you wrote and wasn't sure if you were hinting at my choice being wrong... my bad for mistaking you.

I actually was looking at possibly getting the BMW Performance intake but found it's not compatible with the 323's... only the 325's and up I believe. I also recently sold my OEM airbox, otherwise I might have initially considered swapping back to it.
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Old 04-21-2008, 01:42 PM   #326
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^^^^NP Navin

I am just about done with my install, I am at the point of installing the intake. I'll be stopping by home depot shortly!
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Old 04-21-2008, 03:08 PM   #327
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I was the tall indian guy....I told u that I had just bought a ZHP. I think I asked you about the supercharger and what kind of lip you had.
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Old 04-21-2008, 03:24 PM   #328
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You wont be able to feel the strain. It just means the blower has to work a little harder. But it will be fine if you like the way it looks keep it. How are you likeing your twinscrew so far, I wish i would of gotten one.
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Old 04-21-2008, 04:40 PM   #329
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I have the hole drilled as it is required for the TS3 kit. The Performance BMW intake costs a pretty penny, so AJ said it wasn't worth it and just instructed us to have the airbox drilled.

BTW, what email address are you emailing AJ at? I have sent him a couple of emails, but have yet to hear back from him.

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^^^^NP Navin

I am just about done with my install, I am at the point of installing the intake. I'll be stopping by home depot shortly!
Congrats Fran!!!

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I was the tall indian guy....I told u that I had just bought a ZHP. I think I asked you about the supercharger and what kind of lip you had.
Now I remember...

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You wont be able to feel the strain. It just means the blower has to work a little harder. But it will be fine if you like the way it looks keep it. How are you likeing your twinscrew so far, I wish i would of gotten one.
That makes sense.

So far I'm loving the twinscrew... I hope to post a good review within the coming weeks after I get my car dyno'ed.
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I have the hole drilled as it is required for the TS3 kit. The Performance BMW intake costs a pretty penny, so AJ said it wasn't worth it and just instructed us to have the airbox drilled.

BTW, what email address are you emailing AJ at? I have sent him a couple of emails, but have yet to hear back from him.

Hi Brian, I have been on the road for a few days with sporadic internet connection. I answered you email about the anodized PS tank today.
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Hi Brian, I have been on the road for a few days with sporadic internet connection. I answered you email about the anodized PS tank today.
Awesome. I got your email. I will be patiently awaiting the parts. Crossing my fingers it gets here before Bimmerfest.
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I have the hole drilled as it is required for the TS3 kit.
Is this drilled hole also a requirement for TS1? I couldn't tell from the pic, but where exactly is this hole getting drilled?
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Is this drilled hole also a requirement for TS1? I couldn't tell from the pic, but where exactly is this hole getting drilled?
That hole is drilled into the stock airbox, directly behind the headlight....
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Is this drilled hole also a requirement for TS1? I couldn't tell from the pic, but where exactly is this hole getting drilled?
navin - it has nothing to do with your setup since you have the CAI
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navin - it has nothing to do with your setup since you have the CAI
I know, but I was asking in the event I decide in the future to put the OEM airbox back in.

If I were to put the OEM airbox back in, is it mandatory to drill this hold even for TS1 setups or is this something ONLY for TS3 setups?
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I wouldnt worry about it for TS1 - but it cant hurt. You would just need to make certain to be careful with water getting in there.
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I wouldnt worry about it for TS1 - but it cant hurt. You would just need to make certain to be careful with water getting in there.
Stuart did you put the hole in yours?
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i didnt know about this hole idea until now - but I will add the hole if it is recommended
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