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View Poll Results: What do you think of M3/ZHP fogs?
Projector fog assemblies are better 27 31.03%
Halogen fog assemblies are better 24 27.59%
Projector fogs are better, but not worth the cost 10 11.49%
Have an M3/ZHP bumper, but don't care 15 17.24%
Don't have an M3/ZHP bumper, and don't care 11 12.64%
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Old 07-17-2008, 04:46 PM   #1
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Projector/Halogen Fog Light Poll

I'm just curious as to what people think of the projector fog assemblies versus the halogen fog assemblies for the M3/ZHP bumpers. Please vote, and if you have any additional comments, please post them.


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Old 07-17-2008, 05:22 PM   #2
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I really don't think it matters as far as if your worrying about your hid fogs blinding people. They won't. But if you just need to spend some money, get projectors for a more professional look i guess.
(I didn't see this response on the poll)
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Old 07-17-2008, 05:25 PM   #3
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My setup, waiting for my HID kit to mount it.
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Old 07-17-2008, 05:27 PM   #4
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projectors won't blind people, but they suck. go with halogens and just point them down more
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Old 07-17-2008, 05:31 PM   #5
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projectors won't blind people, but they suck. go with halogens and just point them down more
How do they suck?
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Old 07-17-2008, 05:34 PM   #6
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I really don't think it matters as far as if your worrying about your hid fogs blinding people. They won't. But if you just need to spend some money, get projectors for a more professional look i guess.
(I didn't see this response on the poll)
HID fogs not in projectors will blind oncoming drivers. there is no cut-off pattern.
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Old 07-17-2008, 05:36 PM   #7
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any supplier you can point me at for projector fogs?
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How do they suck?
they aren't made for HID applications. you lose some light output with them. just those specific ones suck. but they do provide a cutoff.
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Old 07-17-2008, 05:43 PM   #9
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projector fogs by themselves i don't think look as clean or flush. they are generic "eyes" surrounded by differing plastic housings for different cars. the glass "eye" does not sit flush or aerodynamic. that is why i installed the projector inside an M3 style foglight. if you have a HID system, projectors are so much better for a driving light.
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ya they deffinetly suck, i had them sold them and got OEM fogs with HIDS, trust me they suck, the output is bad, use OEM fogs or aftermarket ohh, and if you want the projectors the ebay ones are the same exact things, i got mine from bavauot and spend 100 when ebay has the same things for 50. Dont get projectors.
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projector fogs by themselves i don't think look as clean or flush. they are generic "eyes" surrounded by differing plastic housings for different cars. the glass "eye" does not sit flush or aerodynamic. that is why i installed the projector inside an M3 style foglight. if you have a HID system, projectors are so much better for a driving light.
Do you have pics of that setup?


Btw, just for the record, I have halogen bulbs in the projector assemblies, the light output is fine (I do a lot of backroads driving), I'm talking mostly about looks.
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yea i did the same, i retro'ed them into my foglight housing. but even then, they don't do the job as well. fogs are supposed to be pointing to the sides and a little towards the middle (sort of making a W shape where the 2 V's are the light pointing to the sides). but the projector fogs takes all that away and and disperses the light evenly across. it loses intensity where it's most needed, the sides. hence why they are useless. on trucks or something like that, i would understand the use of projector fogs. or even if you retrofit better projector fogs where the light is more intense than that will be better

now if it's just purely for aethetics, i'd just go with the projector fogs to keep from blinding people.
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yea i did the same, i retro'ed them into my foglight housing. but even then, they don't do the job as well. fogs are supposed to be pointing to the sides and a little towards the middle (sort of making a W shape where the 2 V's are the light pointing to the sides). but the projector fogs takes all that away and and disperses the light evenly across. it loses intensity where it's most needed, the sides. hence why they are useless. on trucks or something like that, i would understand the use of projector fogs. or even if you retrofit better projector fogs where the light is more intense than that will be better

now if it's just purely for aethetics, i'd just go with the projector fogs to keep from blinding people.
I haven't really noticed that as much. I have the ones from Bavauto, and the side output isn't that bad. Many raccoons and a deer would have lost their life if it wasn't for the fogs.
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I hear a lot of speak about the HID fogs. Is there an actual setup, or are you guys just buying the HID bulbs and plugging them in?

Aren't there concerns of the bulbs melting the housing / wiring not being adequate?
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I hear a lot of speak about the HID fogs. Is there an actual setup, or are you guys just buying the HID bulbs and plugging them in?

Aren't there concerns of the bulbs melting the housing / wiring not being adequate?
-HID bulbs emit less heat
-no wiring from the projectors is used, you just hook it up to the car and voila.
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I haven't really noticed that as much. I have the ones from Bavauto, and the side output isn't that bad. Many raccoons and a deer would have lost their life if it wasn't for the fogs.
yea it's not that bad when the weather is clear, but in the fogs (which is why they are called foglights), they don't work like they are supposed to
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-HID bulbs emit less heat @ 35w
-no wiring from the projectors is used, you just hook it up to the car and voila.
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yea it's not that bad when the weather is clear, but in the fogs (which is why they are called foglights), they don't work like they are supposed to
really? i've used them both with and without fog, and they were fine.
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i think it might just be different for you lol. because you went from halogen fogs straight to HID projector fogs. so you can't compare the difference. it's like people who go from halogens to 8000K HIDs. they look brighter but in reality you're getting less light than your halogens.

if you were to compare HID fogs in regular halogen housing vs. HID fogs in projector housings, you will notice the difference instantly.
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