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Old 09-02-2008, 12:57 PM   #1
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ouch...bye bye bmw v8s and I6 :(

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Old 09-02-2008, 01:01 PM   #2
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I don't doubt that this is a partially a response to the UK's tax law that's coming up on any car with an engine larger than 2.5l.

That said, they won't completely stop anything.
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Old 09-02-2008, 01:05 PM   #3
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Old 09-02-2008, 01:25 PM   #5
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If they can make just as much power and have better or the same fuel economy, I don't mind.
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Old 09-02-2008, 02:49 PM   #8
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the 6 cylinder engine has been a BMW signature since the beginning, I dont see the 6 cylinder going anywhere. But that said I never understood why they pulled the 4 cylinder from the US. With increased demand for more efficient vehicles, BMW already has an excellent line up of 4 cylinder engines including gas and diesel. A twin turbo 1 series 4 cylinder with 250+ hp and 40 MPG would be great.
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They pulled the 4-banger from US market because Americans did not want them, or believe they belonged on a premium car. Check any premium make, and finding a naturally aspirated 4-cylinder is impossible.

Only recently, with the high price of fuel in the US and Worldwide has the idea of a premium 4-banger in the US seems like a good idea. It's going to need a turbo, but it should work out well if prices remain high.

Also in Europe, they sell a lot of "stripped out" BMWs. Such no leather, tiny steel wheels, and NA 4-bangers.
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They pulled the 4-banger from US market because Americans did not want them, or believe they belonged on a premium car. Check any premium make, and finding a naturally aspirated 4-cylinder is impossible.

Only recently, with the high price of fuel in the US and Worldwide has the idea of a premium 4-banger in the US seems like a good idea. It's going to need a turbo, but it should work out well if prices remain high.

Also in Europe, they sell a lot of "stripped out" BMWs. Such no leather, tiny steel wheels, and NA 4-bangers.
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Only recently, with the high price of fuel in the US and Worldwide has the idea of a premium 4-banger in the US seems like a good idea. It's going to need a turbo, but it should work out well if prices remain high.
if i'm not mistaken, a 4-banger turbo that makes similar power to a 6 or 8 cylinder one will have similar fuel economy. the chemistry requires that in order to produce certain amount of power/torque, certain amount of air and fuel is required. a 4-banger turbo will have the main advantage of being ligher and maybe lesser expensive to produce. otherwise, in order to noticeably improve fuel economy using a 4-banger, you just have to produce noticeably less power/torque.
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a quad turbo 4 cylinder ?! what dumbass suggested that?

better sources of information >

but I'd love to see a single turbo 2.0-2.5l 4cylinder motor out of BMW or even a High rpm 2.0L motor would be awesome
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The TSX is a great car, but it barely qualifies. It's the Euro spec Honda Accord, and not quite up to the level of the BMW 3-series, Infiniti G, Benz C, Lexus IS or even ES, or Audi A4 turbo.

It's a notch below those entry-level luxury cars. The TL is the comparable class in the Acura linup and it has no 4-banger.

Honda should have installed the Turbo 4 from the RDX in the TSX, that would have been sweet.
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The TSX is a great car, but it barely qualifies. It's the Euro spec Honda Accord, and not quite up to the level of the BMW 3-series, Infiniti G, Benz C, Lexus IS or even ES, or Audi A4 turbo.

It's a notch below those entry-level luxury cars. The TL is the comparable class in the Acura linup and it has no 4-banger.

Honda should have installed the Turbo 4 from the RDX in the TSX, that would have been sweet.
I would buy a tsx if it had that engine!
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but I'd love to see a single turbo 2.0-2.5l 4cylinder motor out of BMW or even a High rpm 2.0L motor would be awesome
so basically you want to see bmw produce motors that will be competing with that of honda and mitsubishi??
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The TSX is a great car, but it barely qualifies. It's the Euro spec Honda Accord, and not quite up to the level of the BMW 3-series, Infiniti G, Benz C, Lexus IS or even ES, or Audi A4 turbo.
you probably haven't checked out the new tsx. the stock interior of the new tsx is more luxurious and filled with more amenties than your stock 3 series.

also, keep in mind that 2 years ago, bmw was still selling entry level 3 series with a 2.5L I6. sure an I6 may have more cylinders than the tsx's I4, but in terms of power and torque, a 2.5L I6 really isn't that much more powerful than a 2.4L I4. in fact, the tsx's I4 actually trumped the 325 in power when they both coexisted at 1 time.

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you probably haven't checked out the new tsx. the interior of the new tsx is more luxurious and filled with more amenties than your average 3 series.
By average, do you mean an E46?
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