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Old 08-15-2008, 04:51 AM   #1
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M3 Sway Bars on Non-M

After much searching I've found that yes the front M3 sway bar will fit fine on a non-M and be a decent upgrade ...

but I can't find any info on the rear M Sway Bar .. I'm gonna guess it won't fit, but you never know till you ask

So if it won't fit, the next best non-aftermarket option is an e46 vert rear sway .. correct?

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Old 08-15-2008, 06:25 AM   #2
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NIIICE thanks for figure this out. I was about to start searching on the exact same thing!
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Old 08-15-2008, 07:08 AM   #3
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Old 08-15-2008, 08:48 AM   #4
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why not just buy an aftermarket kit, if you are going to spend money. not that expensive.
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Old 08-15-2008, 12:43 PM   #5
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why not just buy an aftermarket kit, if you are going to spend money. not that expensive.
Because I know of a parts car that I could probably get them dirt cheap off of

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Ok .. yes I read that whole thread .. and there is no mention of rear M3 sway bars on a non-m .. thanks for helping
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Old 08-15-2008, 12:58 PM   #6
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Ok .. yes I read that whole thread .. and there is no mention of rear M3 sway bars on a non-m .. thanks for helping
Geez, do I have to spell it out for you?

* No, the rear M3 bar won't fit
* Yes, the vert bar is the best OEM upgrade option
* A set of H&R bars is better than any compatible set of OEM bars
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Old 08-15-2008, 01:12 PM   #7
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^ werd. if its not a waste of ur money, its a waste of ur time, putting on an OEM bar. just roll with what you have
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Old 08-15-2008, 05:07 PM   #8
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Geez, do I have to spell it out for you?

* No, the rear M3 bar won't fit
* Yes, the vert bar is the best OEM upgrade option
* A set of H&R bars is better than any compatible set of OEM bars
Wow .. thanks ..

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Old 08-15-2008, 05:38 PM   #9
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If you read the thread, why the question?

And yes, you should be genuinely grateful for quality members like TxZHP04 that have made significant technical contributions here and do take the time to help out folks like yourself.
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The rear bar does not fit properly. I'd definitely recommend the TMS kit if you decide to upgrade though
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Old 08-15-2008, 06:49 PM   #11
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Old 08-15-2008, 07:20 PM   #13
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Night needs an attitude check. Wow.
I'm sorry but no ...

Members like him that give rude responses are uncalled for ...

I searched .. I read that entire thread he posted ...

No where in that thread did it say that M3 Rear Sway Bars won't fit .. there was no mention of them at all .. which is why I said I assumed they would not fit, and I just wanted some clarification .. a simple yes or no ...

Posting a link to a thread I've already read is not helpful .. since he already knew the answer he could have just said .. "No they don't fit" ...

I definitely appreciate the help I've received from members more knowledgeable than I .. but no reason for the attitude .. if it bothered him so much that I asked the question he could have just ignored me .. but rudness like that drives new members away from the site ...
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From the thread, post #72 -
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No but I have heard from others that the M3 front bar is compatible with a non-M car...unlike the rear M3 bar which won't fit.
http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showpos...0&postcount=72

Alternatively, there's the search function -
http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthr...r+sway+bar+fit
http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthr...r+sway+bar+fit
http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthr...r+sway+bar+fit
http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthr...r+sway+bar+fit
http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthr...r+sway+bar+fit
http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthr...r+sway+bar+fit

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I did search .. didn't find that though, and must have missed that one post in that 5 page thread ...

Glad you spent all that time to prove me wrong ... do you feel better now?
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For everyone that is curious why the non-M bar doesn't fit, it's because of the mounting tabs. The M rear swaybar is attached by 2 bolts (Similar to how the front swaybar is) to the rear subframe. The non-M uses 1 bolt and a slip tab.

It is possible to use an M rear swaybar on a non-M, but you will need to have the stock rear swaybar mounts cut, and have a steel plate welded on for the M bar to mount onto. For the trouble, you're better off picking up a complete front and rear swaybar kit from TMS or the like...
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I'm sorry but no ...

Members like him that give rude responses are uncalled for ...

I searched .. I read that entire thread he posted ...

No where in that thread did it say that M3 Rear Sway Bars won't fit .. there was no mention of them at all ..
which is why I said I assumed they would not fit, and I just wanted some clarification .. a simple yes or no ...

Posting a link to a thread I've already read is not helpful .. since he already knew the answer he could have just said .. "No they don't fit" ...

I definitely appreciate the help I've received from members more knowledgeable than I .. but no reason for the attitude .. if it bothered him so much that I asked the question he could have just ignored me .. but rudness like that drives new members away from the site ...
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I did search .. didn't find that though, and must have missed that one post in that 5 page thread ...

Glad you spent all that time to prove me wrong ... do you feel better now?
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So does an M3 rear sway bar fit on a non-M?

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Old 08-15-2008, 11:55 PM   #19
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Be nice.

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For everyone that is curious why the non-M bar doesn't fit, it's because of the mounting tabs. The M rear swaybar is attached by 2 bolts (Similar to how the front swaybar is) to the rear subframe. The non-M uses 1 bolt and a slip tab.

It is possible to use an M rear swaybar on a non-M, but you will need to have the stock rear swaybar mounts cut, and have a steel plate welded on for the M bar to mount onto. For the trouble, you're better off picking up a complete front and rear swaybar kit from TMS or the like...
Now there is a very nice, well informed anwser .. thank you pei .. you've always been a helpful guy

And yea .. at that point it's not worth it .. might as well go aftermarket ...
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id just go aftermarket that fits your car
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