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Old 04-28-2008, 02:07 AM   #1
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Keyhole Rear Camera: Possible Problem

I would like to install a rear keyhole camera and would like to do it as cleanly as possible, so I would like to do the keyhole camera install.

However, I have a Sedan, with no throughloading or folding rear seats, and I don't have a trunk release button in my drivers footwell.

If I was to be working on the car, and I disconnect the battery, how would I get into the trunk if I closed it?

I couldn't use the keyhole because it would be gone - replaced by a camera! I couldn't use the trunk release button on the trunk, as there would be no power to activate it. I couldn't use the keyfob remote, as, again, no power! And I don't have the trunk release button, but even if I did, no power! And I couldn't get into the trunk from the back, as I don't have folding seats.

Am I missing another trunk release option? If not, then it means, does it not, that I would be completely locked out of my trunk!!!
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Old 04-28-2008, 02:12 AM   #2
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the battery is in the trunk so it would be open if you had it disconnected. im not sure why you would close the trunk with the battery disconnected. i guess youd have to make a mental note of it
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Old 04-28-2008, 02:45 AM   #3
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It happened to me the other day - I was working on the car in my drive, and it started to rain. I shut the trunk while the battery was disconnected, and panicked a bit when I realised the trunk release wouldn't work without power. Then I remembered I could use the key. Phew!

But if I had had a keyhole camera in, then I would have been screwed.

I don't trust myself enough to think about it!

Am I missing something, or has everyone else with a keyhole camera done it with folding rear seats just in case!
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Old 04-28-2008, 02:56 AM   #4
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Id think of a different place for my camera, maybe somewhere around the license plate. Losing manual function for me is a non negotiable.

BTW I have always had a phobia of locking my keys in my car even though I havn't in years! So I understand your delima.
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Old 04-28-2008, 03:07 AM   #5
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Yes maybe. I am not sure what equipment I have around the license plate area. I am in the UK so we have different license plate holders to you guys in the states. I'll look into it soon.

I only have one key. I can get a new one from the dealer for just under 100, which I think I will do soon. I don't have the Valet key either.

Actually, I do have a second key, but the battery is dead and won't be charged by using it in the ignition. I will look into getting a new battery for it somehow. I know the batteries aren't supposed to be user replacable (it's a diamond one).
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Old 04-28-2008, 03:22 AM   #6
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You could learn how the key connects mechanically to the latch and run a bowden cable to that part of the mechanism. Then run the cable into the passenger compartment and hide it.
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Old 04-28-2008, 03:26 AM   #7
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you would have to go through your rear speakers, then get a stick and attempt to put the connector for the battery back on, or pull the emergency release handle.
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Old 04-28-2008, 03:55 AM   #8
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break through the center where the ski pass is
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Old 04-28-2008, 04:11 AM   #9
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Could I get some sort of extension lead for the emergency release handle? I haven't noticed where that is. I think it is compulsory in America, but not necessarily in Europe (I guess we have less kidnappings...)

Or maybe I am just getting that from watching far too much CSI (in fact I watched a NY episode recently that directly involved an emergency release handle.

As for the ski pass idea, I would still have to use a big stick, though it would be easier than using a big stick through the rear speaker hole!

Thanks for the input guys - great ideas!

But i'm still not convinced...
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Could I get some sort of extension lead for the emergency release handle? I haven't noticed where that is. I think it is compulsory in America, but not necessarily in Europe (I guess we have less kidnappings...)

Or maybe I am just getting that from watching far too much CSI (in fact I watched a NY episode recently that directly involved an emergency release handle.

As for the ski pass idea, I would still have to use a big stick, though it would be easier than using a big stick through the rear speaker hole!

Thanks for the input guys - great ideas!

But i'm still not convinced...
the release handle for us is right above the bmw tool kit. you should see it, it's a glow in the dark handle.

CSI NY sucks, it's all about the original one lol.
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Old 04-28-2008, 05:37 AM   #11
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Ah but with the main characters dropping like flies in the original one, we may well be stuck with just Miami and NY to get us by!

But that's a little off topic. Can anyone post me a pic of the handle? I don't remember seeing it before, and won't be back with my car for another couple of weeks.
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lol i know, but it's still better than the other two even though it's down a few

anyways, here's a picture from a clears install

http://www.e46fanatics.com/howto/pic...g&directory=43

the green triangular thing in the middle is the handle
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Old 04-28-2008, 05:55 AM   #13
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You could maybe use a jumper cable to operate the trunk release button? There is a positive terminal in the engine bay and put the ground on any exposed metal part there.
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Old 04-28-2008, 06:10 AM   #14
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Ah yes now that's a good idea! I would only be doing the work with the battery disconnected at home, where I would have access to another car to jump from. Clever. Maybe I will experiment and see if that does make it work. No reason why it shouldn't though.

That makes me a lot more confident about doing the keyhole camera now. Thanks!

I'll let you know what I decide...
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And as for the little green triangle, I don't recognise it at all. Maybe I don't have it!

Mental note: Don't get trapped inside my trunk with noone around...
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Great! Let us know the results.
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And as for the little green triangle, I don't recognise it at all. Maybe I don't have it!

Mental note: Don't get trapped inside my trunk with noone around...
I think that the green glow in the dark thing was just made mandatory recently so you will be able to see it if ever you get locked in the trunk.
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Old 04-28-2008, 08:48 AM   #18
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i would place it right underneath the trunk lip handle (where the lights are that shine so you can see your license plate) and put it off to the left or right. I'm not sure exactly how you would do it but im sure you can run the cable through there. I have seen it on a couple of cars and it looks good without losing functionality of the keyhole
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