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Old 11-29-2014, 01:42 PM   #1
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Snow question

Does the e46 323i series 1999 need snow chains, or is it made ready for snow?
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Old 11-29-2014, 01:57 PM   #2
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Does the e46 323i series 1999 need snow chains
Depends on ambient conditions.
Some places/times you dont need anything else but summer tires.
Some places you're better off with a husky-driven sled than an e46.

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or is it made ready for snow?
Very general question. Please elaborate.

I live in a frozen wasteland, and this year Im not even getting snow tires, because money.

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Old 11-29-2014, 02:20 PM   #3
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Thanks guys! I was just curious cause I just bought the beamer and I wanted to findout before buying any chains or tires. I stay in Washington so was just curious. Thanks guys!!!
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Old 11-29-2014, 02:24 PM   #4
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The E46 does pretty well in the snow, I would guess that Automatics are bit better than manual transmission when it comes to DSC??

But the thing that separates the men from the boys in the snow is TIRES.

If you have some ultra performance Summer tires, forget about it.

Have a decent All Season tire and you will be FAR better off.

My E46 has the Sports Package and came with Continental Ultra Performance tires. The were crap in the snow and also wore out very quickly. The car is not pushed to its limits, it is a daily driver, so the Continentals went away after about 20k miles and decent All Season Sport tires do a SUPERIOR job in the snow as compared to the Continental Ultra Performance tires.
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Old 11-29-2014, 05:04 PM   #5
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As jfoj said, it is all in the tires. My 330i is currently rubbish in the snow due to summer tires. With quality winter tires I have made it through blizzards that closed the highway in Indiana. I live in new Hampshire and go to school in Michigan so I'm exposed to some awful winter driving. With good shoes the e46 handles it like a champ. Also don't drive like an idiot. That helps too.
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Old 12-09-2014, 10:09 PM   #6
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I've been researching the same question, and all answers point to your tires. Here's what I learned:

Summer tires just won't work in cold weather. The main reason is temperature -- the rubber in your average summer tire starts to harden up under 40 degrees. Driving in colder weather can cause tires to crack, or at the least will be too hard to get any real traction on the road.

All weather and snow tires seem like good options, depending on (a) how much you drive in cold/snow/ice, (b) cash (c) space. I live in CA and will do *maybe* 4 drives a year in snow, so I'm looking at all weather options. (Snow tires have soft rubber, and will get worn down fast in normal conditions).

Another thing about CA: sometimes chains are not enough. Some road conditions will require chains regardless. There are a ton of options under $100 for chains and cables. I'm looking at cables (slim chains covered by a cable) that will fit my low profiles.

I used to live in WA. If you're along I-5 and just looking at crossing the passes around Seattle, I'd probably recommend something like all weather tires and chains. Anything to Rainier and I might bum a ride or rent a car for the weekend.
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Old 12-09-2014, 11:22 PM   #7
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Definitely not a car that is nade for snow, even with decent all season tires a rwd bmw is sketchy at best. But, if you haave to drive it in snow, the best all season tire ive found is the continental dws. The plus of these tires is that they're great in rain and dry roads as well.
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Old 12-10-2014, 12:02 AM   #8
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The best snow tires I've used are Hakkapaliitta. These are the best snow tires you can buy.
http://www.nokiantires.com/winter-ti...kkapeliitta-8/
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Old 12-10-2014, 12:08 AM   #9
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The best snow tires I've used are Hakkapaliitta. These are the best snow tires you can buy.
http://www.nokiantires.com/winter-ti...kkapeliitta-8/
Agreed, the Hakkapeliitta's are unreal, with an e46 and it's 50-50 weight distribution you shouldn't have too much trouble. Just don't drive with a lead foot.

Personally I have the Nokian WRG3's on my car for the winter and some goodyear's for the summer. In Vancouver it doesn't snow enough to justify getting a purely winter tire. But the all weather does very well in the rain (which is what is does 70% of the time) and a couple inches of snow. If theres any more than 5 inches of snow our cars just turn into plows anyways.

Use the DSC accordingly, sometimes it needs to be turned off to gain traction. And... Sometimes you just want to have some fun
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Old 12-10-2014, 12:31 AM   #10
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A lot depends on where you live - if it's Seattle WA. (OP said Washington). Leave it parked. Unless you are a snow driving genius, which I assume you aren't by your question, it won't be pretty. Hills and side streets that don't get plowed work for few vehicles.
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A lot depends on where you live - if it's Seattle WA. (OP said Washington). Leave it parked. Unless you are a snow driving genius, which I assume you aren't by your question, it won't be pretty. Hills and side streets that don't get plowed work for few vehicles.
Honestly man I don't think the E46 is that bad with some decent winter tires, or even "All Weather" in my case.

That last snowfall we had here in Vancouver a couple weeks ago brought about an inch and a half and a lot of ice and I did't have any issues. I think you guys got some of that snow as well.

In the end it all really comes down to the driver and the tires.
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Old 12-10-2014, 12:39 AM   #12
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I agree, snow is not the most ideal road surface. If you only have your e46 to trudge thru it, use some decent snow tires, otherwise keep it in the garage!
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Old 12-10-2014, 08:44 AM   #13
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With four high quality winter snow tires like the Blizzak WS80, these cars are great in the snow. I'd much rather be driving an E46 on four winter tires than a Honda Civic or Toyota Camry on all season tires.
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Old 12-10-2014, 10:33 AM   #14
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The Key for any Car PERIOD is SNOW TIRES! I also just recently purchased a 330i ZSP so Staggered wheels the PO already had the Conti Extreme contact tires on them. So far I have been able to get to Timberline and Mt Hood fairly easily. NO CHAINS. My Snow tires never get mounted till the end of Dec since that is the only time we really need them. That being said even on my Subaru I installed Snow tires. Remember it doesn't matter if you drive a GEO or a Bugatti there are only 4 things that contact the surface. Be sure you have the correct tool for the job.
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Old 12-10-2014, 03:57 PM   #15
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I would guess that Automatics are bit better than manual transmission when it comes to DSC??
Why? I have not read this anywhere before.
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But the thing that separates the men from the boys in the snow is TIRES
True. Even a lightweight RWD car like a Miata with no ABS/ASC/DSC can handle years of winter driving when shod with the proper set of tires.
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