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Old 08-15-2008, 02:43 PM   #41
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I don't think the M5 was underpowered, lol.

There's a few dyno's, one at 489 on 93, another 473, another at 460, the VF car that Jeff ran against hit 450 I believe, these are on pump gas, on a dynojet, the standard, SAE corrected, STD will get you more power.

I made 493 SAE corrected last time on 91 with 10psi, 502WHP STD, but I think the euro cats are too restrictive, so I switched over to SS cats I picked up from Petrias, who was running Vik's old AA kit, the car seems to be a bit faster now based on rematches with the Lambo and P-cars.
So we agree the M5 is fast which proves my point. A post was made that a level 2 car should have trouble (and prob lose) to a stock E60 M5. I provided the video to show that should not be the case. It just so happened to be a race with that M5.

I heard the car in Texas could only make 450 rwhp with race gas - not pump. Maybe i was miss informed.

Once again you car is performing, congratulations.
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Old 08-15-2008, 02:49 PM   #42
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DJS, you're running 4.10 gears, right? That makes a huge difference in acceleration.

Both kits are very nice and have their selling points. Until Jeff gets his car on a dynojet, no one will know if it's performing as it should. Right now it sounds more like Jeff expected more than what the kit delivers.

I'm more than willing to take the kit off your hands Jeff...
I think he is expecting what is advertised. Hopefully he can get to a Dyno Jet and quickly get everything resolved if something is wrong.
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Old 08-15-2008, 03:45 PM   #43
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So do I, as its obviously under performing. Good luck to the OP in that regard.

I am going off of a projected dyno jet figure given by the OP..
I hope he gets it figured out too.

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Thats funny cause i actually know of a few. .
Who?

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I am not doubting your cars performance, as its the only one who seems to be performing.
Every race i have seen of your car you find a way to squeeze out in the end which may be due to a few different reasons. Our cars consistently show a better overall powerband. .
I never said you doubted my car, but I'm sure you think it has something special, lol, it doesn't 11.5 at 122 and 8.67 60-130 is OTS VF Stage 2. I've given you examples of other cars, dyno's, vids, 60-130 times, etc. stop trying to speculate, "squeeze", lol. You got one guy here with problems, and you're trying to run with it.

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Look again at the cars which have participated in the One Lap of America race.

http://onelapofamerica.com/history/2...08&res=OVL_CUM

I am sure the cars you mentioned would have trouble with these cars.

I was not talking about straight line speed on the HWY, you are right we might as well be video cars when next to those cars in straight line acceleration on the HWY. You have to see that racing in those conditions are no where near the level of competition we faced in the One Lap of America race which is a whole different ball game.
You posted a straight line comparo vid, I was talking ONLY about straight line speed and I have no idea what mods or level those cars you listed are at, a balanced Mini cooper might have beaten all the cars you listed, on a track.
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Old 08-15-2008, 03:46 PM   #44
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So we agree the M5 is fast which proves my point. A post was made that a level 2 car should have trouble (and prob lose) to a stock E60 M5. I provided the video to show that should not be the case. It just so happened to be a race with that M5.

I heard the car in Texas could only make 450 rwhp with race gas - not pump. Maybe i was miss informed.

Once again you car is performing, congratulations.
Yes, the M5 is fast!

That was on pump, I don't think he dynoed on race gas.

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Old 08-15-2008, 04:16 PM   #45
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I never said you doubted my car, but I'm sure you think it has something special, lol, it doesn't 11.5 at 122 and 8.67 60-130 is OTS VF Stage 2. I've given you examples of other cars, dyno's, vids, 60-130 times, etc. stop trying to speculate, "squeeze", lol. You got one guy here with problems, and you're trying to run with it.
LOL. No, i think its quick. Nothing to call home about. I will say its the best performing VF car, i will give it that much.

Not speculating, i am going off of what has been posted or what i have seen. I haven't made any assumptions here (other than the M5).

I have seen others but I am in no way riding on this one persons mis fortune, if i was in it to put down your kit i would have more interesting things to talk about. Just trying to get my point across.


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You posted a straight line comparo vid, I was talking ONLY about straight line speed and I have no idea what mods or level those cars you listed are at, a balanced Mini cooper might have beaten all the cars you listed, on a track.
I posted the straight line vid cause it matched the post perfectly. A post was made that a Level 2 car can not compete with an E60 M5 in straight line performance. I felt that was untrue and posted a link to our car racing one. Which fit its cause perfectly. You seem to feel that a level 2 car can not compare to one, sorry you feel that way. Our customers do not have to fear M5's.

I made the comment on the One Lap of America cars since it requires much more than just straight line performance. We tune our cars to perform, not for a peak HP number, which is what allows our customers to compete in different styles of events without fear of reliability or under performing.

Look at the One Lap of America site and see the caliber of cars there and the all out race cars (highly modded engine wise) with no interior that our street car with full interior managed to compete with. I doubt we would have any competition with you there, maybe next year.

Once again we perform. Not one car, not only in straight line. Our kits are reliable, perform all over the world in different events (drag, street and track). It seems you do not want to accept this...

In other words we are not riding the straight line performance of one well performing car to sell kits. We can prove what we have works, there have been cars from Miami, California and as far as Australia; those are just a few of the popular cars that are mostly talked about. People forget the amount of Active Autowerke Supercharged E46 M3's across the world performing as they should everyday. Not just one...

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Old 08-15-2008, 05:37 PM   #46
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LOL. No, i think its quick. Nothing to call home about. I will say its the best performing VF car, i will give it that much.

Not speculating, i am going off of what has been posted or what i have seen. I haven't made any assumptions here (other than the M5).

I have seen others but I am in no way riding on this one persons mis fortune, if i was in it to put down your kit i would have more interesting things to talk about. Just trying to get my point across.




I posted the straight line vid cause it matched the post perfectly. A post was made that a Level 2 car can not compete with an E60 M5 in straight line performance. I felt that was untrue and posted a link to our car racing one. Which fit its cause perfectly. You seem to feel that a level 2 car can not compare to one, sorry you feel that way. Our customers do not have to fear M5's.

I made the comment on the One Lap of America cars since it requires much more than just straight line performance. We tune our cars to perform, not for a peak HP number, which is what allows our customers to compete in different styles of events without fear of reliability or under performing.

Look at the One Lap of America site and see the caliber of cars there and the all out race cars (highly modded engine wise) with no interior that our street car with full interior managed to compete with. I doubt we would have any competition with you there, maybe next year.

Once again we perform. Not one car, not only in straight line. Our kits are reliable, perform all over the world in different events (drag, street and track). It seems you do not want to accept this...

In other words we are not riding the straight line performance of one well performing car to sell kits. We can prove what we have works, there have been cars from Miami, California and as far as Australia; those are just a few of the popular cars that are mostly talked about. People forget the amount of Active Autowerke Supercharged E46 M3's across the world performing as they should everyday. Not just one...

There's some confusion on your interpretaion of what I said/meant, maybe vice versa, we don't agree on some things, fair enough. I think we've rehased and gone off track here and you've added your sales pitch, lol.

This thread is about Jeff's dyno, regardless best of luck with the Gen V kit Jean, get it on a car out here in socal, I want to run it!
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Old 08-15-2008, 06:58 PM   #47
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We have installed two kits at our facilities so far and have already shipped a few world wide. ASA seems to be very popular .

One customer has requested to keep his information private and has requested that we do not post his numbers. We have to follow his wishes.

Here is a chart from the other car:



I seem to have taken this thread of topic. Please pm me with all questions in regards to our kits.
Jean how much boost is this car running ?
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There's some confusion on your interpretaion of what I said/meant, maybe vice versa, we don't agree on some things, fair enough. I think we've rehased and gone off track here and you've added your sales pitch, lol.

This thread is about Jeff's dyno, regardless best of luck with the Gen V kit Jean, get it on a car out here in socal, I want to run it!
I don't think there were any misunderstandings although we can agree we disagree.

You are promoting for VF just as much as i am for Active. You aren't that bad, you should be put on the payroll.

There will, i guess we'll have to make an ASA+ kit to compete with you, LOL.
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Jean how much boost is this car running ?
It is set at 9 PSI.
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I don't think there were any misunderstandings although we can agree we disagree.

You are promoting for VF just as much as i am for Active. You aren't that bad, you should be put on the payroll.

There will, i guess we'll have to make an ASA+ kit to compete with you, LOL.

I'm an enthusiast who's vocal about his car, you're a salesman, who depends on sales for his company to survive, quite a lofty analogy, but some of what you've said is skewed a bit.

I've never made dubious claims that VF is the only true SC'r on the market or that others don't perform, etc. I think you make a fine product and have always maintained that, you were the pioneers, etc. but others kits perform as good or better, and are reliable as yours, that's the reality.

I post my experiences with my kit, and share experieces at times in order to refute statements that are untrue, and if it's deemend promoting, lol, then so be it. I have never received a penny from VF. I do this for the love of it, talk to Johnny, Vik, Mike, Brian, all who run your stuff, they will affirm that as a fact.
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I've never made dubious claims that VF is the only true SC'r on the market or that others don't perform, etc. I think you make a fine product and have always maintained that, you were the pioneers, etc. but others kits perform as good or better, and are reliable as yours, that's the reality.

I post my experiences with my kit, and share experieces at times in order to refute statements that are untrue, and if it's deemend promoting, lol, then so be it. I have never received a penny from VF. I do this for the love of it, talk to Johnny, Vik, Mike, Brian, all who run your stuff, they will affirm that as a fact.
Honestly i am not questioning your love for cars as you told me in California you are "a guy that loves cars, thats all". Its good to see you are happy with what you have.

In my opinion i do not consider a reseller who pieces together a box of parts from someone else and adds a re flash from another company (and tries to gain fame from that companies name) a true tuner.

As you also stated in California i hope you get your little issues worked out as it works fine at WOT.

Hopefully next time i am in Cali we will get to hang out longer.


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In my opinion i do not consider a reseller who pieces together a box of parts from someone else and adds a re flash from another company (and tries to gain fame from that companies name) a true tuner.

As you also stated in California i hope you get your little issues worked out as it works fine at WOT.

Completely false statements, on the hardware and tuning, etc.

I saw you at Autotalent before bimmerfest, with all the AA boys, I had a clutch issue that Zolti was looking at, remember? I think you got me mixed up with someone else on the WOT issue, that's one area that's always been just fine.
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so...when are you going HPF? haha
Haha, unfortunately the future looks bleak. I just might be stuck with this kit for a while.

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DJS, you're running 4.10 gears, right? That makes a huge difference in acceleration.

I'm more than willing to take the kit off your hands Jeff...
I think gears would make a big difference. You know the price of the kit, if you want it, it's yours. I'd give you my SS headers for an extremely cheap price too.

If the kit doesn't get picked up, I will probably go with gears next.
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Haha, unfortunately the future looks bleak. I just might be stuck with this kit for a while.



I think gears would make a big difference. You know the price of the kit, if you want it, it's yours. I'd give you my SS headers for an extremely cheap price too.

If the kit doesn't get picked up, I will probably go with gears next.
Jeff, they will not make the difference you're looking for, they are quite expensive too.
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Jeff, they will not make the difference you're looking for, they are quite expensive too.
Then why is there huge hype around gears?
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Then why is there huge hype around gears?
I think it's marginal because when I ran Fanatic7's VF Stage 2, it was about even, he's on stock gears. In one run I may have pulled a 1/4 of car on him.
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There's some confusion on your interpretaion of what I said/meant, maybe vice versa, we don't agree on some things, fair enough. I think we've rehased and gone off track here and you've added your sales pitch, lol.

This thread is about Jeff's dyno, regardless best of luck with the Gen V kit Jean, get it on a car out here in socal, I want to run it!
Dreeewww... Are you sure you would want to run me if i had a ASA Blower and a new clutch

BTW Drew's car is Retard..

Drew I told you, Never go full Retard.. LMAO!!!!
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In my opinion i do not consider a reseller who pieces together a box of parts from someone else and adds a re flash from another company (and tries to gain fame from that companies name) a true tuner.
And LOL at this statement. I noticed as I was installing my kit that a lot of the parts came from other cars.
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Dreeewww... Are you sure you would want to run me if i had a ASA Blower and a new clutch

BTW Drew's car is Retard..

Drew I told you, Never go full Retard.. LMAO!!!!
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