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Old 11-11-2008, 12:15 PM   #1
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eas | DICE SILVERLINE iPod Integration Kits available for BMW - USB Charge Support!

Gentlemen, this is what we've been waiting for. DICE SILVERLINE kits now support USB Charging now used on newer iPod/iPhone/Touch models.



Still the best iPod integration kit on the market for BMW. If you have a BMW and an iPod - you absolutely need this kit.

Connect your iPod to your vehicle's factory entertainment system and hear what your iPod should sound like in your BMW. CD-quality sound and controlled from your BMW's radio or steering wheel buttons without the need for messy adapters or FM transmitters. The DICE SILVERLINE iPod integration kit always keeps your iPod integrated, charged and ready to go. The DICE SILVERLINE iPod integration kit will also display text from your iPod onto your BMWs Radio/Navigation display allowing you to view Artist, Song Title and Album name while both hands are safe on the steering wheel.

The Trunk interface version of the DICE kit allows you to make the necessary connections at the CD Changer cables in the trunk area, and allows 15 feet of cable length to allow placement of your iPod anywhere in the vehicle you like.

The Radio interface version of the DICE kit is a favorite among professional installers. This kit allows a direct connection directly at the radio, eliminating a long cable from the CD changer connectors in the trunk. This also provide a shorter cable route, reducing the possibility of engine noise. The Radio interface kit is also choice for euro models that do not have CD Changer prewiring.

A clean factory looking installation is possible with our sleek iPod docking cable (included), allowing full connectivity for all iPods utilizing a dock connector - including the iPhone and iPod touch.

The DICE SILVERLINE iPod integration kit connects right to the cd changer connectors or radio connector (depending on configuration) already present in your BMW. The DICE SILVERLINE module transfers information between the iPod and radio through an included iPod-specific docking cable, as if it were an original BMW accessory.


Features of DICE SILVERLINE iPod Integration kit include:

- Direct integrated connection, without the need for FM transmiters or cassette adapters
- Full Text Display on your factory radio or Navigation screen
- Full control of your iPod via the radio buttons while in play
- Browse by Individual Song with song listing
- Browse by Individual Playlist with Playlist Directory listing
- Browse by Individual Albums with Album Directory Listing
- Source Selector w/ Integrated AUX input
- Album Selection
- Full charging mode for iPods through included dock connector
- USB Charging support for 6th Generation iPod, new nano and 3G iPhone/Touch

You can browse your iPod with the radio buttons without booting into separate modes. Using the integrated DIP switches allows you to revert from DICE and Simple UI mode, Allowing the iPod to remain in "iPod UI" allows for a basic operation of the iPod's Clickwheel and can be switched to Enhanced DICE mode at any time.

Browse through your iPod by Song, Artist or Album:

You now have the ability to browse through your iPod by Artist, Album or by Individual songs within a Playlists. Unlike other kits, you are permitted UNLIMITED PLaylists and to name them however you wish. Album and PLaylist directories are now supported with SILVERLINE.

Full Text Display on your Factory Radio or Navigation Display:

See your favorite song titles, album info and artist on your factory radio/navigation display with the SILVERLINE as if it were a factory BMW option.

AUX compatibility with user-adjustable Sound Output settings:

Connect any external audio device including: aftermarket satellite radio, CD/DVD players, non-Apple MP3 players and more! Bass, mid, treble and gain settings can be adjusted on the fly. These options allow for distortion-free audio input.

Selecting between audio from your iPod or AUX input is done with the press of a button on your radio.

- Volume Output (selectable 1-100)
- Bass (selectable 1-100)
- Midrange (selectable 1-100)
- Treble (selectable 1-100)

Charging Control w/ USB support:

Charging of your iPod while in play, never have a dead iPod again! Fully USB compatible with newer iPod models, including 3G iPhone and 2nd Generation touch.

Compatible with previous and current-model iPods:

The SILVERLINE is compatible with all iPods that feature a dock connector, including the new Classic, 3rd Generation nano, iPod touch and iPhone.

Models Supported:

1996-2006 3-series, including M3 (not for e9X models)*
1997-2003 5-series, including M5
1999-2001 7 series
2004-2008 X3
2000-2006 X5
1996-2002 Z3, including M-Roadster/Coupe
2003-2008 Z4, including M-Roadster/Coupe
2000-2003 Z8

Compatible with the following iPod models:

iPod 3rd Generation
iPod 4th Generation
iPod 5th Generation Video
iPod Color
iPod Photo
iPod mini
iPod 1st Generation nano
iPod 2nd Generation nano
iPod 3rd Generation nano
iPod Classic 80/160 GB
iPod Touch 1st generation
iPhone 2G

USB Charging iPod models:

iPod Classic 80/160/120 GB
iPod 4th Generation nano
iPod Touch 2nd Generation
iPhone 3G

Product Links:

e36 3 Series/M3

DICE - SILVERLINE iPod Integration Kit for 3 Series/M3 95-99 (Radio Interface)
http://www.europeanautosource.com/pr...oducts_id=1623

DICE - SILVERLINE iPod Integration Kit for 3 Series/M3 96-99 (Trunk Interface)
http://www.europeanautosource.com/pr...oducts_id=1623

e46 3 Series/M3

DICE - SILVERLINE iPod Integration Kit for 3 Series/M3 99-06 (Radio Interface)
http://www.europeanautosource.com/pr...oducts_id=1620

DICE - SILVERLINE iPod Integration Kit for 3 Series/M3 99-06 (Trunk Interface)
http://www.europeanautosource.com/pr...oducts_id=1621

e39 5 Series/M5

DICE - SILVERLINE iPod Integration Kit for 5 Series 97-03 (Radio Interface)
http://www.europeanautosource.com/pr...oducts_id=1624

DICE - SILVERLINE iPod Integration Kit for 5 Series/M5 97-03 (Trunk Interface)
http://www.europeanautosource.com/pr...oducts_id=1625

e38 7 Series

DICE - SILVERLINE iPod Integration Kit for 7 Series 99-01 (e38 Trunk Interface)
http://www.europeanautosource.com/pr...oducts_id=1626

e83 X3 SAV

DICE - SILVERLINE iPod Integration Kit for X3 04-08 (Radio Interface)
http://www.europeanautosource.com/pr...oducts_id=1629

DICE - SILVERLINE iPod Integration Kit for X3 04-08 (Trunk/Console Interface)
http://www.europeanautosource.com/pr...oducts_id=1628


e53 X5 SAV


DICE - SILVERLINE iPod Integration Kit for X5 00-06 (Radio Interface)

http://www.europeanautosource.com/pr...oducts_id=1630

DICE - SILVERLINE iPod Integration Kit for X5 00-06 (Trunk Interface)
http://www.europeanautosource.com/pr...oducts_id=1631

Z3 Roadster/Coupe, including MZ3

DICE - SILVERLINE iPod Integration Kit for Z3, M Coupe/Roadster 96-02 (Radio Interface)

http://www.europeanautosource.com/pr...oducts_id=1632

DICE - SILVERLINE iPod Integration Kit for Z3, M Coupe/Roadster 96-02 (Trunk Interface)
http://www.europeanautosource.com/pr...oducts_id=1633

Z4 Roadster/Coupe, including MZ4

DICE - SILVERLINE iPod Integration Kit for Z4, M Coupe/Roadster 03-08 (Radio Interface)
http://www.europeanautosource.com/pr...oducts_id=1634

DICE - SILVERLINE iPod Integration Kit for Z4, M Coupe/Roadster 03-08 (Trunk Interface)
http://www.europeanautosource.com/pr...oducts_id=1635

To those that have ordered since Nov 5th while we were away at SEMA - you were automatically upgraded to the USB supported kits.

Get your order in today!
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Old 11-11-2008, 12:15 PM   #2
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To existing owners with a DICE SILVERLINE kit, we will be offering a USB-compatible docking cable in late November. This will be signified by a green color coded connector, the newly-released kits have a blue connector.

Please note: the docking cables blue connector are not backwards compatible with the earlier SILVERLINE kits. Please wait for the correct cables to be released, which will be compatible with existing kits.

Keep posted to our website and this thread for details as they are released.
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Old 11-11-2008, 12:52 PM   #3
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So when in DICE mode, you cannot use the iPods click wheel to change songs, you must use the radio or steering wheel controls, correct?

And when you change the dip switch settings to allow for iPod UI, you are then allowed to use the iPods click wheel, but cannot control it through the radio/steering wheel?

Is that right?
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So when in DICE mode, you cannot use the iPods click wheel to change songs, you must use the radio or steering wheel controls, correct?
Correct.

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And when you change the dip switch settings to allow for iPod UI, you are then allowed to use the iPods click wheel, but cannot control it through the radio/steering wheel?

Is that right?
You will still get limited iPod control like previous/next track and ffd/rew. No text display or other enhanced DICE features though.
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Perfect timing! I was about to order one of these to use with my new 3G iPhone a couple weeks ago but decided to wait until after SEMA, which I'm glad I did! A couple questions though:

How does the Dice react to an incoming call? Does it just mute the music or does it have some kind of audible alert?

With the iPhone plugged in, are you able to unlock and use it like normal with the music still playing or does it limit what can be done?

Thanks in advance!
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Perfect timing! I was about to order one of these to use with my new 3G iPhone a couple weeks ago but decided to wait until after SEMA, which I'm glad I did! A couple questions though:

How does the Dice react to an incoming call? Does it just mute the music or does it have some kind of audible alert?

With the iPhone plugged in, are you able to unlock and use it like normal with the music still playing or does it limit what can be done?

Thanks in advance!
The audio will mute while a call is in progress, the phone call will be made through the phone (or iPhone) itself. When the call is completed - the audio will return to normal.
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I received my new model on Friday and installed it this weekend. I have a 2000 323i and a 3G iPhone; I purchased the radio interface kit and received the newer model with the updated iPod cable with USB charging. I'm happy to finally have access to my iPhone through my stereo, but it's not all sunshine and rainbows like I was expecting. Here are my thoughts:

1) Radio harness cabling is too short. This was a big problem. I was unable to mount the DICE interface where I wanted as the cable from the radio to the DICE was too short and the cable from the DICE to the iPhone was too short. I wanted to put the DICE box where it was easy to get too, either in the glove box or in the rear ashtray, and I wanted to the iPod cable by the e-brake. The length of the cable from the harness to the DICE limited me to ONLY installing the DICE under the shifter. The cable reaches no where else.

2) Not a DICE problem, but something to think about if buying the radio interface kit. The connector on the BMW harness is HUGE and there's practically no where to put it in the console. The harness from EAS installs between the existing harness and your radio. That leaves the bulky connector on the BMW harness in the way and there's really no where in the dash or center console that it will fit. I ended up pulling the harness very tight to the radio so I could store the existing harness under the front ashtray. AND it didn't quite fit so I had to use excessive force to put everything back together. I don't know if I will be able to get my head unit out again as the connector is EXTREMELY tight. If installing this, consider cutting away the part of the top of the head unit mount plastic so you can shove the harness between the H/U and the center vents.

3) No text display while in iPod control mode? What's the deal with that? I first setup the DICE with the radio controls, but I have way too many artists and songs to easily navigate the menus through the radio. So I opted to set the unit for iPod control which allows me to select songs through my iPhone. The forward/reverse buttons still work on the radio/steering wheel which is nice so I can skip songs without unlocking the phone, BUT there's no text display! With the DICE unit in iPod mode, all that displays on the HU is CD and track number. Why? If it can display the song title, artist name, etc. in the other mode, why can't it display it in iPod control mode?

All in all, I'm excited to have iPhone integration in my car and the DICE unit is working as expected. However, if I were considering doing this again, I would wait for a unit with a "hybrid" mode available that would allow both the radio controls and iPod controls to work simultaneously without changing dip switches. Being limited to these two control modes with no way to switch between makes this a sub par solution. It's nice to have my music in my car, but IMHO it's not worth the expense or the effort as is. Here's a thought: CD's 5 and 6 switch between AUX input and text display options. Why not select control modes through the same function?
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1) Radio harness cabling is too short. This was a big problem. I was unable to mount the DICE interface where I wanted as the cable from the radio to the DICE was too short and the cable from the DICE to the iPhone was too short. I wanted to put the DICE box where it was easy to get too, either in the glove box or in the rear ashtray, and I wanted to the iPod cable by the e-brake. The length of the cable from the harness to the DICE limited me to ONLY installing the DICE under the shifter. The cable reaches no where else.
The radio interface kit has sufficient length to reach the glovebox, not the rear ashtray. Since all control is performed via the radio and/or steering wheel - iPod placement is not really a concern.

If you should need a bit more cable length, we have extension cables on the site:

Extension cable for DICE iPod Dock connector (10 feet)
http://www.europeanautosource.com/pr...oducts_id=1139

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2) Not a DICE problem, but something to think about if buying the radio interface kit. The connector on the BMW harness is HUGE and there's practically no where to put it in the console. The harness from EAS installs between the existing harness and your radio. That leaves the bulky connector on the BMW harness in the way and there's really no where in the dash or center console that it will fit. I ended up pulling the harness very tight to the radio so I could store the existing harness under the front ashtray. AND it didn't quite fit so I had to use excessive force to put everything back together. I don't know if I will be able to get my head unit out again as the connector is EXTREMELY tight. If installing this, consider cutting away the part of the top of the head unit mount plastic so you can shove the harness between the H/U and the center vents.
The iPod can go in either the sunglass holder or the glovebox with no problems. As per the bulkhead connector - the connections should be made outside the radio carrier tray so everything can fit back together easily.

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3) No text display while in iPod control mode? What's the deal with that? I first setup the DICE with the radio controls, but I have way too many artists and songs to easily navigate the menus through the radio. So I opted to set the unit for iPod control which allows me to select songs through my iPhone. The forward/reverse buttons still work on the radio/steering wheel which is nice so I can skip songs without unlocking the phone, BUT there's no text display! With the DICE unit in iPod mode, all that displays on the HU is CD and track number. Why? If it can display the song title, artist name, etc. in the other mode, why can't it display it in iPod control mode?
This was possible with earlier iPods, not with the new models - Apple has changed the rules. Simple UI mode only allows previous/next track and fast forward/rewind. All other features are disabled in this mode.

Most people are using DICE UI mode.
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So we need to buy a new cable in order for the car to power and utilize the new iPhone 3G? I have the silverline kit that I bought when it was first released. When a song is not playing, should I hear static in the backround?
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So we need to buy a new cable in order for the car to power and utilize the new iPhone 3G? I have the silverline kit that I bought when it was first released. When a song is not playing, should I hear static in the backround?
Yes, you will need a new docking cable for iPods that utilize USB charging (current models).

As for your static, can you describe a bit further in detail?
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Yes, you will need a new docking cable for iPods that utilize USB charging (current models).

As for your static, can you describe a bit further in detail?
Well for one, I have to press any button on my radio twice, quickly, for any functionality. Such as pressing the CD button twice to switch from radio to CD player (Dice Kit in this case as you can't have CD player and dice kit).

The static is just ordinary static that is there when a song isn't playing, but the "CD" mode is in use, instead of it being silence.
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Well for one, I have to press any button on my radio twice, quickly, for any functionality. Such as pressing the CD button twice to switch from radio to CD player (Dice Kit in this case as you can't have CD player and dice kit).

The static is just ordinary static that is there when a song isn't playing, but the "CD" mode is in use, instead of it being silence.
pre 2002 radios have the double-press issue, it's a result of the radio, not the DICE. The "static" you are hearing - is it related to button presses?
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Thanks for all the orders that came in the last week! We've still got more kits ready to go, so keep them coming!
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do you have installation guide for this thing?!

and I currently have iphone 3g.
I understand I can answer the incoming call. However, would I be able to make a call while in DICE mode? I mean would I be able to use all the features of iphone while in use with DICE?
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Installation guide? No problem check this link out to see what you'll be doing during your install:


[TUTORIAL] - DICE iPod integration kit in e46 Coupe (glovebox)
http://www.europeanautosource.com/su...mod_id=2&id=35
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Installation guide? No problem check this link out to see what you'll be doing during your install:


[TUTORIAL] - DICE iPod integration kit in e46 Coupe (glovebox)
http://www.europeanautosource.com/su...mod_id=2&id=35

Thanks! It looks darn good!

Anyway.

Would I be albe to use all the applications and other stuff on my iphone 3g while in DICE mode? (while playing the ipod fuction in iphone?)
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Thanks! It looks darn good!

Anyway.

Would I be albe to use all the applications and other stuff on my iphone 3g while in DICE mode? (while playing the ipod fuction in iphone?)
Only the iPod features are locked out on the iPhone - everything else is still accessible.
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Yes, you will need a new docking cable for iPods that utilize USB charging (current models).

As for your static, can you describe a bit further in detail?
where can I get this new cable? I've been using the cablejive charge adapter for now
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where can I get this new cable? I've been using the cablejive charge adapter for now
We have them on the site for preorder:



DICE iPod Dock Connector Cable w/ USB Charging
http://www.europeanautosource.com/pr...roducts_id=232

New cables will be shipping in mid-Dec.
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