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Old 07-30-2008, 09:38 AM   #1
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Will 19"x9" and 19x9.5" CSL Staggered Fit e46 323i?

I'm thinking of buying a used set of staggered CSL reps that are 19x9 and 19x9.5 from somebody who drove it on a 2004 325i sedan. Will they fit my 2000 323i sedan? Any rubbing issues? I have the H&R Touring cupkit installed.

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Old 07-30-2008, 09:52 AM   #2
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it wont fit the rear.

the sedan is not as wide as the coupe in the back so 9.5 rears wont fit.

its just too wide for the fenders.

the max is 8.5...9.0 if ou rollit like a mother.

i know this cause i was the 1st to put oem 19s m3 rims on a non m3
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Old 07-30-2008, 10:39 AM   #3
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it wont fit the rear.

the sedan is not as wide as the coupe in the back so 9.5 rears wont fit.

its just too wide for the fenders.

the max is 8.5...9.0 if ou rollit like a mother.

i know this cause i was the 1st to put oem 19s m3 rims on a non m3
WTF are you talking about 9.5's DO fit on a sedan if you have the proper offset. I have 9.5 CH's on the rear of my 323i . The offset is 40 and I have a 255 tire on it. I'm lowered on the race cupkit and get this...i can probably still put a 10mm spacer on the back. It's like all you people scare off sedan owners from putting anything bigger than an 8.5 wheel on the back. I know it's been said many, many times but it all has to do with OFFSET...OFFSET...OFFSET!!!!!!
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Old 07-30-2008, 10:40 AM   #4
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i am running staggered 19's on my coupe... not sure about the exact offsets but good luck
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it wont fit the rear.

the sedan is not as wide as the coupe in the back so 9.5 rears wont fit.

its just too wide for the fenders.

the max is 8.5...9.0 if ou rollit like a mother.

i know this cause i was the 1st to put oem 19s m3 rims on a non m3
Dude, people are rockin 10s in the rears of sedans, what are you talking about?

OP, we need the offsets to tell you if they are going to fit or not.
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I have to get the offset info from the seller but he has this setup for his 2005 325i sedan.....so I figured if it fits his car, then it should fit my 2000 323i sedan too??

Maybe the better question to ask is....what offset will NOT work for my car?

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Anything under ET40 would probably be marginal with a 255.
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WTF are you talking about 9.5's DO fit on a sedan if you have the proper offset. I have 9.5 CH's on the rear of my 323i . The offset is 40 and I have a 255 tire on it. I'm lowered on the race cupkit and get this...i can probably still put a 10mm spacer on the back. It's like all you people scare off sedan owners from putting anything bigger than an 8.5 wheel on the back. I know it's been said many, many times but it all has to do with OFFSET...OFFSET...OFFSET!!!!!!
wow, that is impressive if it's true. So to clarify, you can run 19 x 9.5 with a 30mm offset(40-10)?? Your tire is a 255/30/19?

I'm on 18x9.5 rim, ET45, 255/35/18 and I had to roll mine to just clear(wagon). For you to say you have 15mm more clearance just amazes me. You're llike 5 mm's away from running M3 wheels!
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Oh.. and +1 on offset. I also think you need something no less than 40. That's from personal experience not something I read.
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Did you mean to type 19x8 in the front instead of 9?
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wow, that is impressive if it's true. So to clarify, you can run 19 x 9.5 with a 30mm offset(40-10)?? Your tire is a 255/30/19?

I'm on 18x9.5 rim, ET45, 255/35/18 and I had to roll mine to just clear(wagon). For you to say you have 15mm more clearance just amazes me. You're llike 5 mm's away from running M3 wheels!
I'm actually on 19x9.5 +30 in the rears with 225/35/19 tires.

Stretched!

Also, on my 18's, I'm running 18x9.5 +32 with 245/35/18 tires without any issues at all.
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I'm wondering about purchasing a similiar set as the OP:

18x9 all around (et 40) on a '01 325i

It sounds like the rears will fit from the posts above, but what about 9" wide in the front?
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I'm actually on 19x9.5 +30 in the rears with 225/35/19 tires.

Stretched!

Also, on my 18's, I'm running 18x9.5 +32 with 245/35/18 tires without any issues at all.
Something is drastically wrong with this picture.. I am running +45 and rub prior to rolling. You're running +32 and no rolling? That's 13mm difference!

Oh wait, sedan or coupe?
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it wont fit the rear.

the sedan is not as wide as the coupe in the back so 9.5 rears wont fit.

its just too wide for the fenders.

the max is 8.5...9.0 if ou rollit like a mother.
What you smoking?
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Something is drastically wrong with this picture.. I am running +45 and rub prior to rolling. You're running +32 and no rolling? That's 13mm difference!

Oh wait, sedan or coupe?
I have the rear fenders shaved.

And yes, it's a sedan.
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Old 07-31-2008, 10:08 AM   #18
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the bomb.. got a problem?


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all these years ive been telling it would fit.. http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthr...hlight=m3+rims and now everyones saying it would fit with offset.


find me a csl rep with the correct offset plz for a sedan
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In that thread you are talking about fitting an M3 wheel, which is a 22 or 25 offset (maybe even 20, I can't remember)...now we're talking about a CSL rep with a 40 or 45 offset. Apples and oranges.

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ZCP rear offset is 27mm. Replicas CSL's for M3 are 22.

Unless you want to "shave" your fender like Teknic, which I assume mean cut the edge of the lip, my setup is pretty close to what you can fit. If you roll your fenders and trim inside of bumper you can fit 18x9.5, ET45 with a 255/35/18. This clearance is for lowered cars.
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