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The E46 vert forum. Talk about dropping your E46 top here.

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Old 03-27-2008, 02:33 AM   #1
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Can't fold down convertible top - yellow light - trunk/compartment closed.

the top won't fold down today
i pressed the top down button weird yellow light on not red as normal.
i couldn't hear any noise come from the mechanism nor the module/flasher.

both trunk and convertible compartment inside the trunk were closed completely (i slammed the trunk hard make sure its closed and pull the compartment down w/ same force)

what could be the problem?

i doubt it would be the gas shock/absorber of the convertible compartment.
it seems not working right. When i pull the compartment down, the gas shock not lock the compartment as it supposed to be.

please help

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Old 03-27-2008, 02:40 AM   #2
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This happens to me once a month or so. Completely randomly precisely like you mentioned.

I've typically fixed it in these two ways
1) Open and close your trunk again, making sure that the convertible compartment is down to allow for storage). Press the "open" button until mechanism starts moving. Press "close" right after that.

2) Sometimes, even that won't fix it. I have to turn off the car, take out the key, wait a few seconds, and do step #1.

I've had this happen about 5-6 times and what I mentioned above as always worked. Completely a strange and random problem...never looked to find out why this happens.

One tip though: I've highly recommend closing and opening the top with the engine ON. I kid you not, one time "closing and opening the top" (parked, 10 minutes apart) drained my battery to the point where i had to jump start the car. Maybe it's time to change my battery...
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Old 03-27-2008, 02:45 AM   #3
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wow
could you check your compartment see if you pull it down (for storage). will you be able to just push the "box" and it moves? or it will be locked unless you use the bar?

cuz mine does, i pulled the compartment down, and even with one finger, i can still push it up again, no use the bar. isnt it the bar is the only key to open/close the compartment?

my guess is that the compartment is not locked so the sensor won't let me put top down.
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Old 03-27-2008, 02:51 AM   #4
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Um...

So you have your trunk open and the black convertible storage box should be DOWN (reducing your trunk space) and the lever should be tucked "IN" (this prevents the storage box from collapsing.

This is a small pic, but it should look like this:



(Notice the storage compartment is OPEN and LOCKED. This allows the top to fold down and into this compartment.)

I think you already know this, but in order to pull down or "expand/open" the compartment, you have to grab the lever, pull it down, and then UP. This movement should expand your storage compartment and now you can "tuck in" the lever to lock it.

If you don't lock it or fail to expand this compartment a sensor will notify the car via a YELLOW (or Orange, can't recall) light that something is not right.

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Old 03-27-2008, 02:53 AM   #5
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picture of the compartment and handle bar i'm talking about.
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Old 03-27-2008, 02:55 AM   #6
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Um...

So you have your trunk open and the black convertible storage box should be DOWN (reducing your trunk space) and the lever should be tucked "IN" (this prevents the storage box from collapsing.

This is a small pic, but it should look like this:



(Notice the storage compartment is OPEN and LOCKED. This allows the top to fold down and into this compartment.)
exactly what i did!
but when your box down and handle tuck in. if you accidently push the box, will it move?
cuz if i did, it still can move and will be "open" not in "close" mode that we need (in order to open the top)
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Old 03-27-2008, 02:59 AM   #7
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The picture you uploaded above is exactly the position needed in order to allow the top to store itself.

The box shouldn't move at all once you're in this position. It's locked.

If it's moving it's one of three things:

1) You need to pull out the lever and make sure the box is FULLY expanded. Maybe you didn't expand it fully so if you push on the box it will collapse "or close".
2) Something is broken with your lever mechanism.
3) Broken sensor (???)

edit: Actually from the picture you showed above, the position is correct to allow to top to OPEN. Contrary to what you wrote on the right side of the picture, if you "pull out the lever and push the box in" (collapsing it) you will not be able to open the top. I think I've explained in way too much detail this compartment

Are you sure that the "boom box" or carpeted box below the storage compartment isn't interfering with the compartment?

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Old 03-27-2008, 03:09 AM   #8
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i totally understand what you are saying.
and i kinda figure out what's wrong with my compartment.
i hope it's the gas shock (the cheapest part) or else i'm screwed.

the sub box already removed couple weeks and it does have space in between them to allow the compartment fold down w/ no problem.

i might pull the level bar so hard and broke something behind it. or it could be the gas shock, or sensor ??????????
gotta spend a trip to a local specialist to let them check.

appreciate your help alot my friend!
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Old 03-27-2008, 09:44 AM   #9
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No problem! Let me know what you figure out...
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Old 03-27-2008, 10:13 AM   #10
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it happens all the time bro..
here is my link.. http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthr...onvertible+top
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Old 03-27-2008, 09:16 PM   #11
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^ as mentioned on post #19, you can actually try "closing" or "opening" the top from the driver' side key lock.

To open:
1) Insert the key into the driver's door lock
2) Turn the key FULLY 3 times to the LEFT at rapid succession
(1st time it unlocks the driver's door, 2nd the passenger door, and 3rd it opens the top)
3) Once you're on the 3rd turn to the left, HOLD the key to the LEFT (that is "parallel to the ground" if it helps you picture it).
4) After 2-3 seconds, the windows should come down halfway and the top should open.

To close: same thing, but push the key to the RIGHT.
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Old 03-27-2008, 10:42 PM   #12
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yeah
it won't work
same freaking yellow lights on
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Old 03-28-2008, 06:10 PM   #13
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so depressing
have an appointment w/ local bmw specialist on Monday.
time pass by so slow!!
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Old 03-30-2008, 12:27 PM   #14
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Guys
I FIXED IT

its the compartment absorber/gas shock that worn out and not doing its job properly!!!

my top working fine now, put up/down no problem!!!
what i did was climbing inside a trunk (well, i'm 6"1 and 180lbs but i managed )
and i noticed the compartment box when put down (less storage) the level was un-even.
it has a gap on both left and right side between the top tray and bottom box.
(will take some detail pics showing you guys later).

So i figured out that all i need to do was pulling the gas shock to the max length with one hand, and the other hand pull the top tray down to fill the gap on the other side. (got a kid laying in trunk to do so).
close the trunk and top working perfectly!

ordered the gas shock today, unfortunately it will be here in the U.S in next 2-3 weeks from Germany. They're out of stock the entire nation. wow

shock/gas $23.68
trim/clamp $1.08
ordered from Tischer bmw

hope it helps

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Old 03-30-2008, 06:26 PM   #15
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I'm glad that it was only a simply problem.

I might replace mine out of maintenance then...

Are these the right parts? #4 (shock absorber) and #19 (clamp)
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Old 03-31-2008, 12:45 AM   #16
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correct!

bmw part #

GAS PRESSURIZED SPRING 54318232767
CLAMP 54317007409
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Old 03-31-2008, 10:43 AM   #17
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Awesome. Thanks on behalf of all of us (and those who will stumble upon this thread in the next couple of months).
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Old 03-31-2008, 11:30 AM   #18
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you're super welcome my friend!
it's what this forum for, help out fellow fanatics!
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Old 03-31-2008, 04:39 PM   #19
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Wow glad to hear you fix the problem....saved yourself a trip to the dealer. Post some detail pic if you can.
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Old 05-05-2008, 08:11 PM   #20
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Hi guys,

I was reading and looking everywhere for my problem with my power top but it's still working...

This is what happens to me.

I have always the top light (between the 2 switches for the top) blicking red!!! I tried the trick with the key in the door. the windows went down but the top is not moving. of course, the trunk compartment is totally closed. I don't know what is wrong. my top stopped working one day half closed and i had to close manually (in case of rain) and now, it doesn't want to open...

does it happen to somebody else, this red blicking light ? what can it be ?

Thanks in advance
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