Motor Swap 323ci m52 to m54(330ci) 01 - Page 5

mujjuman · 06-30-2010, 04:27 AM

Nice. Didn't know they made those.

SweTurbo · 06-30-2010, 06:05 PM

So , does 323 software run the b30 ? I imagine you'd loose quite some hp due to different IGN/fuel curve.

I remember reading the MAF can adapt up to 30% in air flowrate change , which would explain why the b30 works with stock injectors (2,5+0,5/2,5= 20% increase)

mujjuman · 06-30-2010, 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pir4t

So , does 323 software run the b30 ? I imagine you'd loose quite some hp due to different IGN/fuel curve.

I remember reading the MAF can adapt up to 30% in air flowrate change , which would explain why the b30 works with stock injectors (2,5+0,5/2,5= 20% increase)

yeah my 330 is running on 325 software for now.
i'm trying to figure out if a shark injector for 330 would do the trick

SweTurbo · 06-30-2010, 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mujjuman

yeah my 330 is running on 325 software for now.
i'm trying to figure out if a shark injector for 330 would do the trick

What if you were to get a S/C , then you'd have the IGN/FUEL maps for a 330 with a S/C... problem fixed right ?

mujjuman · 06-30-2010, 07:34 PM

You are right, but I dont want to go SC... at least not yet. And probably not anytime in the foreseeable future (starting med school, then 4 years of schooling, then after graduation I plan on getting rid of this car)

E46 S54B32 · 06-30-2010, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by mujjuman

no... you are missing suspension components, rear differential, programming, gauges, seats... and maybe other things i missed.

i did a 330 swap, does that make my car a genuine 330? its someting else if you own a genuine m3 or a genuine 330, etc.

the correct way includes all of that

m3 engine
wire harness
ews
keys
dme
cluster
tranny
driveshaft
complete subframe
dsc module
fuel pump
radiator

^ is the correct way..so yes basically an m3...plus most aftermarket suspension is better than oem m3

mujjuman · 07-01-2010, 12:57 AM

You are right, that is the correct way. Personally I would just buy a E46 M3

madrv1 · 07-17-2010, 03:20 PM

i am in... just need my 323 engine to die so my wife wont see this as just an upgrade.

BMWEEZY · 02-05-2011, 09:00 AM

so can it be done? where is the clarification at? how much? Why is it so hard to find a write up? if some one could prove it and show facts and kits were available. these cars would value so much more if the swaps where here!

mujjuman · 02-05-2011, 10:15 AM

Nope sorry can't be done

Just kidding. Just read the thread bro

330ciandr6 · 02-05-2011, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by firefirefire90

you guys should just buy the adapter plate from turner motorsports so you can run the better 330i intake manifold while still utilizing the 323i throttle body and throttle linkage

this is true.

using the 323 intake you are losing hp.

mujjuman · 02-05-2011, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by 330ciandr6

this is true.

using the 323 intake you are losing hp.

yeahh thats what i figured but the DBCable to DBWire swap is tricky... no?

Syfon · 02-06-2011, 07:22 PM

Hi,

Any chance you could PM me some photos of the conversion?

I have a 323Ci, and would be looking at performing this swap in the future.

Was it a straight swap? Does the 3.0L motor bolt straight up to the 5speed manual gearbox in the 323Ci? So no electrical equiptment needed to be changed? (i.e. ecu etc.)

Cheers mate.

SweTurbo · 02-06-2011, 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Syfon

Hi,

Any chance you could PM me some photos of the conversion?

I have a 323Ci, and would be looking at performing this swap in the future.

Was it a straight swap? Does the 3.0L motor bolt straight up to the 5speed manual gearbox in the 323Ci? So no electrical equiptment needed to be changed? (i.e. ecu etc.)

Cheers mate.

Everything bolts up , just have your DME updated to the latest version or the camsensors will not work.
Or you could just use your old ones...

Iceman00 · 02-06-2011, 10:00 PM

You'll lose a good amount of power using a TU manifold vs a B30 one.

mujjuman · 02-06-2011, 11:44 PM

Bolts right up
Use Maf and injectors from 323 tho until you update your dme

Syfon · 02-07-2011, 01:44 AM

And then i guess if you do a 3" exhaust system with no cats, like i have on mine now, you will gain some power. Also do a CAI

DLag · 11-03-2011, 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mujjuman

yeah my 330 is running on 325 software for now.
i'm trying to figure out if a shark injector for 330 would do the trick

how about MAF, injectors, and Intake? I have a blown m54b25 and would like to swap in a m54b30.

thanks

mujjuman · 11-03-2011, 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DLag

how about MAF, injectors, and Intake? I have a blown m54b25 and would like to swap in a m54b30.

thanks

Just use the MAF and injectors from the 325 in the 330 engine.

Intake manifold stays the same.

I still didn't flash my ecu for the 330

Mman004 · 01-28-2012, 11:24 PM

This thread should be stickied

06-30-2010, 04:27 AM	#81
mujjuman Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: New York Posts: 3,339 My Ride: not an E46 View My Garage	Nice. Didn't know they made those. __________________ mujjuman 2003 325xi 5MT Jet Black, ZSP, ZPP, ZCW, OEM Xenon ^^RIP sig by Solidjake

06-30-2010, 07:34 PM	#85
mujjuman Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: New York Posts: 3,339 My Ride: not an E46 View My Garage	You are right, but I dont want to go SC... at least not yet. And probably not anytime in the foreseeable future (starting med school, then 4 years of schooling, then after graduation I plan on getting rid of this car) __________________ mujjuman 2003 325xi 5MT Jet Black, ZSP, ZPP, ZCW, OEM Xenon ^^RIP sig by Solidjake

07-01-2010, 12:57 AM	#87
mujjuman Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: New York Posts: 3,339 My Ride: not an E46 View My Garage	You are right, that is the correct way. Personally I would just buy a E46 M3 __________________ mujjuman 2003 325xi 5MT Jet Black, ZSP, ZPP, ZCW, OEM Xenon ^^RIP sig by Solidjake

07-17-2010, 03:20 PM	#88
madrv1 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 298 My Ride: 323ci 2000 View My Garage	i am in... just need my 323 engine to die so my wife wont see this as just an upgrade. __________________ UUC Shortshift w/ DSSR, UUC RK6A-L Shift Knob, Staggered 18" Breyton's Inspirations, Smoke Corners, 76" Dual Tip Remus Catback, Conforti CAI and Shark Software, H&R Sport Springs and Sway bars, and Bilstein Sports Shocks, 3.46 diff, UCC Pulleys.

02-05-2011, 10:15 AM	#90
mujjuman Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: New York Posts: 3,339 My Ride: not an E46 View My Garage	Nope sorry can't be done Just kidding. Just read the thread bro __________________ mujjuman 2003 325xi 5MT Jet Black, ZSP, ZPP, ZCW, OEM Xenon ^^RIP sig by Solidjake

06-30-2010, 06:05 PM	#82
SweTurbo Banned User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Europe Posts: 2,899 My Ride: 323i -98 View My Garage	So , does 323 software run the b30 ? I imagine you'd loose quite some hp due to different IGN/fuel curve. I remember reading the MAF can adapt up to 30% in air flowrate change , which would explain why the b30 works with stock injectors (2,5+0,5/2,5= 20% increase)

02-05-2011, 09:00 AM	#89
BMWEEZY Registered User Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Charleston SC Posts: 6 My Ride: 325ci View My Garage	so can it be done? where is the clarification at? how much? Why is it so hard to find a write up? if some one could prove it and show facts and kits were available. these cars would value so much more if the swaps where here!

02-06-2011, 07:22 PM	#93
Syfon Registered User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 216 My Ride: 2001 325Ci View My Garage	Hi, Any chance you could PM me some photos of the conversion? I have a 323Ci, and would be looking at performing this swap in the future. Was it a straight swap? Does the 3.0L motor bolt straight up to the 5speed manual gearbox in the 323Ci? So no electrical equiptment needed to be changed? (i.e. ecu etc.) Cheers mate.

02-06-2011, 10:00 PM	#95
Iceman00 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: FLA Posts: 2,736 My Ride: ghey View My Garage	You'll lose a good amount of power using a TU manifold vs a B30 one. __________________ The Official Dyno Thread Swap your Intake manifold for more power Why your intake probably sucks (in a bad way) My "build" and dynos

02-06-2011, 11:44 PM	#96
mujjuman Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: New York Posts: 3,339 My Ride: not an E46 View My Garage	Bolts right up Use Maf and injectors from 323 tho until you update your dme __________________ mujjuman 2003 325xi 5MT Jet Black, ZSP, ZPP, ZCW, OEM Xenon ^^RIP sig by Solidjake

02-07-2011, 01:44 AM	#97
Syfon Registered User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 216 My Ride: 2001 325Ci View My Garage	And then i guess if you do a 3" exhaust system with no cats, like i have on mine now, you will gain some power. Also do a CAI

01-28-2012, 11:24 PM	#100
Mman004 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Florida/DC Posts: 23 My Ride: 2000 E46 View My Garage	This thread should be stickied

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