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Old 06-03-2008, 11:37 AM   #1
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Whats a good beater track car to learn with?

Hey guys iam looking for a good old car that i can use on the track and learn from it, instead of using my E46. Iam guessing a Japanese car like a 240sx, or 300z.

Here are some info you guys might need to help me out.


1) Under $4000, i dont care if the car is working or not. As long as the chassis is in good condition, it will do.

2)Japanese, german, american, whatever car is a good learning car, and relatively cheap. My best guess is a Japanese.

3)Track use only. No street racing, or drifting, just a car to learn to race on the track.

4) Enough power to start out with, it has to have some punch.

5) As long as the parts and maintence is cheaper then a E46 iam good lol.

6) Iam turning 19 soon, so i dont have all that much money, but i have to start out somewhere right.

7) Iam using this car to learn track basics, like cornering, braking, speed, to have some sort of knowledge before i jump into a more serious and expensive car like my E46, and so on.

8) My parents own a mechanic shop so all the work will be done by me or my mechanic. Of course iam saving tons on labor



I need suggestions, and ideas for types of cars. I have only 3 in mind that i think will suit my needs, but i know there are more out there.


Thanks guys for all the help. I appreciate it
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Old 06-03-2008, 11:39 AM   #3
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mazda miata.
O yea, that is a good car to learn with. LoL thanks man.
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Old 06-03-2008, 11:42 AM   #5
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O yea, that is a good car to learn with. LoL thanks man.
laugh all you want but miata's are excellent track cars.
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Old 06-03-2008, 11:43 AM   #6
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e30 325is, weird, if your willing to spend 4k then youll get a really good and clean one, i know a guy that trakcs his and he has 250k miles on the clock,
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laugh all you want but miata's are excellent track cars.
I know, i wasnt being sarcastic, iam serious. I know they are good track cars, i see them racing on SPEED TV all the time. I just didnt think about it.
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Old 06-03-2008, 11:48 AM   #8
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I would have to agree with the E30 and Miata offerings as stated above. The downside of the Miata is that you have to at least get a hard top, but some places require a cage. Either way you go, you'll have a great track car.

Mazda is a phenomenal brand and they're all about racing. They really embrace their "Zoom-Zoom" mantra. Other cars you could consider would be an older RX-7 or MX-6 (not as ideal, but still great since it's a Mazda). The Miata is just a track fiend. It's not very fast or powerful, but you can stick turns at speed without slowing down and they'll hold. I've been to the track and had a spec Miata trounce me.
BMW, well, is BMW.
And Nissans are also great. I've been impressed with Nissans. I'm not a fan of most Japanese cars, but my brother had an '84 300ZX Turbo and that thing was just fantastic on the street and in the turns. Both the 240 and 300Z are great cars.
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I know, i wasnt being sarcastic, iam serious. I know they are good track cars, i see them racing on SPEED TV all the time. I just didnt think about it.
I knew this guy who had a 96 miata, installed a Jackson Racing supercharger and was spankin everyone on the track. Porsches, Mustangs, BMW's, etc.... It was the freakiest thing i've seen. This guy could just go into corners deeper and maintain speed going thru while everyone else was floundering in the turns.
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Old 06-03-2008, 12:00 PM   #13
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+1 on the miata and the rx7. both can be had for dirt cheap and make excellent track cars.
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Old 06-03-2008, 12:07 PM   #14
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240 is fun car too.

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Id say you could find a miata and do the work to make it reliable for a total of 6 grand.. prob supercharge or turbo for another 2 grand..

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Old 06-03-2008, 12:11 PM   #16
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I know miata has great track history. But i love the look of the 240sx, they are great beginner cars, maybe not as good as the miata, but the 240sx is still a great car. I gotta find out more info between the two of them. Things like how much parts are. Iam planning on gutting the interior, putting some coilovers, maybe a turbo, things like that.
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240s are fun
lots of trouble but they're fun when they work!
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i would say miata or e30 with the nod toward e30. BMW CCA schools are among the best, and the e30-spec series is still grassroots if you take it that far.
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Miata. /thread

The aftermarket, and racing support for the Miata is unmatched as far as any of these cars go. As mentioned, there are sooooo many different types of Miata racing. You will not be disappointed.
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