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Old 09-29-2008, 08:57 AM   #21
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...of performance, not economy
meh, the 330d only gets like, what, 23 mpg in the city and 33 on the highway? the 335i gets 17city\26highway. with the price of diesel fuel, seems like the 335i would be just as, if not, more economical than the diesel, wouldn't it?
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Old 09-29-2008, 10:29 AM   #23
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I'm guessing diesel costs more in the states than gasoline, right?

Over here it's the same price as unleaded, but it used to be about 20% cheaper.
Although it costs the same (here), you can get a 30% better mileage out of a diesel than out of the same car with gas powered engine.



If you want to save some cash with daily driving, get a diesel (or convert your gas car to LPG). If you want a performance car, stick to gas.
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Old 09-29-2008, 10:36 AM   #24
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I'm guessing diesel costs more in the states than gasoline, right?

Over here it's the same price as unleaded, but it used to be about 20% cheaper.
Although it costs the same (here), you can get a 30% better mileage out of a diesel than out of the same car with gas powered engine.



If you want to save some cash with daily driving, get a diesel (or convert your gas car to LPG). If you want a performance car, stick to gas.
Yeah, Diesel is more expensive now, but couple months ago (almost a year) Diesel was 20-30% cheaper than Unleaded.

Don't think people expected Diesel to get more expensive than Unleaded.
I personally was like "WTF" when I first saw the sign of Diesel costing more than Unleaded.
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Old 09-29-2008, 11:09 AM   #25
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The funny thing is: Diesel is harder to produce than gasoline (oil needs to be refined at higher temperatures). So I was always wondering why diesel was cheaper than gasoline. Well, that's history now
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335d (DCT) thank you very much.

ANd yea Diesel is more expensive but it also way more efficient so you save money in the long run.
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You can't go wrong with over 400 LB ft. 335d please.
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You can't go wrong with over 400 LB ft. 335d please.
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I think it comes down to how many miles you drive a year. Someone did the math in one of the other sub-forums showing some approximate miles/year values and it seems like if you don't drive very much, the 335d will take many years for you to break even with a 335i. That was assuming the 335d would have a higher MSRP.

Also, isn't the US 335d only available in auto? That kills it for me.

Otherwise, I would loooove a 335d .......or even better, a 135d x2
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to bad the x35d's are automatics... When you chip them, you have to be very carefull with the automatic gearbox, because of the enormous torque the engine can produce.
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you mean like the audi?!?!?!?!?

I'd stick with the 335i b/c:

1. Diesel is too expensive
2. Whotf can work on a Diesel...much less a BMW Diesel
3. Sound of the motor
diesel is too expensive, but it requires less maintanence.

i actually thought about this.. i was thinking about going with diesel, but then i'm still 51/49 on 335i.
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Diesel doesn't come in manual so I wouldn't even consider it...but another thing to look at is that diesel engines tend to last longer than gasoline engines, however I doubt anyone here keeps their car for more then 5 years..
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to bad the x35d's are automatics... When you chip them, you have to be very carefull with the automatic gearbox, because of the enormous torque the engine can produce.
Its DCT, not auto.
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Its DCT, not auto.
DCT, auto, DSG, steptronic, etc. It doesn't matter what you call it, if there's not clutch pedal it's an automatic.
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DCT, auto, DSG, steptronic, etc. It doesn't matter what you call it, if there's not clutch pedal it's an automatic.


I get what your saying, I consider anything with two pedals auto as well. But this is actually more like SMG then Steptronic.
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Alpina D3 biturbo.

to bad the x35d's are automatics... When you chip them, you have to be very carefull with the automatic gearbox, because of the enormous torque the engine can produce.
Alpina D3 = 2.0L TT (same engine as the 123d=323d)
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I get what your saying, I consider anything with two pedals auto as well. But this is actually more like SMG then Steptronic.
He's probably thinking SMG is auto too
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Dude Diesels are made for daily commuting, not for the ultimate drive experience, never buy a diesel if you can afford petrol. If gas in Europe would cost as much as it does here, no one would buy diesel powered cars over there.

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I'm guessing diesel costs more in the states than gasoline, right?

Over here it's the same price as unleaded, but it used to be about 20% cheaper.
Although it costs the same (here), you can get a 30% better mileage out of a diesel than out of the same car with gas powered engine.



If you want to save some cash with daily driving, get a diesel (or convert your gas car to LPG). If you want a performance car, stick to gas.

I still think the 335d will cover all the bases when it comes to performance and economy. Can't wait to drive one.
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Its DCT, not auto.
no, as far as I know, I'm pretty sure it's an auto (unless they changed something now with the face-lift). In the car configurator on the Belgian BMW site, there is no DCT option availeble, unlike the 335i.
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