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Old 10-06-2008, 10:36 PM   #1
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19x10 rear for sedan

would 19x10 even work for a sedan? i have h&r race springs, and i plan on rolling my fenders, but i want to know if this would even fit? would i need a massive camber adjustment? reason im asking is i found a deal on some wheels and the rear is 19x10. thanks in advance for any help!
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Old 10-06-2008, 10:52 PM   #2
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depends on the rear offset, what is it? Most DPEs are 19x10 in the rear, roll the fenders, but depending on the offset you should be alright.
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Old 10-06-2008, 10:55 PM   #3
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thanks for the reply. right now i dont know the offset cause it wasnt stated in the sale but i understand that i cant get anywhere without the offset. but when i find out ill be bumping this thread for more advice. but in general, 19x10 SHOULD be okay?
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Old 10-06-2008, 11:03 PM   #4
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yes, 19x10 should be fine just make sure the offset is in the mid high 40s area, and for a sedan I would suggest stretching the rear tire, running a 245 or 255, which should also help alot.
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Old 10-06-2008, 11:06 PM   #5
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okay thanks, yea im still a little new to understanding tire sizes and offsets. but im trying to learn as much as possible before making a purchase
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Old 10-06-2008, 11:31 PM   #6
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Did you search?

I just did a thread on 18x10s on a sedan the other day. The differences and clearances aren't that much different. And a lot more input was given from guys that ran 10s in 19s and 18s on sedans.
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+ 1 on down size the rear tire..... u have to be carefull with 10's in the back.... its different from wheel to wheel
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my iforged didnt have the wheel sizing stamped. So I took out a measuring tape....flange to flange was 28cm ...or 11inches in the old money. This prolly means that the wheels is 10inches ...and as you can see in the pic...265 tyres are slightly stretched on these. Offset was measured at +42. If anyone tells you to get a mid to high 40 offset, dont believe them....the wheels will clear the fender but will rub on the inside. trust me on this. I had to get a panel beater modify my inner guards to push them in a little to clear the wheels. Now its all done and with a slight lip roll...i dont rub even with 3 rear passengers.

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my iforged didnt have the wheel sizing stamped. So I took out a measuring tape....flange to flange was 28cm ...or 11inches in the old money. This prolly means that the wheels is 10inches ...and as you can see in the pic...265 tyres are slightly stretched on these. Offset was measured at +42. If anyone tells you to get a mid to high 40 offset, dont believe them....the wheels will clear the fender but will rub on the inside. trust me on this. I had to get a panel beater modify my inner guards to push them in a little to clear the wheels. Now its all done and with a slight lip roll...i dont rub even with 3 rear passengers.

i dont think thats accurate. a 42 offset on a 10" rime ona sedan. naw, i don tthing thats accurate at all.
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that was my rough calculation.

Rim width from flange to flange was exactly 28cm...so mid point is lets say 14cm (140mm)

then holding another ruler set flat on the hub face forming a T with the other ruler, crossed at 98mm

so subtracting 140mm as the mid point with 98mm from the outer flange to hub face...i got 42mm?? might be me just getting the whole offset concept wrong

I do apologise if I used the wrong method of measuring offset...really didnt mean to bumsteer anyone in the wrong direction

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you see, my offset is 38, so that 42 you claim is only tucked under by another 4mm, 4mm, and my rim is 8.5" wide, and im rubbing with a 255/35 tire on none rolled fenders.
so for a 10" thats 1.5" wider than mine, thats .75" on each side., thats about 15mm that wheel stick out, so take away that 4mm, thats still a good 10mm, that wheel is out more than mine.
rolled fenders maybe good for another 8-10mm of clearance, but with a 265 tire. i dont see it not rubbing on a lowered sedan.

here's offset explained...
http://www.raceandroad.com/offset.asp
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That website shows exactly how I calculated my offsets. And sitting out at 10-12mm more than 8.5 ET38 is about right. Coz my previous wheels were 18 * 8.5 ET38....and they were about 1cm inwards from my present wheels. This is the pic of my car on 18 inches...as you can see, the rear is tucked in way more. I was running 235/35's then and tyres were flush with the rims...does ur 255 cause the tyres to bulge out a bit??? that may be the reason ur rubbing....or maybe ur car is slammed a lot lower?? i have a 1 finger gap between tyres and fender


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^ just to revisit an old thread since im getting ready to get some 18x10s, but i found that once i had my RTABs replaced, the rubbing stopped.
car sits on cupkit sport. et38 all around and still running 255/35s out back. I plan on keeping the 255s on the 10s when i get em.
the 10s im getting are ET45, buti have a pair of 5mm spacers just incase they rub the shock shaft, and i plan on rolling fenders too. I wanted to save them for the 18/8.5 ET40 fronts, but i may have to cop another set if these 10s rub out back.
i suspect they'll work fine tho.
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Bartender where are you?! The member BartenderPlease is running our 19x10 +38 VB3's in the rears which did require heavy modifications to fit. You may want to send him a PM.

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Yo! So to get mine to fit at my height (lower than you in the rear, looong) I did the following

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With all that done it still rubbed because my lowering springs have the same spring rate as factory, SOFT. In order to eliminate rubbing I did the Home Depot bump-stop mod.
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the guy i got em from had em on a E36, but i see small evidence of rubbing on the inner part of the rim. He did say tho that they didnt rub at all on the outside.
they have 255/35/18 RE050s B stones on em. so i Plan on rollin gthe fenders, but im wondering if i should throw some 5 or 3mm spacers on the back to bring it to ET40 or 42.
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spacers would make the offset lower, no?
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spacers would make the offset lower, no?
yes, and again, im worried about rubbing on the shock at this point, not the fender. Im gonna have to put em on tomorrow or monday and see ho they work out.
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would 19x10 even work for a sedan? i have h&r race springs, and i plan on rolling my fenders, but i want to know if this would even fit? would i need a massive camber adjustment? reason im asking is i found a deal on some wheels and the rear is 19x10. thanks in advance for any help!
How about a 19x10 custom offset flow formed wheel? That will work for sure!

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the guy i got em from had em on a E36, but i see small evidence of rubbing on the inner part of the rim. He did say tho that they didnt rub at all on the outside.
they have 255/35/18 RE050s B stones on em. so i Plan on rollin gthe fenders, but im wondering if i should throw some 5 or 3mm spacers on the back to bring it to ET40 or 42.
Rolling the fenders will not help the issue on the inside. You'll need a spacer to push them farther out to clear the inside. When pushing them farther out, you may rub on the outside so fender rolling will be required.

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